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Without don't knows that's 60.7% No 39.3% Yes. What were the figures for the last equivalent poll?

Fffffrrrrreeeeeeedddddooooommmmmm!!

When did Radical Independence make those figures up?

Not quite what I was saying - more the strategy of a perceived broad coalition controlled by an inner clique.

The Yes campaign reminds me of the old Broad Left groups you got in the past - they were nothing more than front organisations for the far left with a few gullible tubes to give them an air of respectibility or non-party alignment.

As they are the government that are asking the question, they run the independence campaign, they control the independence campaign - of course it's about the SNP.But then the NCC will try to paint it otherwise. Politicians are politicians.

Jesus wept.

Or somethingelse?

Selfie?After some mastubatory ego-stroking?

Wondered how long it would take the clown prince to try (and fail) to white knight the clown king.

Oh Chaka - you've used worse. Get over yourself. You and others being deliberately obtuse over a column that I (and others) have read for 30+ years. Clownism at its worst.

NCC in full clown mode.

Street of Shame is a column that appears every issue in Private Eye - there are always at least a few examples of rehashed stories.Or are you claiming said column doesn't exist?

I wish people would stop describing canvasses, online votes, caucuses or any other non-validated method as being a poll - they are not. Anyone with half a brain cell knows how easily they are manipulated or at best are just a platform for the most rabid supporter of a cause. Trying to use such votes to back a cause is self-delusion in the extreme. It's mastubatory ego-stroking at its worst.

Have to back you on this. HB is wrong. Also surprised he hasn't heard of Populus.

Canvass returns are meaningless. Trust me. Fine for targetting on the day to get voters out - nothing more.

Here's one little statistic that shows how much Yes have to do to win. At the last Scottish election much was made of the SNP's performance in NE Scotland - yet when you total all the votes up the SNP only achieved 52% of the vote in what is seen as their stronghold. Now I know that votes for the SNP (or other parties for that matter) may not translate in to Yes (or No) votes. It does, however, seem to me that the Yes campaign, despite the landslide for the SNP, have always had an uphill fight to turn things round in the 3 years since those elections. I still stand by my prediction of a No win - I have said by 57-43 (excluding spoilt papers including mine). Even if that were the result it would not be a disaster for Yes - either a platform to come back in future or to negotiate further powers if (more like when) the SNP win the next Scottish election. Whatever happens I think the status quo won't survive in its present form.

For hacked off Labour supporters. Nowhere else for them to go really.

Agreed. And also when the Trot Nats imploded the SNP was a natural place for many disilliusioned voters. My own mother voted for the SNP for that very reason - but she will be voting No in the referendum.

It looks like the SNP did not benefit from the protest vote as much as 2012 because UKIP took some of that vote.

Not really a good night for the SNP - same polling as last election but 7% down on what they were polling for this election.

Libby makes a better case for No than the party hacks running BT.

I'll need to bookmark that - we are actually in agreement for once.