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Behave, Massone would still have fecked the club out of existance even if he got the stadium rent free, he had 1.5 M in other debt, you really think he'd have changed anything about the way he ran up debts and refused to pay anyone till they got the sherfif officers down to the stadium. We all know the council and Ged Nixon/the Trust had a plan together to get rid of Massone, it wasn't a very well kept secret.

Apart from him talking shit why would you be delighted? We're forced to keep players on full time wages as they're under contract, we could always rip up their contracts and not honour them saying we're in admin so they can go on the creditors list but then you'd be moaning at that too, christ we canny win with some folk, damned if we do the right thing and damned when we don't.

Closing this thread would be like shutting down the lottery, bound to be the biggest and most viewed thread on this site, you can't kill a cash cow.

Blackburn, Armadale, Whitburn, Broxburn, West Calder, East Calder, Mid Calder, Bathgate???

Can't see anything in your posts telling us anything, all i see is you trying to be smart with fishing trips.

Whatever floats your boat,mbozza. You certainly get plenty of response to your posts anyway.

I've never seen any evidence of it, only hear'say. The bond itself, 720K(or there abouts), few clubs in the 1st Div could put up that kind of money, but i really couldn't say if the Livi5 did or didn't put it up.

I've brought this up several times on the LL forum, going on what VT said on this thread several pages back, Livi would need at least 3,000 home gates plus decent sponsorship to afford FT players, it just doesn't make sense that we can be FT.

Exactly, they decide to do one thing then change their mind and relegate us down 2 Div, as i said, the rules are open to do as they please and that's why we had this balls up a couple of days before the season started and continued to date. The appeal is because of the demotion...correct, a points deduction was what they were going to hand us the week before, if you think the SFL handled this correctly then i'm at a loss, because this is one fuckup that could've been avoided if they had just told us we're being relegated to the 3rd at the first meeting, that would still have been a harsh decision but at least it would've been decisive from the start. The rules need to be set out clearly so everyone knows what punishment is going to be set, not a vague clusterfuck to be interpreted several different ways depending how the SFL feel, it covers their ass to hand out points deduction or relegation, or no punishment at all, how is that crystal clear!

Obviously you have a different view of it than McGruther and the Livi5 consortium then, the SFL's handling of this leaves a lot to be desired and hence the appeal, the rules are so vague they can be manipulated to whatever ends the SFL wanted them and that is where an independant panel should be our best chance, certainly better then the SFL one anyway. Our chances have always been slim, however at least this time it'll be a fair hearing and as such i'm hoping the Livi5 consortium will take whatever verdict they get and end it there. I just want to get on with the football, isn't just you other teams fans that is fed up with it all.

I doubt if Landi has been paid either.

I'd have thought the opposite, no agendas by the arbitrators so a fair hearing, it is an independant law lord who will preside over it. Hopefully they'll accept whatever way it goes and get on with it in whatever league we'll be in. It could be early next week that the appeal is heard, if so it'll give the players a slim chance to find another club if need be, not an easy task even if they had more time, Livi have sold our obv assets player wise, no guarantee that the ones still here will be sought after elsewhere.

I knew i had read something about Thurs and thought it was when the hearing was, but going by that it was the appeal being tendered.

Yeah but apart from that, what did the Romans ever do for us.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/sfl/...86908-21612963/

You're just wanting the 3 points for last week.

You leave big Armand's derriere out of this, i'm sure he has a gravitational pull the way he stumbles past 4 players and manages to still have the ball at his feet, didn't know it came from there though.

You're like a stuck record, i think we all know your views on Livi, it aint going to make any difference to Livi fans, we'll support our team whether you think we should or not, it isn't like a Livi fan is going to say, oh DF is right, we're a disgrace, i'm morally outraged at our antics, i'll go support Rangers/Celtic instead. Yes you are correct in everything you're saying about our conduct in not paying creditors, but what it comes down to is people support a team for various reasons, they do it for the enjoyment of watching football, going to games for the matchday experience, meeting friends, having a few jars etc etc. You being morally outraged isn't going to change that. I do hope we get through this and run the club at whatever level we need to break even financially.

Yip you assumed right....... ya b'stard. To PLL as well, i read it was Thurs, but i wouldn't put my life on it, sure i read it somewhere but canny remember where.

I dare say he was going on what Dundee's Brannan said last week,

You have a clear advantage though, easy to slag Livi off with so much ammunision at your disposal, EdinLivi is doing a sterling job standing up to all the playground bullies that gather on here to have a go whilst they massage their own ego's, oh how much they think of themselves in a superior, intellectual, moral, self righteous, if i were chocolate i'd eat myself way.

What a pisser for him.

If it annoys the fluck out of you then it gets my vote.

The latest statement on the OS says we'll run within our means, gone are the days of spending outwith them. It's all just words till we see it happening though and the line of posters on here waiting with baited breath on the new board falling on their faces will just have to wait, as will us Livi fans. They are entitled to have a pop at us right enough, as we aren't exactly a shining example of how to run a club properly, i just hope to christ we can this time, but will be waiting to see before i join in the pessimism.

Nope, where do you get that from? The board has stated that def wont happen and we will run the club within its means. However they will have to realise remaining FT isn't going to be an option, as going by VT post we'll need upwards of 2,600 home gates plus decent sponsorship. The boards not set out what will be Livi's plan for the season, we're still all over the place waiting on appeals, but i just can't see us being able to sustain a FT team in any Div on our current wage structure, a lot of work still needs to be done and i'm sure the board know that.