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1 hour ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
Thought Kettlewell came across very well in that presser. I still reckon there's a higher standard out there though but hopeful we're in somewhat-safe hands in the meantime.
Agree with this. Don't really know what I expected of him, don't really know much about him, but enjoyed listening to him there.
We'll see how the next games go but I'm happier that he's in place having heard him speak. Think having put up with Alexander's bullshit wtf-are-you-even-watching kind of answers for 18 months, any kind of honesty immediately endears me to a potential manager.
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4 minutes ago, bunglebonce said:
Kettlewell got offered that at Ross County when he was sacked as manager, but it’s always the time to move on.
Yeh, it’s a non starter. In an ideal world I wish we could rewind but parting ways is the only realistic way forward.
2 minutes ago, ropy said:I never called for his head but recognised that it wasn’t working, the ‘sacked in the morning’ made me sad.
Wasn’t there, was that our fans singing that? If so, those folk can GTF. We’ve done the right thing in parting ways but surely no-one wants this to end bitterly. Hammell will always be a legend from his time as a player.
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Now that it’s happened I’m fucking gutted. I loved Hammell as a player and wanted him to succeed so badly. This is obviously the right decision, if a bit late, but he’s a good guy and I’ve loads of time for him.
If we could find a way to keep him at the club in a similar role that he was in I’d probably be good with that but think that’d send out all the wrong messages and is probably a non-starter.
Taking on this job was just too early for him if management is something he still wants to pursue. A lower league gig with less pressure and less of a mess when he first took over should have been his first step but this opportunity came up and he gave it a go, fair play. But he should have recognised when it wasn’t working and probably walked himself but thats easier said than done. No one likes giving up, especially people who’ve made a living in a highly competitive environment like professional football.
Where to next? f**k knows. I dread to think the calibre of manager that would fancy taking over this shit show.
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14 minutes ago, eliphas said:
It's been nice though. That's nearly 2 days that I havent thought about Rickie Lamie
Get the zero ready for Saturday.....
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4 minutes ago, jagfox said:
I like that it has page numbers. Almost like they thought it wouldn't be taken seriously without good formatting.
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20 minutes ago, Neil86 said:
Johnson Blaney Casey Furlong
Butcher Danzaki Slattery
defence and midfield going forward, Bin Lamie, O'Donnell and Mcginn, almost a completely fresh slate in terms of players. Might see a return to confidence of Kelly as well
I definitely get the desire to bin and replace those, believe me.
However both Johnston and Furlong are young and relatively inexperienced, particularly in Furlong's case. We've also got a recent history of hanging our full backs out to dry with our style.
As much as it pains me, I'd persist with Lamie and play a 5-3-2 with Casey, Blaney and Lamie as the 3 CBs (NOTE: ACTUAL CBs TO PLAY THIS FORMATION). Then Johnston and Furlong as the wing backs. Doesn't leave them as exposed with the back three and lets them get forward which I think is probably both of their strengths, admittedly I've barely seen Furlong.
It's not great and it's certainly not what I'd like to put out, but nothing about this situation is good. I just see it as trying to cobble together a workable team until the end of the season and hopefully staying in the league.
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6 minutes ago, Casagolda said:
He knows he’s in trouble and basically looked like he was just trying to avoid a doing and sneak out with a 0-0 if he could. When it went tits up 2nd half, he basically just started chucking bodies on hoping for the best.
See, there's been several times during the season where we could have gone with a 5-3-2. I think we've absolutely had the personnel to do that.
Today was NOT that day. We had ONE fit available centre back, so we go for a back 5?!
Agree with pretty much everything said on the thread so far so won't repeat, the time for a change is now.
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36 minutes ago, Swello said:
I would agree but add the word "home" before "win". No-one can survive not winning at home when the vast majority of supporters only see you in that context. I've been to most away games this season, so I've at least seen a 5-0 win and some other decent results - most folk have had a fucking miserable time of it.
It's one of the worst things about all this - GA's first half of last season had one of the best home atmoshperes we've had for ages and that has utterly gone at this point due to what went on in 2022 up until now.
This is spot on. I don't really go to away games anymore, decided a season ticket was enough to be spending on watching football and since 1 Jan 2022, I've seen us win 2 league games....(unfortunately missed the 2-1 Hearts game as was away with work). So can absolutely echo those sentiments.
As you say, I'm sure that'll be the same for the majority of supporters and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have any kind of positivity towards the team as we almost literally never see them win.
At the start of Hammell's reign there was the Inverness game, Dundee Utd game and Hearts game which were like a breath of fresh air post Alexander. At the time it seemed like we'd probably be one of those teams who gets the odd pumping but also dishes them out and at the very least entertains. What's materialised is that we don't really get pumped, we just gradually get worn down slowly by losing games by the odd goal to horrific individual errors which has lead to a team utterly devoid of belief and there doesn't seem to be any direction to address the slide.
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7 minutes ago, Dosser1886 said:
Usual get some calmer perpective the next morning after the raw emotion of actually being at the game. But still lost as to what we were trying to do last night and where we go from here apart from sacking the coaching staff.
Yeh, I'm the same. Was trying to refrain from posting last night to sleep on it but that was the worst performance I can remember from a Motherwell team. Admittedly there's some recency bias in there but good grief that was awful.
Have just watched the highlights against my better judgement. The first goal is an absolute disgrace and it isn't the kind of individual errors we've been seeing all season. That's a fundamentally bad goal from a team perspective. Montgomery has a frightening amount of space on the left and time enough to take several touches before anyone gets out to him. His ball, given this space, isn't that good but of course we don't cut it out. Clark then has the time, unchallenged, to take some touches in the box and pick out a runner who, of course, isn't tracked.
The second goal is more of what we've been seeing all season. Centre back (yeh but not really, it's McGinn) loses the ball in a dreadful area, is hopelessly out of position, no-one covers across and it's an easy goal.
We've fallen so far in the last 12 months and it's going to end in relegation unless we do something more drastic and even then, given the personnel we have, I'm not sure that'll be enough. I try and be optimistic as a fan because defeatism gets you nowhere but realism is starting to kick in. We're not good enough, are poorly set up and don't have any fight or heart which is a recipe for relegation.
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I hate being defeatist but that half is severely testing that. I can’t remember a worse half of football from us against one of our close peers.
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5 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said:
Remember Sean Goss takes our corners.
All the more reason we need a lucky break.
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For all that we're a shitshow at the moment, County's equaliser seemingly was direct from a corner tonight. Feels like we haven't had a break like that in forever.
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Seems going by Twitter that Watt'll be going to St Mirren so can forget about that one if we ever really believed it was happening.
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4 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
I won't lie, I'm all for this.
Me too the more I think about it. Was all in on the hype when we on this thread got him signed, loved him while he was here, was peeved when he left for Utd, enjoyed him getting sent off against us, would take him back and forgive all. Tony +1 CM and I think I'd be pretty pleased with our Jan business.
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Surely won't happen with Watt. Last I saw he was being linked with clubs down south (Salford?) and Belgium. Would 100% take him back though, he was carrying a shite team before he left and if we could move Shields on as has been rumoured, he'd be a good replacement.
Having said that, a proper tackling midfield player is the priority. If missing out on Watt means we could offer a bit more for a potential midfielder, wouldn't even think twice about it.
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Pretty sure EK has a Glasgow postcode but is 100% still in South Lanarkshire.
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32 minutes ago, ropy said:
Did people think that County were due a penalty? It happened in front of me and my gut told me no offence.
For Penney’s shout he got a nudge and that put him off balance, not a penalty but Celtic would have got it.
Yeh agree with that, neither was a penalty. Penney's one was infuriating though as he was in a great position.
Same shite from us this week. Can pretty much write the script at this point. Our attacking players are not bad at all, in fact I think they're bordering on decent. But our defence will be what relegates us. They can look comfortable as anything for 85% of the game and then it seems they just completely space out and it has cost us so many goals this season.
Was a pretty grim watch of a game, very stop start, but will give the players a bit of benefit of the doubt on that one as the conditions were horrendous.
Signings looked decent enough for me, Crankshaw isn't Shields and Mandron posed a bit of a threat when he came on. Not convinced the McGinn in midfield experiment is the answer, particularly as I noticed a lot of County's threat when they had it came from our right back area. I know Maguire isn't brilliant on the ball, but could he not fill the role of just being a bit of a b*****d in there? Based on us not signing anyone else in that position ofc.
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20 minutes ago, Doctor Manhattan said:
Shields not starting, new faces, options on the bench... this probably only ends one way.
I can't for the life of me figure out what formation we're playing here. 5-4-1 with Spittal in CM maybe?
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26 minutes ago, Desp said:
I'll never, ever understand fans in the stand hurling abuse at players playing for their team, though. What are they actually hoping to achieve with it?
This. And the boos when a player other than the one they want is being subbed off can get in the bin as well. Pretty sure footballers know better than most when they're not playing well and I'm sure there are some characters that might get a "prove them wrong" kind of attitude but they are all human so to then hear a chorus of booing from those who are supposed to give them the most backing must kill confidence.
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Weird coincidence, was actually thinking about Woolery the other day and if he'd make a difference in this current team.
If he's had to apologise for not playing well, his confidence is potentially not very high and not sure returning to a baltic, rainy Scottish winter from Turkey for a relegation scrap would inspire that to improve.
That said, if we got a similar player back to the one that left I'd take him. At the very least he's a big strong lad who puts himself about which we're somewhat lacking atm.
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Absolutely embarrassing. That's the kind of thing a team of promising youngsters might do and be forgiven for because they lack a bit of experience but ffs, we've barely anyone in that category. McKinstry? Penney maybe? But O'Donnell, McGinn, Lamie? These are seasoned pros and that was a fucking carry on.
The second goal is almost forgivable, that was an unbelievable strike but the first goal enabled it and if we don't cut this kind of thing out we'll be in the Championship next season.
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I'd also put myself in the "mildly concerned but generally hopeful" camp atm.
We're worse off pointwise than we were under GA at this point last season but no-one will convince me that we're not a better football team. This point last season, we were winning games but the way we were winning them, it just felt like an inevitability that we'd start sliding miserably down the league when we stopped getting a few breaks. This season, I feel the total opposite, that if we could just get a few breaks, cut out some silly mistakes, we're more than capable of winning games and climbing the league table. It's frustrating at the moment and agree we need the break, both to get some players back fit and do some training ground work, but I'm certainly not at the point of despairing just yet.
I think we acquitted ourselves fairly well last night. First half was a bit passive but relatively solid and felt we put up a competitive showing in the second half. Meanwhile under GA, we took a fair few demoralising pumpings off the old firm and didn't look even close to solid despite that being the basis of how the entire team was set up. Was gobsmacked that the throw in didn't get pulled back for the second goal but seems Collum maybe didn't see it? KVV also has to score that in the opening minutes which gives us something to hold on to.
Also how did Josh Morris stay on the park? Was convinced VAR was going to turn that to a red, had a pretty spot on view from my seat and it looked a red all day long. Really hope we're not going to have to start him on Saturday given current injuries. He might have been decent player at one point but we've yet to see anything from him and he looks bereft of confidence.
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6 minutes ago, capt_oats said:
That's Alexander confirmed.
The attached tweet took a couple of seconds to load for me there and with an initial glance I nearly fell off my chair.
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3 minutes ago, Neil86 said:
Snodgrass set to sign for hearts.
Given how desperate Hearts for players, and good ones at that, they will be offering FAR more than we ever could, plus the lure of European football, no brainer for him really.
Can't say I'm really that surprised/disappointed with that. We've been waiting ages for a response indicating he wasn't exactly blown away with the idea of coming which seems to go against Hammell's chat about only wanting players that want to be here which he's reiterated on several occasions.
Similarly, our midfield has looked good in the last few games which, combined with our clear emphasis on making better use of the academy players, has brought me to the conclusion that we don't need Snodgrass and can save the money in case business is needed in January and/or our lecky bills.
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Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Who had us closing out for the victory when St Mirren scored? Was sure our arse would collapse but will absolutely take that. Agree that we looked pretty streetwise in that game, the time-wasting, the clever fouls, small things that have been absent. Thought the two young full backs were excellent and a very solid performance from the back three. We shitfested it a bit but who cares.
Also Obika is mince.