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All 2014-15 results have now been added to the database. The only results I am missing are from the North of Scotland U20 league (2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons). Defunct clubs are also listed at the bottom for reference (I've dug up their "expunged" results as well, as they've been wiped from most websites). I've also created a ranking of all the 144 teams in the "Lowland" Region (Lowland League, EoS, WoS, and SoS Leagues) who will take part in the South Region Challenge Cup this season. http://scotscores.theroonba.com/clubrank/clubrankesw.html

Thanks - do you know where I can access this or does anyone else have it and can look up what I am missing? I decided to go back to 2014-15 and am almost complete - missing just 12 scores: JUNIOR Tayside/North Inter-Regional Trophy (8 results missing - Rounds 1 and 2 of Tayside section) YOUTH Scottish FA Youth Cup (4 results missing) 31/08/14 Cove Rangers v Turriff United (Round 1) 03/10/14 Clyde v Dumbarton (Round 2) 05/10/14 Dundee United v Dundee (Round 2) 09/10/14 Hamilton Academical v Livingston (Round 2)

U-20 and reserve matches now added to give the data more depth. You can also check out how U-20 and reserve teams compare, as they now have their own ranking as well. I've set up a cup simulator based on the data from the rankings, and I'll run it over the next couple of days. Most are real cups - I've taken a bit of artistic licence with the formats/participants of some, resurrected a few, and made up a few. Let's see how it goes! Meanwhile, I've made the draws for the 57 cups, and they can be seen here: http://scotscores.theroonba.com/sim/index.html I'll add any more cups if anyone can think of any they'd like to see.

Thanks for the tips - will get on to that. The HTML for each page (as well as the ranking caluclation) is generated using a Python program I wrote - so I can just move the bits from that into the CSS file. Contrary to what that sounds like, I don't move with ease in these fields! I've just spent most of the day scouring the internet for all the results for the 2015-16 season - just completed - 4979 extra matches will be added to the database to make the data a bit more reliable. Had particular difficulty with all the South of Scotland cup competitions and the Inter-Regional North/Tayside Cup - but got there in the end. Now - to the CSS...

Great. Thanks for your help guys. I've now got all the senior/junior results for 2015-16 bar a few cup competitions which I still have to type in - will add them to the rankings/database. An extra year of data should give it a sturdier base.

This post suggest Stranraer scratched:

Thanks - that's the only match I'm missing now.

Update: Just 2 results missing now. 26/09/15 Mid Annandale v Upper Annandale (Haig Gordon Cup 1st Round) ??/??/16 Lochar Thistle v Stranraer Reserves (South Challenge Cup, 2nd Round) - Postponed on 23rd January 2016 - perhaps Stranraer withdrew? Lochar played 3rd Round on 2nd April 2016.

Update: 3 of the 6 competitions now complete - Tweedie Cup, SoS League Cup and Potts Cup.

Thanks! That's a great help. 20 results to find - should be able to get a few there.

Thanks - I've been trawling the web archive and Galloway Gazette - not intrinsically easy to search. Also Twitter and Facebook. There should be 83 cup results in total - I managed to find 63. This is what I am missing (dates and results). TWEEDIE CUP 1st Round 18/04/16 Crichton v Nithsdale LEAGUE CUP Semi-Final ??/??/16 Mid Annandale v Upper Annandale CREE LODGE CUP 1st Round Creetown v Upper Annandale Nithsdale v Mid Annandale Edusport v Wigtown Quarter-Final Fleet v Nithsdale HAIG GORDON CUP 1st Round Mid Annandale v Upper Annandale Quarter-Final Mid Annandale v Dumfries Semi-Final Mid Annandale v Wigtown POTTS CUP 1st Round Creetown v Fleet Mid Annandale v Lochar Quarter-Final 04/05/16 Crichton v Nithsdale SOUTHERN COUNTIES CHALLENGE CUP 1st Round Crichton v Mid Annandale 2nd Round onwards Most results missing

The SoSL website used to have season archives, but it seems everything has now been obliterated with their modern website. I was trying to put together the dates and results for the 2015-16 cup competitions, but am finding it almost impossible to get certain results. Does anybody know where these are available? Only 4 or 5 years ago, and already seems to have disappeared off the internet!

Done. All non-league clubs included (Tier 5 down).

You've convinced me - I'll add the "Juniors" to these teams who retain it. I think Gartcairn also (officially Gartcairn Football Academy Juniors). Port Glasgow is odd as it is "Port Glasgow Junior Football Club" (not Juniors) - so in that case seems more descriptive of what kind of football club they are (as you mentioned above). Lesmahagow is another "Junior" (singular). SJFA isn't much help - Pumpherston Juniors can also be added (though SJFA has just Pumpherston). AlSo "Dundee Downfield" and "Dundee East Craigie" - the clubs don't use "Dundee" in their name (although East Craigie have "Dundee East Craigie" as their FB page - probably just as there are lots of "Craigies" in Scotland - but their club badge doesn't include the word Dundee. Shettleston Juniors and Colony Park Juniors are 2 more - but "New Elgin Juniors" call themselves New Elgin FC everywhere except their club badge (Juniors). Bo'ness United and Bo'ness United Junior (singular) is also problematic. I've gone for "Juniors" just to distinguish between them. Syngenta is Syngenta Junior's (sic) on Twitter Newburgh says on its website "http://newburghfc.co.uk/our-history/" - At the start of the next season when registering with the SFA/SJFA the club changed the name and have always been formally recognised as Newburgh FC.", yet their website names them "Newburgh Juniors FC" (As does their club badge). # Meanwhile, Forfar Albion has merged with local amateur team Lowson United and is now known as Forfar United.

Yeah - I added last season's East Region South Superleague, which had not been picked up by the rankings calculator (I had left the league field blank in the spreadsheet, so it just ignored the whole season). For argument's sake, the last matches between Blackburn and Fauldhouse were within living memory for most of us on here: 24/04/2018 Blackburn United 1-0 Fauldhouse United 23/09/2017 Fauldhouse United 0-4 Blackburn United Don't know what all the fuss is about - Fauldhouse clearly worse

Aye - I'm forgetting the amateurs - that's the new rule. You have to be in a junior or senior league or you're no getting on the ranking. Haha! As for Glasgow Uni - maybe they will surprise us all - Certainly 3rd place (on PPG) in the Caledonian League is not to be sniffed at, as it's the 2nd best amateur league in the country - only 1 league defeat in their 10 games. Looking at some of the teams in their league, I think they might be able to beat the likes of Saltcoats and Lugar - maybe even Maybole and Muirkirk. Biggest mismatch is going to be Bonnyton Thistle in the WoS Premier. Unless they strengthen, they're in for a hiding in every match. As for juniors - the top 3 or 4 remaining Lothian Juniors would all have been challengers for promotion to the EoS Premier had they "jumped ship" this year. The Top 3 Tayside clubs would potentially be top half clubs in either the Highland League or the Lowland League. Certainly Lochee United, Carnoustie Panmure, Broughty Athletic and Banks o' Dee are the best 4 clubs outwith the senior setup currently.

Yes - the ranking is already live - it's up to date with the Premiership score so far this year. As for the amateur rabbit hole, Drumchapel United also - and there's also Loch Ness jumping from amateur to senior. Also in the North Caley, Scourie is essentially Kinlochbervie Amateurs. Edinburgh South and St. Cadoc's would take a major feat of engineering to get on to the rankings, as that would involve scouring youth team results and trying to find some "crossover" matches. By the way, Saint Cadoc's seem to be taking the "Youth Club" suffix with them, even though they are going senior.

Added the 2019-20 East Region Superleague South results now - makes a big difference to Livingston United - I was wondering why they were ranked so low before... For Glasgow University - I could try adding a season of Caledonian Amateur League results and see what affect that has on their ranking. Ideally, I'd be able to add all amateur results, but it's difficult to get all even for last season (even though most leagues have websites, they seem to wipe a lot of older results).

Cheers - I'll get all this updated. The East Superleague South does appear to be missing - although it's in my spreadsheet - so it's a bug somewhere in the program that I'll have to try and find. I've not put in Juniors as it's not always certain if it's "really" part of the name - Blairgowrie call themselves BJFC for example - but is the Juniors part of the name? Neilston seem to have dropped the Juniors recently and are now just Neilston. I imagine if any of these teams ever got promoted to the SPFL, they'd drop the "Juniors" moniker.

I agree - Glasgow University seem a bit too high - but their position is based only on very few matches. Ideally, I'd include all the amateur results as well and they'd be in a more realistic place - but I only have one pair of hands, and there's only so much typing into spreadsheets I can manage. As well as the individual league tabs, there's now 6 regional tabs, and each club is now hyperlinked, so you can see a complete list of their matches from the last 4 seasons. So it's now morphed into an at-a-glance guide to all the teams and their recent form. http://scotscores.theroonba.com/clubrank/clubrank.html

I've introduced a divisor depending on the tier of the competition played (in cup competitions, it's the tier of the highest ranked team that enters the competition). So if you thrash a lot of teams in Tier 7, you don't go too high. This seems to have addressed a few of the concerns mentioned above. 52. Irvine Meadow 64. Blantyre Victoria Auchinleck back down to 22. For the junior leagues, I've calculated them as Tier 6 for the top division (same for North Caledonian, though those in the East might be better thought of as Tier 8 in terms of their relationship to the pyramid now if they wanted to join.

St is short for Saint in all cases. Whether the clubs acknowledge this or not is up to them.

But this isn't a historical ranking - it's a ranking of current strength - teams from lower leagues can be stronger than ones from leagues above. What the team has done in the last 3 years is irrelevant - all that is relevant to their current strength is the last 9 or 10 matches. In saying that, if Blantyre are indeed too high, they will soon fall to a more realistic position once the league season starts. One thing I could try is to give more points for wins in higher leagues - but this would also mean teams would lose more points for losing in these leagues.

I've now added some tabs for each of the 21 leagues for 2020/21 so you can compare strengths within divisions. http://scotscores.theroonba.com/clubrank.html

I think the problem might be that inter-divisional matches in the West can be close as the big teams might not take it as seriously. So, for example, you can find 2nd division teams going far in the cup competitions. The system relies on "crossover" matches between divisions/associations, which happen only in cup competitions and play-offs. These are the "bridges" that link the separate bubbles of data. Or perhaps the top teams in the West 2nd tier this year were better than they were given credit for. Darvel in the last 8 of the SJC, for example (Irvine Meadow didn't reach that stage).