THE KING Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 He already did in numerous ways.I dont think I can give anymore examples to be honest!...Racist immigration laws, segregated schools,nearly 2 million people blockaded with no self determination.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I dont think I can give anymore examples to be honest!...Racist immigration laws, segregated schools,nearly 2 million people blockaded with no self determination.... Probably because most of your examples aren't true. How about I give some real examples. There are Arab-Israeli supreme court justices who have power to veto decisions made by elected politicians. There are parties for the minorities. Minorities are allowed to vote and serve in the army. There are Arab-Israeli politicians in the Knesset who support Gaza and Hamas and want to see an end to the state of Israel. They have defended the people who started this conflict by murdering three teenagers and - unlike dissenters in Gaza - they haven't been murdered in the street. One of these politicans just happens to be an Arab women - how many of Arab female politicians are there in the entire Arab world? The government funds specific education for Arabs with Arab history and culture. Arabic is an official language of Israel and taught in schools to almost all students. The definition of apartheid - which you gave - is that one race is oppressing another. No race is being oppressed in Israel and, according to you, Jews are not a race - so how can they be racist oppressors? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) SodaStream considering relocating factory in West Bank to Israel due to BDS movement. 900 Palestinians could lose jobs. "Those who seek to help the Palestinians end up hurting us," said Nabil Bashrat, 40, a resident of Ramallah who worked at the factory. "(The factory) provides income to hundreds of families, entire villages. Peace is what happens here inside, and not outside. Those who are abroad don't understand the relations and actually sabotage the process. The factory draws us closer. Even in times of instability, as was during the war in Gaza, everything was as usual here." http://www.shalomlife.com/business/25438/op-ed-bds-victory-over-sodastream-may-equal-900-palestinians-out-of-work/?PageSpeed=noscript Edited August 27, 2014 by adam4267 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Netanyahu when he was a minister................ If there is a demographic problem, and there is, it is with the Israeli Arabs who will remain Israeli citizens," he said. The Declaration of Independence said Israel should be a Jewish and democratic state, but to ensure the Jewish character was not engulfed by demography, it was necessary to ensure a Jewish majority, he said. If Israel's Arabs become well integrated and reach 35-40 percent of the population, there will no longer be a Jewish state but a bi-national one, he said. If Arabs remain at 20 percent but relations are tense and violent, this will also harm the state's democratic fabric. "Therefore a policy is needed that will balance the two." ..............if thats not one race keeping another one down what is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Netanyahu when he was a minister................ If there is a demographic problem, and there is, it is with the Israeli Arabs who will remain Israeli citizens," he said. The Declaration of Independence said Israel should be a Jewish and democratic state, but to ensure the Jewish character was not engulfed by demography, it was necessary to ensure a Jewish majority, he said. If Israel's Arabs become well integrated and reach 35-40 percent of the population, there will no longer be a Jewish state but a bi-national one, he said. If Arabs remain at 20 percent but relations are tense and violent, this will also harm the state's democratic fabric. "Therefore a policy is needed that will balance the two." ..............if thats not one race keeping another one down what is? One race keeping another down is, according to the ICSPCA definition, " inhumane acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them:" Notice the use of the word - ACTS - not thoughts, not words, nor opinions. Acts. I agree that one interpretation of those comments is that apartheid legislation would be introduced against Arabs (which would obviously be blocked by the supreme court). There are others as well. But ultimately, there is no apartheid in Israel right now. Which is what you have claimed over and over again. It just doesn't exist. I agree that it could be a possibility, however unlikely, in future, but it just does not exist right now and there is no way to introduce it without completely dismantling the current apparatus of the state of Israel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I dont think I can give anymore examples to be honest!...Racist immigration laws, segregated schools,nearly 2 million people blockaded with no self determination.... No self determination? They voted in Hamas having no illusions what they stood for! Article 7 of the Hamas "mission statement" says (misquoting the Koran): "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." Or was that the Israelis that did that one as well? Has it never occured to you why there's 1 700 000 Palestinians - whoops, sorry, "Israeli Arabs" - 20% of Israel's population, chose to live in Israel, cheer Abna Sakhnin when they represented Israel in the UEFA Cup (or anyone that beats Beitar Jerusalem, as many Jewish Israelis also do!), etc. rather than be under the "freedom" of these medieval minded bigots? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock001 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 No because it's nonsense and irrelevant. The fact that there is only one possible way to win a war on terror is nonsense and irrelevant to Israels war on terror? You haven't really thought this one through, have you? Lets try a simple question: If a man kills 5 kids in an attack which spreads terror throughout a civillian population, what is the more important aspect of that incident for you? A) The numer and type of deaths. B) What the man was wearing at the time. It does seem you define how bad something is by whether it was done by someone in uniform or not. That can't really be true can it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The fact that there is only one possible way to win a war on terror is nonsense and irrelevant to Israels war on terror? You haven't really thought this one through, have you? Lets try a simple question: If a man kills 5 kids in an attack which spreads terror throughout a civillian population, what is the more important aspect of that incident for you? A) The numer and type of deaths. B) What the man was wearing at the time. It does seem you define how bad something is by whether it was done by someone in uniform or not. That can't really be true can it? What the f**k are you talking about? Do you have some medication you are forgetting to take? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 No self determination? They voted in Hamas having no illusions what they stood for! Article 7 of the Hamas "mission statement" says (misquoting the Koran): "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." Or was that the Israelis that did that one as well? Has it never occured to you why there's 1 700 000 Palestinians - whoops, sorry, "Israeli Arabs" - 20% of Israel's population, chose to live in Israel, cheer Abna Sakhnin when they represented Israel in the UEFA Cup (or anyone that beats Beitar Jerusalem, as many Jewish Israelis also do!), etc. rather than be under the "freedom" of these medieval minded bigots? Firstly ,you better look up what self determination means before posting again. Second, "Israeli Arabs" don't choose to live in Israel, rather than gaza,,,,they live in Israel because it's their country and that's where they're from?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Firstly ,you better look up what self determination means before posting again. Second, "Israeli Arabs" don't choose to live in Israel, rather than gaza,,,,they live in Israel because it's their country and that's where they're from?! Oh the irony... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 No self determination? They voted in Hamas having no illusions what they stood for! Article 7 of the Hamas "mission statement" says (misquoting the Koran): "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." Or was that the Israelis that did that one as well? Has it never occured to you why there's 1 700 000 Palestinians - whoops, sorry, "Israeli Arabs" - 20% of Israel's population, chose to live in Israel, cheer Abna Sakhnin when they represented Israel in the UEFA Cup (or anyone that beats Beitar Jerusalem, as many Jewish Israelis also do!), etc. rather than be under the "freedom" of these medieval minded bigots? Hamas mission statement?,,,,you been listening to Adam? Wiki. In 2010 Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal stated that the Charter is "a piece of history and no longer relevant, but cannot be changed for internal reasons."[6] Hamas have moved away from its charter since it decided to go for political office.[7] In 2009 interviews with the BBC, Tony Blair claimed that Hamas does not accept the existence of Israel and continues to pursue its objectives through terror and violence; Sir Jeremy Greenstock however argued that Hamas has not adopted its charter as part of its political program since it won the Palestinian legislative election, 2006.[8] Instead it has moved to a more secular stance.[7] In 2008, the Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, stated that Hamas would agree to accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, and to offer a long-term truce with Israel.[9] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Oh the irony... Do the people of Gaza have self determination then?...yes or no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hamas mission statement?,,,,you been listening to Adam? Wiki. In 2010 Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal stated that the Charter is "a piece of history and no longer relevant, but cannot be changed for internal reasons."[6] Hamas have moved away from its charter since it decided to go for political office.[7] In 2009 interviews with the BBC, Tony Blair claimed that Hamas does not accept the existence of Israel and continues to pursue its objectives through terror and violence; Sir Jeremy Greenstock however argued that Hamas has not adopted its charter as part of its political program since it won the Palestinian legislative election, 2006.[8] Instead it has moved to a more secular stance.[7] In 2008, the Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, stated that Hamas would agree to accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, and to offer a long-term truce with Israel.[9] ^^^ has a balanced view of the conflict and thinks Hamas are scum. "internal reasons" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Do the people of Gaza have self determination then?...yes or no. Is there apartheid in Israel?... yes or no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Is there apartheid in Israel?... yes or no.Yes you fukin moron how many time ,,,yes...Answer mine now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 ^^^ has a balanced view of the conflict and thinks Hamas are scum. "internal reasons" Your Hamas Charter also says there will be no peace talks with Israel ....hmm doesn't seem to true does it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Your Hamas Charter also says there will be no peace talks with Israel ....hmm doesn't seem to true does it? Is it not Hamas' Hamas Charter? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 43 UN peacekeepers detained by "armed group" in disputed Golan Heights, with 81 others trapped, UN says http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28972436 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Four men decapitated in Egypt by Islamist militants for allegedly giving information to Israel http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.612924 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock001 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 43 UN peacekeepers detained by "armed group" in disputed Golan Heights, with 81 others trapped, UN says http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28972436 Four men decapitated in Egypt by Islamist militants for allegedly giving information to Israel http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.612924 Did you have a point? The existence of muslim terrorists justfies Israel in killing as many kids as they want? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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