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16 minutes ago, virginton said:
Anyone who bought into 'NFT' jpegs and the like hasn't been scammed, they're just gullible idiots.
As 54 and counting said, crypto and NFTs was/is a dangerous market for people with a tendency to gamble. People seen the tales of someone buying an NFT for 1.5 ETH and 3 months later selling it for 300 ETH. No different from betting companies showing bet slips of winning accumulators to try and get the vulnerable/gullible to part with their cash.
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15 minutes ago, Detournement said:
The celebrities don't actually pay for them. They get them for nothing as part of a fee for promoting the NFT.
The biggest celebrity agency in the world, CAA, is a big investor in Open Sea so they get their clients to promote NFTs to lure in dumbasses.
Makes sense. Shame for the people who did genuinely spend their hard earned money on them. It always seems to be the way that the people who actually have the means to comfortably spend that kind of money, get it gifted to them, and the people who can just about it afford it get their fingers burnt. A lot of these celebrities who have pushed NFTs on to their fans over the last year or so must be having a moral dilemma with themselves round about now. Dread to think how many people have been scammed of their money in order to own these one off digital artworks, which are now trending close to worthless.
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14 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:
80k net would be in the top 2% of incomes in Scotland
Fair enough, probably can’t class that as working class. I do think there is many other factors that need to be taken into account over net salary. It’s a very subjective issue and probably not worth batting back and forth on here as everyone will view it slightly differently depending on their upbringing.
I remember a documentary John Prescott appeared on, in some northern English town. He had lunch with some teenagers that lived on a council estate and he was surprised to hear them say they labelled themselves as middle class, because they assumed the working class were the people with less money than them.
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4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Considine is 35, hasn't played 90 minutes since August, ruptured his ACL and broke down on his return. Giving him a 2yr deal is insane and where my issues lie with the deal, I could've understood a 1yr gamble.
I didn’t realise it was his ACL, that’s not a great injury to try to recover from at that age. Maybe not as good a signing as I thought then, although I do think his professionalism will be good for your squad.
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1 minute ago, 54_and_counting said:
Aye the bookie gamblers were the worst
"got 4 ton back on a treble tonight" till yoi find out they stuck 200 quid on an even money treble, then you ask to see their losing bets that week "ach ive only lost 20 quid here and there" lying c***s
Btw this is coming from me whos now 3 year clear of gambling cause i used to hedge my weekly losses against one big monthly win, great winning it but fucking bricking it later in the month when you had fucked it all away, and yes before anyone asks, ive lost over my gambling time, never money needed for bills, but aye ive lost a fair wedge
From the age of about 18 till about 25 I was exactly the same. Had a few big wins of a few grand at a time on accumulators, but didn’t bother telling anyone about the £200 I lost on an even money favourite at Lingfield, or the £400 lost on a 5/4 fav at Wolverhampton that was supposed to win my losses back. And before you know it you’ve spunked a months wage up the wall sitting watching At The Races on a Tuesday night.
I have the odd bet on the golf now which will be my biggest stake, but I put genuine research into my selections. It took me years to realise that by betting on an event that I had literally no idea about I was playing straight into the bookies hands. I put the odd bet on for the football but usually only 10 or 20 quid. Something I found that helped me stop betting so big, was to pick out my selections and put the stake in, and instead of placing the bet I would take a screenshot and see how many times I would have actually won. I can’t remember what my last count was but I would have been many thousands of pounds down if I had actually placed the bets.
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1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:
TBF that was mostly me on this thread trying to will it into existence before we signed the fat jobber.
I’m sure Goodwin mentioned him by name one transfer window, on a loan deal if I remember rightly.
How did he do for you in his last spell? He’s always struck me as the kind of player that does absolutely hee haw for 4 or 5 games before popping up with a moment of magic that has the brain donors on Sportscene saying how good a player he is, then going on to do nothing again for the next 4 or 5 games.
Might not be a popular opinion but I would have taken Considine at St Mirren. He’s a solid defender for this level and if he keeps himself fit I think he will do well at St Johnstone. He seems to have a good attitude towards the game and will set an example to younger players with regards to training and professionalism. Seen some St Johnstone fans on Twitter not happy with his signing but I don’t see any reason for that.
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1 hour ago, 54_and_counting said:
Theres the ones that will brag like f**k when they win, but never tell you their losses, can guarantee crypto is full of them
"my crypto went up 5% the other day, oh yeah im making money"
Without telling you that their crypto had dropped 40% leading up to the 5% rise
Boy I work with thought he was Warren Buffet around this time last year when crypto was booming, if you ask him what his portfolio looks like now he says ‘I took it all out, I’m just going to keep buying until it goes up again’. Sound advice imo.
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9 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said:
Cetainly not working class, if you think 500 is working class (13 quid an hour after deductions) what would you call the nhs staff that are on 12 quid an hour before tax?
Working class as well. Its an extremely broad spectrum, and £24,000 net pay per annum isn’t even in the same stratosphere as middle class in the UK. It depends on your definition of middle class tbh but I would say upwards of £80k net per annum, along with numerous other factors such as assets owned, savings, investments etc.
It’s a subjective issue as I know guys who grew up in housing schemes that now have 6 figure businesses and 2 or 3 properties, but I would still label them working class. I’ve always thought of middle class Britain to be one rung under the elite, wealthy enough that they don’t need to work to sustain their lifestyle, and working class the rest of the way down.
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3 hours ago, AW saint said:
I would be raging if we were making St Johnstone type signings. Wright and Consadine ffs
It seemed like we were linked with Drey Wright every window that Goodwin was here, and I never fancied him back then. Glad he’s went to St Johnstone, that’s got the hallmarks of a relegation signing.
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19 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said:
Absolutely no chance they are in the "working class" bracket, 33 grand a year is a little over 2 grand a month after tax and NI, take another 150 off for pension and its a flat 2 grand a month net wage, thats not working class ffs
On what planet is £500 a week not working class
I don’t think you know what working class is tbh. Are you going to claim it’s middle class to give us all a laugh?
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Daffue in the trees, asking the crowd to move back.
‘I’m coming right over you sir’.
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2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
What does a shopkeeper do when you steal from them? The pass evidence to the police and let them decide what to do with it.
If Barney Rubble wants to chance later being identified and prosecuted for committing what is already a criminal offence I'm not really sure what you want me to say to that tbh.
I would argue, however, that providing false details is clear evidence of a deliberate attempt to evade a fare - an offence which carries a higher penalty than a bog standard penalty fare.
Again, how much of a dick would you feel if you ended up with a criminal record for trying to avoid paying a few quid for the train, and then giving false details.
I’m sure Pitt Street police station will drop everything in order to try and find a guy who’s told a train conductor his name is Barney Rubble, with only a blurred CCTV image to go off, in order to issue a penalty notice. I get the feeling that you hold the crime of giving false details in the same bracket as attempted murder. It’s literally not worth the time or effort to even begin to try and positively identify someone who has given false details for a non-violent crime.
This might come as a shock to you but the crime of giving false details for skipping a train fare isn’t going to rank highly on the list of priorities for the police. I would hope that they have bigger fish to fry tbh.
On your last paragraph, I think the sort of people who regularly dodge train fares are also the exact kind of people who wouldn’t think twice about giving false details, especially to a train conductor who has no means to either confirm or deny that they are who they say they are.
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Can just imagine the admin staff in the procurator fiscals office after the fare dodging crack down starts.
‘I didn’t know there was a Sesame Street in Maryhill, and the guys name is Robert C Nesbitt’.
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Just now, Todd_is_God said:
I've answered all of those questions already tbf, as well as outlining how I believe the process should work.
But you’ve still came to the conclusion that a train conductor is in a better position to deal with that situation over a police officer? I think we will need to agree to disagree then.
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13 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
They already have that authority, though...
Penalty fares
5.—(1) Subject to regulations 6, 7 and 10, if a person fails to produce a platform ticket or a valid
travel ticket in accordance with regulation 4, a collector may charge that person a penalty fare.
(2) Where a collector charges a penalty fare to a person under paragraph (1), the collector must
provide that person with the following information in writing at the time the penalty fare is
charged—
(a) a statement that the person is being charged a penalty fare;
(b) an explanation of why the person is being charged a penalty fare;
(c) the identification number of the collector;
(d) the name of the operator on whose behalf the penalty fare is charged;
(e) the penalty fare number;
(f) the amount of the penalty fare;
(g) a statement that the person has the right to appeal against the penalty fare and an
explanation of how the person can appeal;
(h) a statement that the person must either pay, or appeal against, the penalty fare within 21
days beginning with the day following the day on which the penalty fare is charged;
(i) an explanation of how the penalty fare may be paid; and
(j) a statement that the person is entitled to a receipt if they pay the penalty fare.
(3) Where a person who is charged a penalty fare under paragraph (1) pays the penalty fareAgain, address that penalty fare to Barney Rubble, 123 Real Street. What is a train conductor going to be able to do when confronted with fraudulent details? Phone the Scotrail office and search them up on Facebook? Unworkable.
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2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
No there wouldn't. That idea is that the threat of being issued with a penalty fare if caught is enough to dissuade people from chancing it. By the time you board a train, if you've already bought your ticket, that no-one later inspects it makes no difference.
I've travelled on trains in Germany multiple times and seen a ticket inspector once. Not a chance i'd risk it, though, as they don't f**k about if they catch you.
All that is required is regular issuing and publicising of penalty fares.
Ok agreed. But in order to create that threat there would need to be a period of time where people were being issued with penalty fares. It would only work if someone who regularly skipped the fare had experience of either them, or someone they know being issued with a fine in order for them to change their ways.
So during this time of an initial clamp down on fare dodging, what process would you put in place in order that a) the penalty goes to the correct person: b) the person issuing the penalty has the authority to enforce it and c) the railway staff aren’t being put in a position that they haven’t received the correct training for. The sensible solution to those 3 questions is to have the BTP issue the fines, because they already tick every one of those boxes.
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20 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
What is special about Scotrail trains that renders something that happens across the world "completely unworkable" here?
You are very much coming across as someone who feels fare evasion is fair game, and feels that being penalised in any way for being caught doing so is a ridiculous concept.
I honestly don’t. I’m just trying to think one step beyond ‘give train conductors the authority to issue on the spot penalty notices’. Its never going to happen.
I wonder how the RMT would react to their members being put in a position of dealing with criminal offences without anything close to the proper training? The RMT petition their members for strike action if they don’t like the smell of a jobby in Central Station toilets. Good luck asking them to allow conductors to confront drunk and aggressive passengers to demand payment or be issued with fines. Fantasy land.
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1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:
@IrishBhoy what you repeatedly fail to acknowledge is that what you suggest doing is a genuine criminal offence, and being prosecuted for doing what you suggest would result in that person having a criminal record.
Of course it's impossible to catch everyone - but you only need a few prosecutions to begin to raise awareness of the penalty and, subsequently, reduce the instances of fare evasion.
That, afterall, is the entire point of having penalty fare deterrents in place.
I completely understand that point. It’s a sensible solution. If ScotGov introduced a policy where boarding a train without a valid ticket was an offence punishable by a monetary fine, then I am absolutely certain the amount of people dodging fares would fall dramatically. Absolutely no issue with any of that.
If that was the road that Scotrail/ScotGov went down to curtail fare dodging then there would need to be a minimum of one conductor on every service, trained to a higher standard than they are currently and with the authority to issue on the spot penalties. There would also need to be support from BTP to deal with the inevitable confrontations that would arise from people giving absolutely no respect towards a train conductor. I don’t think it’s something that will ever happen, because as I said earlier, it’s a price that the police and Scotrail staff are willing to pay to keep some sort of ‘peace’.
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4 minutes ago, 101 said:
Kevin Nesbit was the only person I saw fawning over them, proof Hibs were paying him far too much.
Kevin Nesbit must have been saving up his money since he was about 16, I don’t think any of them were acquired for less than $100,000 until a couple of days ago.
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4 minutes ago, Left Back said:
If they're handy enough they should get jobs as train conductors instead. Pay's better.
First sensible thing that’s been posted on here for a few pages.
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11 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
They do not need to be aggresive at all. An explanation that as they have boarded a train without a valid ticket for their journey they have committed an offense and are being issued with a penalty fare.
They then log their details and move on.
Ok. Back to fantasy land then. So the conductor, who has absolutely no access to any sort of database in order to identify the passenger, and no authority to demand ID from them, pulls out his penalty notice pad and starts to write it out.
‘What’s your name mate your getting a fine for no paying for the train?’
‘Oh right am I? My name is Albert Square and I stay above the Queen Vic in Walford’
‘Ok good sir that all seems above board please pay your fine’.
11 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:All the while their likeness is recorded on a body cam and can be sent to BTP if required later for identification of evaders / repeat offenders if necessar
Do you know how much resource would be required to have someone sitting watching body cam footage trying to match the face up to a name that may not even be on the police national computer? Absolute needle in a haystack stuff.
As I said earlier, in an ideal world all of your suggestions are fairly sensible. However, in the real world, where we currently live, they are completely unworkable.
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This forum seems to be full of screwballs who wouldn’t think twice about marching up to a group of drunken guys with their train conductors outfit on, turning each one upside down by the ankles until the correct fare falls out of their pockets.
If you have such an issue with the role of a train conductor then I’m sure Scotrail would be more than happy to have a couple of enforcers roaming the carriages, the passengers too scared to even glance in your direction for fear of getting booted up and down the train.
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2 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:
How is the situation any different to asking them to buy a ticket if they don't have one?
I think the point Todd is God is making is that the conductor should be more aggressive in demanding payment if the ticketless passenger tells them to go f**k themselves. By all means they should ask for a ticket, that is their job, but what means does a ticket conductor have at their disposal to then go on to demand payment on a moving train.
They could alert BTP that there is a ticketless passenger on board who is refusing to pay, and alert the driver that at the next station the BTP will board the train to deal with said passenger. That would be the correct way for the conductor to deal with that situation.
Im genuinely surprised that people think train conductors should be the ones dealing with that sort of situation. If a fight broke out in the middle of Asda would you want the girl at the checkout to start dishing out right hands? Or would they phone the police and alert them that an offence has been committed?
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13 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:
I was pointing out that your "for a train conductor's wage" point was a shite one.
I would be surprised if a train conductor takes home more than a British Transport Police officer btw.
You may be right, using wages as a threshold is not a great argument to make. However, I’m struggling to see your point that a train conductor, who has received no training in de-escalation tactics, has no authority to apprehend someone committing an offence, has no ability to confirm a persons identity, has no ability to call for extra assistance if the situation escalates etc etc… is in a better position to deal with a fare dodger than a police officer?
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Game of Thrones
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This video was recommended to me on YouTube the other day after not seeing anything about GoT for months. I watched it during a break at work and actually found myself angry at how badly written the last 2 seasons were, to the point where I genuinely think I would have been able to tie the show up in a better manner.
If you’ve not seen that video before I would recommend it. The guy does a good job in absolutely eviscerating D&D, and it’s an affront that they are still involved in high level production.
One of my biggest disappointments from the last 2 seasons was how little Arya was able to use her skills as a faceless man. She travelled across the narrow sea to get to the House of Black and White, spent months getting bullied by the Waif, nearly died after being stabbed in the stomach, became blind and had to fight to keep her life. All that torture and struggle and she never bothered to use a face to become someone else. I remember when I was waiting for season 8 to start thinking about all the people she could kill and then use their face to kill another character like she did with Walder Frey. Instead she came back from Braavos as some sort of Jackie Chan apprentice, flying so fast through the air that even the white walkers couldn’t catch her.
She never even got to kill everyone that was on her list, and I was certain it was going to be Arya that killed Cersei, possibly using the face of Jaime Lannister. Instead we got Jaime and Cersei killed by a few bricks. If anyone in the full series deserved an exciting and unexpected death it was Cersei. It’s verging on criminal how badly those last few episodes were written.