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Our predictions of what the next 48 hours of this exciting and fun-packed family story will hold:
I have really enjoyed your blog the last few days, keep up the good work.
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Kenny Dalglish in a secretive move to buy Rangers. I don't know what uppers Leggatt is putting in his absinthe these days but they're working just great.
That one came from pie and bovril originally, so we know leggo gets info from here. Was just a joke though and he ran with it.
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Leggo has gone nuts today,
After all, Jim Traynor and the Record have led the way so often during this complex Rangers story that there is no reason to doubt the veracity of this morning’s tale.
http://leggoland2.blogspot.co.uk/
If I had a quid for every time traynor has been wrong, id have at least £14.
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Say it panned out as you suggest. Instead of the Scottish football authorities fast-tracking 'NewCo Rangers' straight back into the SPL to keep Sky TV interested, maybe Sky TV would find it interesting to cover the adventures of NewCo Rangers on TV as they start life at the bottom of the pile and undoubtably rise quickly through the leagues. Think about it. NewCo Rangers, papped to the bottom of the pile, would be playing away in tiny venues with very low capacities. Teams in Divs 3, 2, and then 1 would benefit from sell-outs when NewCo Rangers came to town, and if Sky TV covered every NewCo Rangers away game live, it would allow NewCo Rangers fans who couldn't get tickets to these tiny away grounds to watch their team.
Sky might find this more attractive TV than run-of-the-mill SPL fodder. Maybe they could do a docu-soap to run along their live NewCo Rangers games, like 'The Osbournes'.... cameras following the supporters to far flung glamourous locales like Methil and Peterhead. Behind-the-scenes coverage... a whole world of possibilities.
If they put NewCo Rangers kits having Irn Bru patches sewn on the sleeves on live TV - I'd pay £15 to see it on pay-per-view no worries.
Not a bad prediction from the first few pages Poz
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Its quite funny that the fans are only getting a 30% reduction in season ticket money, they are being royally raped for the third division, they get a game less to start with, the cheapest ticket is still dearer than a lot of SPL clubs season tickets.
I know they talk of packing Ibrox out every week but It wouldnt surprise me if they are lucky to get 15,000 most weeks, especially at those prices.
They are also trying to hijack Amy McDonalds scotland song Pride, suggesting its about Rangers and not about Scotland despite it being quite public what its about, people see what they want to see.
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Well they can put however many stars on their shirt as they like. There is no shirt design protocol and no body that awards stars or anything like that.
The SFA are engaged in the negotiations to transfer the membership, they want the club to continue because they want to issue their sanctions. They can't give Sevco a new membership and expect to place sanctions on it.
Example. I buy your car from your estate because you got caught drink driving and topped yourself. I wouldn't have to take on the penalty points, ban or jail sentence just because I bought your car.
(In this case Ibrox and Murray Park are the Car)
If I was also to buy your corpse and re-animate it to be my chauffeur then that sums up where we are now.
Its simple really, technically the history dies with the club, but if they want to keep that history they are being afforded that opportunity by being punished, they can legally say that its not their problems, it was the previous company but it brings a raft of new problems if they do that, mainly not being able to transfer the membership.
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So the Club existed as something other than a company before 1899. Surely that bolsters the argument that a football club is not a company but rather an entity solely defined by the governing bodies, in this case the SFA.
Its like any other business - you can be a sole trader and then become a limited company - but when the company liquidates you dont get to go back to being a sole trader.
A club and a company are the same thing, whether it is a limited company or just a non limited company, its one and the same thing.
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Let's twist again, like we've been doing all summer:
Thats a fantastic bit of writing mate, spot on.
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They might see it as a way of having Davis in at the start of the season, in the grand scheme of things £800 k in the EPL is not that significant financially given the SKY money on offer.
Im pretty sure they would have just deducted it from a bigger signing on fee anyway, thats the main benefit in being free, instead of clubs getting the money you get a much better personal deal.
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Can I just say Im delighted that it looks like the transfer ban will let them sign players before the season starts with their number one target seeming to be Gary Teale, if we somehow got him off the wage bill it would be the biggest shocker of the season - please just dont let anyone know he would struggle in the third, let alone the spl.
I also saw this and thought of Sevco.
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If you want to get annoyed - have a listen to the Rangers Love In, sorry, the Daily Record podcast.
Cringeworthy stuff.
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Will be great having teams fighting to get relegated
Surely the money from the couple of games will be small pickings compared to the TV Deal. Its going to be at least 2m each season, combined with the added sponsorship from the league that will attract, its not impossible that we could be looking at the SFL in total reaching 5m or more.
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I really feel we could now be set for a fantastic few years that will re-shape and invigorate the game.
The TV deal is going to be worth millions for at least 3 years to the SFL, and if they play their cards right and insist on a 5 year deal, these leagues and teams will improve, facilties will improve, if SPL money reduces then we will have a tightening up from bottom to top seeing far more competition in the cups and leagues overall.
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Players pay taxes, not employers.
I wish I had found this out earlier, as an employer Ive stupidly been paying contributions each month to my staff, what an idiot I am!
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Found a good post on RM.
Whats been your own personal favourite moment?
Motherwell Born Billionaire arrives
Whyte being applauded into his seat by the blue order
Front loaded warchest
Out to Malmo in CL Qualifier
Out to Maribor in EL Qualifier
Out to Falkirk in League Cup
BBC Documentary on Whyte proves he's a shyster
h*** protest at BBC for saying he's a shyster
League's over comment from Jelavic
Losing a 12 point lead to Timmy before new year
Loving Cup with CW - "To the Queen"
Selling Jelavic for a fraction of his value
Signing Celik
Seeing Celik play football
Rangers file for Administration
HMRC forcing them into Administration
CW speech to a massively upset h** crowd of 34 people
Revelation of Non-Tax payments
"The Big Hoose Must Stay open"
Hurting h*** EVERYWHERE
Retiring number 12 for the fans
The appointment of Duff & Phelps
Realising you recognise that guy at D&P because he turned up with CW 6 months earlier
Attempting to sign Cousin while in administration
Celik effs off
Wylde effs off
The player's taking a wage cut
The initial Creditor’s list
Losing their place in Europe to Motherwell
The fake pledges from fake h** fans from their fake massive support
The RFFF choosing to pay Dunfermline but not Dundee Utd - well played
The RFFF having to pay for Weir's retirement gift
The RFFF paying to re-lay a pitch which might never be used
The clown
The Fighting Fund in general
The Blue Knights
The Bill Ng bid
The Bill Miller "Incubator"
Quantum
Brian Kennedy
Quantum
Paul Murray
Quantum
"Yank go home" from the hordes
The Chick v Jabba catfight
The transfer embargo
The transfer embargo upheld
"Who are these people?" from Fat Sally
The h*** threaten to burn down the Raith Rover's stands
Alex Thomson and his general hunskelping
Jelly and Ice Cream
The Grim Reaper banner
Lennon lifts the League trophy
The inception of the "Pacific Shelf Theory"
We Don't Do Walking Away
The "We Don't Do Walking Away" song
Charles Green enters the story
Red Card to Liquidation - good plan
Dave King tells them not to buy season books - good plan
Green says if CVA not agreed Rangers will lose their History
CVA not agreed
HMRC Skelp them into oblivion
The BBC Documentary Part 2
The porn star
Prince Albert of Monaco
Joanna Lumley
The EBT 53 revealed
Walter tries to buy assets an hour after they're sold
Walter Walks Away
The Hampden protest
Unable to use Rangers name for newco until oldco is liquidated
All Scottish Football Fans turn on the h*** for their arrogance
Turnbull Hutton
Turnbull Hutton (deserves to be in twice!)
Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SPL
Newco told to get to eff with their SPL application
The presentation to the SPL revealed
Offering to take the transfer ban at the same time as trying to sign Black
Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SFL1
Newco told to get to eff with their SFL1 application
Newco put into SFL3
Return of the number 12 shirt
Booted out by Subbuteo
Booted out by Fifa 13 (maybe!)
Bomber Brown's rant on the steps of Tesco
"Show us the title deeds"
Bomber Brown on the radio
"Show us the title deeds"
Bomber Brown on sky sports
"Show us the title deeds"
Bomber Brown meeting with the RFFF
Everything Gordon Smith has said past, present and future
Chris McLaughlin reveals Ally is not wearing a tie
Naisy and Whitty Walk Away
Everybody Walks Away
Broadfoot Stays
The hurting from Jabba
The hurting from Chick
The hurting from Hately
h*** enter the Ramsden Cup
Still no license to play football
h*** compared to Kit-Kats
The inevitable reply - "tommy burns dying was fun"
Lovely bunch.
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Apart from anything else, the Celtic boys club in question had nothing to do with Celtic.
A couple of glasgow guys just started a kids team and named it the Celtic boys club.
I wouldnt let facts get in the way of arguments, if you believe Rangers fans half of them who spout about this seem to think Jock Stein himself was doing the kiddy fiddling.
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Been having a good laugh at the punishment thread on RM.
"IF found guilty of dual contracts the punishment should be:- a warning not to do it again And the SPL should tighten up on their rule book, clearly stating the punishment if found guilty."
Well that certainly seems a fair one.
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If you are going to sell out and invite them in make sure you can sell the rights to 75 matches instead of 25
Good on the SFL, the SPLs offer to pay 1m for the rights was ridiculous, there is every reason to think the SFL could do extremely well out of Rangers going through the leagues, a 3 year deal before everyone realises how shite the 3rd division is to actually watch would surely see a deal of 3 or 4 million a year.
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Celtic didn't lose titles for abusing children
Words fail me!
Funny response from that a few down
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Don't compare us with selik.That shower of scum are not in our league. "
Yeah - they are 3 leagues above you
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Is it just me, or is this thread running out of steam now?
If Rangers were to vanish for a season, I don't think it would have as much impact as what has happened so far.
If they were to go off and play in another country, citing irreconcilable differences, that would be interesting, I suppose. Australia?
I wanted to see them punished, severely, but the whole thing's like a limp rag now if they quietly go off and play in the Third. We need some AGGRO. Hate figures. Couldn't even bring myself to despise Doncaster on the radio the other night. It would have been like kicking a puppy. Maybe I'm just soft.
Peaks and troughs, there is a few more things ahead which will see it swell again before it finally has its death throws and heads off to the promised land of P&B gold.
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Can somone please copy and paste this. Can't access it on my phone.
Its not even worth reading today mate, its ludicrous - he's just saying that the new company could be money laundering and terrorism in its wings, its absolutely ludicrous, even for leggo.
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I almost wish LOL@Celtic still posted here.
"Fizzy pop league -------------------------------------------> That way"
He will have reverted to his big team - Dumbarton, lording it over the diddies two leagues below them this season.
Should anyone ever start feeling a bit of sympathy for Rangers fans, just think back to this helmet and remember how bad they can be, even in the face of adversity - brings a warm glow to your heart
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Having had a wee read at Rangers Media this morning, it still seems that the general feeling among the support is that the SFA are out to get them and they have been treated appallingly.
For any of our friends from said site (or Follow Follow or wherever else you may be coming from) - so far you have had nothing but favours from the SFA yet have pretty much done everything in your power as a club to bite the hand that feeds you.
- Transfer ban instead of a suspension or expulsion - appealed - one bitten hand.
- Fasttracked into the third division instead of being made to apply like any other club would - second bitten hand.
You now have the choice - the fans say its the same club with the same name and the same history and the titles etc will count, but the cost of that is 3m and taking the punishment of the old club, which Id say is pretty fair really given the whack of debt that has been written off.
Green says that they are oldco when its convenient to the authorities, yet he will still be claiming the money owed from Everton for Jelavic to the newco so it works both ways, he wants to keep moneys owed to oldco but not pay out monies owed to oldco football creditors, id say its very much the opposite and Sevco and its fans are using oldco when its convenient, to save money, to be fast tracked into the leagues but just want to drop all that pesky football debt and punishments with the oldco.
Shit or get off the pot time - if its newco, thats great, pick a new name, scrap the history and start again, all is forgiven? No, theres nothing to forgive its a new company. If you want the history and the name, put your hand in your pocket, man up, take the punishment and get moving without the threats and nonsense that the SFA are having to put up with. Everyone knows the powers that be made a monumental cock up from the start but if these men who are in power remain, there has to be a line drawn in the sand where everyone stops beating them with a stick.
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Heres an old classic from Jim Traynor
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CRAIG Whyte plans to pump at least £25million into Rangers for new players over the first five years of his ownership if his bid to buy the club succeeds.
The 39-year-old Scots business tycoon is in talks with Rangers owner David Murray and although Whyte declared yesterday negotiations are at an "early stage" the Ibrox club could be in new hands before January.
And if Whyte pushes through his £32m bid for control after his due diligence period has been completed he plans to hand Rangers' manager a minimum of £5m at the start of each season. But there could be more millions available for players and wages depending on whether or not Rangers are generating cash from European competition.
These figures might not set pulses racing among Rangers fans but they would be a dramatic improvement on the stark financial realities facing the club right now as manager Walter Smith copes with a threadbare squad."
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Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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A bit puzzling with Kennedy coming back in - makes a mockery of the nonsense he spouted the last time about how he was only interested to save the club, he had no intention of making money out of it, put it on a secure footing.
Well, the future is secure now (apparently), so he is seen for what he really is, a guy wanting to make money off Rangers, I have no problem with anyone getting involved in football to make a bit of money if its available - but why lie with all the future stuff?