Mr Hahn
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That Maloney interview is pretty confusing. Although I suppose technically speaking Hibs did have enough chances to win the game (I counted 2?) I must have dosed off for the "more than enough" part. The only time I felt genuinely threatened was in the first minute when Nisbet went through. He maybe just took one touch too many and Carroll made a good block. The only other real chance I thought was for Doidge. Was a good bit of movement but did anyone really fancy him to score? Unless we're counting a Cadden cross that ran about 3m in front of all the attackers, not sure what I'm missing.
As others have said, that was a total nothing game of football. Conditions were shite, play was generally lacking quality so we'll take the point and forget about it.
For what it's worth, I thought we did slightly edge it and of the two teams I thought we were the more comfortable. Defensively we looked solid, even if the distribution at times was rotten (looking at you McGinley). Solholm again looked excellent for me and a decent shift from Carroll given he's not a CB.
Attacking-wise, we didn't offer a great deal though KVV should have scored. He was looking fed up in the second half and a bit surprised we didn't sub him for Woolery for the last wee bit to at least give a bit of chase across the top. Roberts was alright but Shields needs to bring a bit more. He has a bit of pace and looks like he should have a bit of strength but needs to get better at holding the ball if he's to take up the role that Watt used to hold.
I actually enjoyed the performance of our midfield last night but I may be in the minority on that. I'll hold my hands up and say I thought Goss was shite when he first appeared in the side but he's quickly become one of our better players this season for me. Maguire also put in a very decent shift. Donnelly's red is stupid, I agree with Alexander that I think a warning was probably right for that tackle, but if you're on a yellow, why even bother making it? It was in a nothing area of the park. Bring back Slattery please, not sure why's he's been dropped but he's easily one of our better players.
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When the English BBC contingent are forced to cover Scottish football:
Fucking Rodney!
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Wonder if we'll continue to see Scott Brown in a defensive role against us in the future, he doesn't seem to be coping too well.
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This wullnae dae:
The possession doesn’t bother me if we’re counter attacking but we’re clearly not.
0 shots in a half against a team we’re level on points with is an embarrassment.
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Slattery out and Goss remains?!
He better have a knock or Alexander has lost the plot.
Still on the 4-3-3 too….fab
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24 minutes ago, Phillips455 said:
Its very strange that overall we have a similar stats for this season so far. Of course Aberdeen have exited thier downward spiral and are recovering while we are experincing the opposite.
Have we seriously only got 2 clean sheets so far? Remind me why we're having to watch this eye bleeding, ultra defensive dross every week?!
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38 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:
Turnbull will look a world beater against the poorer teams in the league, surrounded by better players than the opposition, but very average in games against better quality teams.
Someone needs to go back to all those players in the Motherwell team from 18/19 and tell them they're vastly underselling themselves and that David Turnbull's goal every other game record was just because "he was surrounded by better players than the opposition".
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Tbh the solution to O'Donnell's form to me is giving him a bit of a break and I'm not sure him being involved in the international scene for these games is 1. merited or 2. good for him.
When we look at what O'Donnell is, he's pretty much made his career out of being a solid Premiership full back. Nothing massively special but someone you can usually depend on. Therefore I reckon a hard season where we had to battle pretty hard at times to stay up, followed by going straight into the international scene (which you'd have to imagine was a fairly intense summer for him both physically and mentally), before going straight back into the domestic scene again with probably not sufficient time to rest and take a bit of stock. It's not your average "solid Premiership player"'s schedule. Couple that with getting Covid as well, albeit we don't know quite how bad it affected him. That's a tough year (and a bit) for any player IMO.
However, as an international footballer and now club captain, I don't think fans are unreasonable in expecting a bit more from him. I agree that our current system doesn't help our full backs, fully on board with that but in some passages of play on Sunday, it's difficult to make excuses for him. That first yellow card was amateurish stuff.
To me he looks like a player that could have done with not going away with Scotland, being out of competitive football for a week, maybe even taken 2-3 days and just chilled with his family or whatever and then came back to it. I presume no-one's forcing him to make himself available for selection if he thinks he needs a rest but from the outside looking it, given his year, I think that's probably exactly what he could use.
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11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
I was never sure how to word it, as I know how it'll sound, but when looking at the league a few weeks back you guys stood out as ones whos underlying numbers were brutal but were being saved by scoring goals.
Sides like Aberdeen and even County were putting in numbers that suggested they'd start picking results up, while you lot have consistently sat just off the bottom throughout the season. Different ways to skin a cat etc., but shipping 60%+ possession + creating less chances every week isn't a formula that'll bring success over a season I don't think. Interesting it seems to be coming true.
This is difficult to argue with given what we've watched this season. We have a team who can barely string passes together and, as your post suggests, the last few weeks very much feel like the chickens coming home to roost.
When we were winning games, we certainly weren't outplaying teams and I'm not even convinced we were out-competing teams. We were just taking our chances when they came and that was the difference.
To me, we look like a championship side playing Premiership teams in the cup. Endeavor generally plentiful and defense will head/clear/block everything, but in general play they struggle when on the ball and don't spend much time keeping it. This willnae dae for the whole season.
I appreciate our midfielders are pish, but clearly only playing 3 of them isn't working. We're getting so badly dominated in that area of the park every week that the only solution I see is to put another body in there and try a different system. 4-3-3 is dandy when you've got three midfielders with good movement and interplay but we don't and I'm not really sure why we've persisted with 4-3-3 for so long, particularly as it was the same system that the previous manager played.
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9 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:58 minutes ago, superward said:Ooft, I thought he was awful. Couldn't disagree more. Effort enough sure but didn't win anything at all worth shouting about. Sometimes didn't even bother jumping. Couldn't really make anything stick and didn't create anything.
His stats back it up too - 2 shots (1 off target, 1 blocked), only 2 crosses, only 7 passes in total and lost more duels than he won. That's grim reading man. Compared to Watt it's night an day. Shields is even worse and that was clear as day without any stats.
Just shows you the different views on the game and players!Neither Woolery or Shields were great but, for me, this comes back to the issues in midfield. If they aren't creating anything or bringing the forwards into the game then it's very hard for them to impress.
I agree with this. I was actually fine with Shields performance, worked hard and made a reasonable attempt to feed off the scraps he got. In the end, there's only so much we can expect from our forwards if we're giving them the ball in crap locations with no space and to a part of their body that isn't their feet. Players that can make something happen in those situations at our level (e.g. KVV v Hibs) look like brilliant players and are the exception rather than the rule.
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Certainly feel like I'm into the post-covid era of football now. Canni just turn the stream off and do something else if bad things are happening, back to leaving the ground fuming and having the long car journey home in pishing rain to sulk about it
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Having slept on it and seen some of the major incidents back now, referees obviously have a difficult job and we should generally be sympathetic to that, they make mistakes which happens. I think what winds fans up is when a ref makes a decision where there's no possible way he can be sure. So using last night as an example:
- The St Mirren penalty, most of us seem to agree, isn't a penalty. To me it looks like a standard incident you'd see in a game where the ref just gives a hand gesture to say either "get back up" or crosses his arms to say "not enough". However, that to me is an understandable mistake. If seen in real time, I can see how the ref could give a penalty there.
- The opposite of that is the retake. We've all got freeze frames and slow replays and still can't be 100% sure Kelly left his line. To me it looks like he's on it (just) but appreciate I've got bias. But the point is, if we can't be sure, how on earth could they give that decision at the time? It's so close to the line, it's almost impossible for them to say that he's off it.
At such an important point in the game, I think that was a ludicrous call to make.
This is to take nothing away from St Mirren btw who I thought looked pretty good and fully merited at least a point and really should have had all three.
On us, that first half was boggin' stuff. Our midfield is horrendous and nothing was clicking. There seems a real lack of movement and interplay between them and I noticed last night, we lose the ball all the time from our own set pieces like throw ins and even free kicks. We seem to have such a rigidity in the midfield that we have no ability to move to keep the ball.
Where would we be this season without Tony Watt?! I'd give him and Kelly top marks for last night, Shields and Solholm can have pass marks.
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This seems like something it's safe to put out there when we've just won 3 games on the spin. Can imagine the look on the social media team's faces if they tried to put this out this time last year.
Needless to say on this thread but our badge is looking as beautiful as ever.
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7 minutes ago, capt_oats said:
Hang this in The Louvre (Down the back, but who cares? Still the Louvre)
If they could find a spot for this too I don't think it'd look out of place:
Edit: Noticed you'd already posted in the match thread @capt_oats. I'm a mile aff it on P&B these days.
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5 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said:
Yeah, I dropped a mate off in Hamilton and was back in Glasgow before they talked about anything other than Celtic.
I'm guessing very few people vote for players, particularly subs, so a few high votes for Goss can skew the averages. Crazy for him to be top-rated, in fact all of the scores are unrealistically low.Was saying the exact same thing when I got back. I couldn't quite believe how long they talked about Celtic. Found myself shouting at the radio "how can I have reached fucking Fife and you're still talking about Celtic?!"
Really enjoyed that game today. We didn't see much of the ball but I never felt like Aberdeen were going to score. We were so solid at the back and the front three worked very hard.
Declan Gallagher having his replacement score right in front of his face and Tony Watt sending Scott Brown back up the road fizzing is a good day's work for the Mighty.
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17 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
I'd be up for booing Tait. Not because I have anything massively against him but I get the feeling it would really annoy him.
Incidentally, saw Tait at the game yesterday and he stopped to talk to a few fans on his way in too, so the relationship between him and ourselves can't be that sour.
Like a few others have said, I did clap Murphy coming off, purely because others booed which I thought was pretty lousy. Had no-one booed, I wouldn't have bothered.
Having been based in the north east for the past 7 years, my attendance at games at Fir Park in recent years has been limited even before considering the obvious in 2020/2021. Being back nearer home and back to being a season ticket holder, that experience yesterday was absolutely brilliant. Sun shining, Fir Park looking magnificent, a good atmosphere and a cracking football match made for the best afternoon I've had for some time. Must have been the way the fans were spaced out too, but to me the stadium looked a lot fuller than the five-and-a-bit thousand announced and probably helped contribute to the atmosphere with supporters in every corner of the ground.
As others have pointed out, a pleasantly surprising performance from us given how the LC games panned out and Hibs being a tough opening fixture. The goals we conceded were poor, particularly the second. Maguire was in a poor position when Nisbet got the ball and my immediate thought was that Lamie was sleeping to let Doidge get the rebound. Other than that, I thought Maguire had one of his best games I've seen for us. Combative and decent on the ball. I would like if we could make Ojala + Mugabi work as well, didn't Mugabi play LCB with Gallagher?
Slattery and KVV are the obvious upgrades based on that performance. I don't want to go mental on KVV after just one game but some of his touches were sublime, took his goal well and rounded it off with an absolutely ludicrous challenge just in front of the dugouts. Worth the price of admission alone which is a totally different feeling from when we saw our previous no. 9/99 on the teamsheet who I think most 'Well fans got pretty fed up with last season.
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Is Maguire really our only option on set pieces?
Must admit, us not being 3-0 down with 40 odd minutes gone is just the pick me up my Wednesday needed.
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I love Motherwell.....but jesus fucking christ these last two games have tested it.
We've surely got to change this shape?! We literally can't get out. We've 3 forwards up there who might as well take a seat, they can't get into the game like this.
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Just now, Archie McSquackle said:
What the hell are Radio Scotland playing at? They've turned off OAM for the Hibs v Rangers game. Could they not have let the last 5 minutes play out?
Screaming the same thing at my PC! Shocking.
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There are some positives to take from that game. Kelly was superb in goals and thank f**k we've found a good goalie as we would certainly have been relegated if we had to persist with Chapman. Despite conceding a cheap goal, I actually thought we slightly shaded the first half, at the very least it was an even game. Smith looked an improvement on Jordan White based on his minutes in the 2nd half.
Polworth is getting a fair bit of stick and rightly so if he has said something to the ref to get sent off, but I'm not at the "get him out" stage that Twitter seems to have descended into. He's not been as good as last season but in my opinion he's been far from the worst. He still to me is a player that shows good touches on the ball and looks capable. A boot up the arse needed? Probably but there's still a very good player in there for me.
IMO we look like a team that just needs a bit of luck. Could have had a penalty in the first, we nearly scored when the ball "went out of play" where I'm not convinced it did and on another day Tony's shot doesn't bounce off the post straight into Lewis's arms. Once Polworth is off, it wasn't really going to happen and those are the kind of things that just aren't going for us at the moment.
Vital game against Ross County on Wednesday, but I'm glad we've got a game sooner rather than later.
All things considered, 1 point from the last two games playing against the runaway league winners and 3rd place team isn't a bad return, Wednesday's game is the kind of game where we need to start making things happen.
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2 hours ago, Honest_Man#1 said:
It’s a shame as the course is one of the best in the rota, and has undoubtedly been improved since Trump took over, but definitely the right decision. Hopefully he doesn’t last much longer and ownership is transferred to someone else to get it back on.
Agree, remember the women's Open being there a few years ago and it was brilliant.
Hopefully there is someone out there that could take the place off Trump but haven't heard any inclination to sell on the Trump Organisation's part unless I've missed something? The rebranding alone would cost a fortune, Trump's name is on everything bar what you'd want it on (the bog roll).
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13 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:
Did they say that though? I find that difficult to believe.
On the contrary, I've actually seen considerably more "Wright would have been my choice but... (insert supportive spiel about Alexander)" doing the rounds on Twitter. I haven't noticed any real negativity towards the Wright potentially getting the job.
This is certainly an appointment that turns a few heads. Let's hope these contacts down south come good for him and he can replace some of the shite cutting about our squad.
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16 minutes ago, capt_oats said:
He's manager at the start of the first season of Sunderland Til I Die, doesn't last long though.
He comes across as a good man who loves his football, however he doesn't know the league and am not convinced he's the personality that we need. Sunderland, although on a different scale for us, seemed to suffer from similar problems to us now. Some talented players but many of whom didn't want to be there and weren't giving their all for the club.
For me, our team just seems to need a major boot up the arse. I think we can all agree that at this point in time Lasley isn't the man. I don't know what Graeme Alexander is like personality-wise but I can't see him being the not-taking-any-nonsense type for lack of a better phrase.
Of those four, my choice would be Tommy Wright, knows the league and suspect his managerial style is what we need at the moment. This appointment is all about staying in the league which unfortunately for the most part means making the best of what we have at the moment. There's a lot of underperforming talent in our squad who don't seem to be giving it their all and Tommy Wright for me comes across as a guy who could rectify that.
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14 hours ago, peasy23 said:
I have my doubts that the designer of this jigsaw has ever been to the Old Course.
Unless this was the mock up for a Pete Dye redesign.
Spectacular response from the R&A to the Swilken Burn bursting its banks with those two bridges.
The tee shot off the 1st also appears to have gone from one of the easiest in world golf to one of the hardest.
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Motherwell FC v Celtic FC Sunday 6th Feb.
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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This, I didn’t think we were that bad and the timing of the first two goals really was a gut punch.
Clearly beaten by a way better team today. At times they just played through us with ease and have so much depth all over the park.
Van Veen looks like he’s chucked it for me. Thought Tierney and Efford looked far more threatening than him for the first 20 mins of the second half. Massive midweek game for us now, tangerine Tony getting off the mark for Utd against us would just about sum up our 2022 so far.