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You can add in Confi's Nawbags and Bitters Together. In all fairness though he's had similar (unprintable) plays on his username in return.

Personally, I'd leave any gloating to the zoomers. If it's a Yes then I'd want it to be successful. If it's a No then I'd want folk to make sure that there was a united front on pushing for new powers - in my case I'd almost certainly back the SNP at the next Scottish Parliamnet election to do so.

No - he's a piss-poor flip-flopping wum.

Always called it Lorne sausage.

I have consistently said the same that it won't make a fundamental change swapping one set of chancers at Westminster for another set of chancers in Holyrood.

Has he decided which side he's supporting today?

I think the issue is that some people see the activity for Yes on social media and equate that with overall popularity. There will be a large section of the electorate for whom this referendum has largely passed them by so far - folk who don't go near social media or don't particularly have a deep-seated interest in any kind of politics.

I'm surprised we haven't had more polls since the second debate. Are there any due?

Some of these guys would bet on flies moving on shit.

I thought so too - free money?

My brother is using it as part of his own wee Yes campaign.Can't blame him. That being said it's clear the individual concerned does not care about politics but is a professional gambler. "The client is a middle aged gentleman who is not Scottish and does not have a vote in the referendum." If he thought Yes were going to win he'd probably bet on that outcome. For pro gamblers that sort of bet isn't actually unusual. Fred Done regularly takes £1 million bets during Cheltenham from the likes of JP McManus. It's an event with an outcome - the fact that it's the referendum is irrelevant to these sort of punters.

I think that was on the exchanges.

Which implies that the current best odds of 3/1 on a Yes should be higher.

I thought YouGov weren't polling folk on independence if they registered after November 2013?

Aye right.

The 10% who won't tell pollsters which way they are voting is interesting. In my experience most Yes voters tend be very forthcoming about their voting intentions in company - No voters a lot more reticent - is it the same with polling? If (and I do say if) that is the case then we are back to the 1980s when we had a lot of reticient voters who backed Thatcher. They would vote for her but would not in a million years let anyone know they had.

Any leaks? Of the polling organisations they usually lean most to Yes.

They're not. Chomp's voting No. I'm spoiling.

I call bullshit on that. There's no way you have 11 friends.

Any illegal subs? No doubt we'll get the "but the Premiership could have got £1.2 million - £110,000 or no millions for them and their fans walking away in droves - win-win.

I think that's a fair assessment.

They also have the highest number of DKs - something to do with how certain people are to vote.

Steven Moffatt wants shot for this abortion of a storyline.

By that definition several European countries are not nation states.

I know he's made a complete twat of himself with his dubiously-sourced definition - but do be honest the argument is like 2 bald men fighting over a comb. I think it's completely irrelevant in the context of the referendum debate.The whole nation, country, nation state argument goes round in circles because there's no agreed defintion. By HB's own dubious definition there are several European countries that would not pass the nation state test. For me the issue of self-determination goes beyond that - it's about a group of people deciding how they will pool their sovereignty. In some ways this referendum does provide some (but not complete) choice around the pooling of sovereignty.