FrugalNory
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This had likely been mentioned about 40 pages ago but I can't be arsed checking. Jim Traynor on Sportsound podcast = fud. Should hang his head in shame for coming out with such utter drivel about Rangers, probably to protect paper sales.
That whole radio show / Rangers appreciation group needs to get pulled from air. It's become nothing more than a propoganda machine for the succulant lamb brigade.
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http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=217851
I have never been one for an away game boycott but given the last 24 hours I for one will do the following1 - If we are in the SPL next season , I will not attend any away games. WHich is normally 6-7 a season.
2 - Will pay directly to the club , in some way yet to be determind , the savings I would have made.
3 - If it can be arrange I would rather stand outside away grounds and sing for the 90 minutes.
I WILL not be paying any money to money grabbers within the SPL who see fit to destroy the life blood of our club.
We are still the people and we will not be moved
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First order of business this morning? Load up this thread and post "GLORIOUS". I can now function today.
Is there anyway to get every single contributer to Ranjurs Mhedia knighted?
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Someone, calmly and logically, please tell me how the fcuk Rangers can possibly carry on without as much as a scratch.
Because "they are the people".
Do keep up.
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Just listening to the sportsound podcast. If the BK can't fund a one off 500k exclusivity how the feck do they propose to fund a million a month loss making entity?
And what the feck is the exclusivity fee? Is that like a deposit?
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Whyte was very much in charge. 83% of the shares plus no board meetings will do that for you.
Jeebus, the blinkers are still on then? That's quite a ridiculous claim to make. I would suggest Rangers accountants and finance division carried more responsibility / accountability than a "low level" pie or program vendor.
You suggest Craig Whyte operated in complete solitude and single handedly ran Rangers into administration for ten months. Whilt that might be possible in a small newsagent or chip shop, for an organisation the size of Rangers thats quite obviously nonsense.
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Chick Young is clearly comedy value.
"insolvency transfer event means admin, NOT liquidation".
Richard Gordon:
"um, ok. Actually Chick..."
Chick:
"Rapid Vienna can block the CVA"
Richard Gordon:
"Uh Huh. Actually Chick...."
Useless.
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I'm getting a tad confused. To recap, the options as I understand it are:
Exit admin via CVA, club and history intact. Unless a sheik buys them this would probably involve a fire sale including wage bill and maybe the stadium (like Leeds).
Liquidation. The club dies and another takes it place. New history, new entity. Needs to apply for league membership to sfl and / or spl.
Is this correct?
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I'm not going to argue with bearwithme. He has his own entrenched view of the situation and anything posted here won't change his mind.
Its actually a common theme. Rangers fans believe that the club was "manageable" before Whyte came in despite all of the facts confirming the exact opposite. Like I said before, if that was my club being run by a bank and relying on unguarenteed euro money to manage that much debt I'd see it differently.
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I enjoy bearwithme's reasoned and sensible posts. But some of the points he makes genuinly scare me. Most notably that before Whyte came in everything was more or less fine and under control.
I specifically remember that Lloyds were running the show (see Walter Smiths own mouth) and if it wasn't for a fortunate nearly goalless run to a european final the existing bank debt would have increased.
If my club was in that position, even without the BTC, I wouldn't be claiming that everything was "manageable". I would be holding my hands up and saying "we were humped.
The rot truly set in during the last big spending spree in 08ish but the club has been a financial basket case since Dick was spending £12 million on shite. Only a really blinkered individual would surely claim otherwise.
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The livi thread went on and on. In fact, I think it's still going on in the fizzy pop forum.
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This has been the most bizarre administration I've ever witnessed. I think we can safely now assume the wounded beast will now limp on until the seasons end. Originally I had high hopes that a suitable punishment would be coming Rangers way for their flagrent disregard of both the tax man and fair play. But now I'm 99% certain their going to waltz out of this without a scratch. Liquidation or not, Rangers will be just fine in the Self Preservation League next year in one form or another.
When that is finally confirmed, probably in the summer now, I'll have attended my last SPL match. I can't be arsed forking out over twenty odd quid a pop (minimum) for 90 minutes of Saints taking part in what is essentially a rigged competition. The course of time might change my mind but I suspect it's unlikely. I have better things to spend my money and time once the inevitable happens.
I wonder how many other fans feel the same way as I do?
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@pollymac
I'd be interested to heart the thoughts of supporters in the third and second. Speaking personally, I'd have zero interest in buying a season ticket for say Dumbarton if they were up against spl b teams. And my curiosity about watching the likes of Darren O Dea getting some match practice for Sellics big team would be fleeting at best.
At best I think its insulting to lower league fans, at worst I'd say its destroys any competitive integrity the lower divisions had. Although I'm with you on the pyramid side of things.
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Gutted to see that Rangers media aren't part of the blue knight rescue consortium. They could bring their out of the box thinking.
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B teams are a shite idea. Why would the lower reaches supporters turn up to watch our youth players have a kick about with their first team? Bloody sure I wouldn't. Spain can keep it.
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Friday my arse. I'd wager we're alll still sitting round this thread this time next week with no discernable developments.
Apart from Chick Young maybe losing the plot and going tonto with a sawn off shotgun in Asdas Bucky aisle.
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I doubt anyone would want to buy The Rangers FC plc... currently heavily indebted, and with a tax case cloud hanging over its head.
Someone may want to buy certain assets from The Rangers FC plc, e.g. assets which make-up core parts of a football club...
Like troglodyte fans?
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So the plc dissappears but the football club continues with new owners? Really?
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'Orange tap mate i would buy one for all my family let everycunt know that W.A.T.P and No Surrender.' linfield 1690
sounds lit ae r aw sound cvnts oer oan eh rainjurz boardsThat'll be on the social fund loan application. "Buying Orange taps fir the family to save the Raingers. Aye but."
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Out of interest what is the penalty for illegaly registered players? Can we actually all claim the trophies that the bigots illegaly won? I'll be doing this from a moral standpoint anyway, just wondering the official SFA ruling on the matter.
I'm claiming the 98 league cup. I realise this is before the financial cheating began but I'm no giving a f*ck.
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Of course they are, I'm not trying to undermine your reasons for supporting your club at all, whatever those reasons may be. But you're wrong to say that there's no difference between supporting an Old Firm side and supporting a non-Old Firm side.
You'll never know what it feels like to watch your team get scudded 4/5/6/ nil, and then the following week be faced with a 3 hour drive to Aberdeen, knowing that there's a fair chance your going to get humped again (not recently mind you
) and have to drive those 3 hours back knowing that even if you had won, it wouldn't matter because you're never going to win the league anyway. You may wonder why anyone would do that, you may think you'd have to be wrong in the head to get any kind of enjoyment from it. But the fact of the matter is that the feeling you have when you get to Hampden, or get any bit of relative success doesn't come from the thought of winning...it comes from the emotional journey you've had to go through over the years to get there. If you haven't made that journey...and as an Old Firm fan you won't...you'll never get to the level of sheer joy and excitement of those of us who have. And that's the bond that exists between fans of all other clubs...that's why we stick together when it comes to things like this, because we've all travelled that journey in one way or another.We might get into the Champions League next year. In fact it's looking increasingly likely with each passing day. And if we do, the feelings and emotions won't come from hoping to do well in it, or even being in it. They will come from sitting in my seat, watching the teams come out and remembering standing on the away terracing an Boghead as we scrape a draw against a team at the bottom of the 3rd, and not being surprised by it. Remembering what seemed like our annual pumping out the cup by Ayr United. Thinking of watching guys play for us who you were sure should be behind your mum in the pecking order for getting a game. All the while....the Champions League music plays over the tannoy. The feelings don't come from being in the champions league, they come from the journey you've travelled on the way there, and the acknowledgement and acceptance that you'll be travelling back along the same road in the other direction before you know it.
It doesn't matter whether you're Rangers, or Celtic. Current club, or new incarnation. You'll never know what things like that feel like, and that's the difference. That's why we all band together, and why we will always see you both as one. Because you're the only ones that just don't get it.
Have a green dot sir. Quality post.
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I wish I could shake you all by the hand. Every other scottish football forum is sympathetic to those glory hunting, cheating bawbags.
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Smashing work everyone, this thread is the finest entertainment on any internet board on the planet.
BTW - Are they away yet?
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I'm a little concerned by this decision. After years in the first Division by living within our means and watching the likes of Livy, Killie and Gretna play SPL football I'm very disappointed and a little perplexed. Is it now ok to twice run up masses of debt (that you have no intention of paying) to buy league titles and cup final appearances? There has to be a compulsary relegation, at least one division FFS. Poor, very poor decision by the SFL.
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Getting a one off payment enough to clear your debts and build a new self sustaining ground strikes me as a windfall in anyone's language. I don't grudge you it and am impressed by how its been used but surely you can't say it was not a windfall?
Its semantics really but I see what your saying. In that sense the opportunity to clear our debts could be considered a windfall.
It also means that your position is not comparable with clubs like Thistle or Morton who's grounds were not as fortuitously sited or with clubs like Motherwell and Kilmarnock who disasterously developed their traditional grounds from already stretched football resources.I would agree that a direct comparison is probably not applicable in the circumstances. However in the last twenty years since our "windfall" Killie, Gretna and Livie have all climbed into the top tier & attended cup finals by borrowing heavily rather than developing alternative sources of income to pay the bills. In turn, we spent a number of years in the wilderness trying to balance the books sometimes involving the sale of tangible assets. In that respect I think a comparison is valid.
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) and have to drive those 3 hours back knowing that even if you had won, it wouldn't matter because you're never going to win the league anyway. You may wonder why anyone would do that, you may think you'd have to be wrong in the head to get any kind of enjoyment from it. But the fact of the matter is that the feeling you have when you get to Hampden, or get any bit of relative success doesn't come from the thought of winning...it comes from the emotional journey you've had to go through over the years to get there. If you haven't made that journey...and as an Old Firm fan you won't...you'll never get to the level of sheer joy and excitement of those of us who have. And that's the bond that exists between fans of all other clubs...that's why we stick together when it comes to things like this, because we've all travelled that journey in one way or another.
Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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This might have been posted before, but even if it has it's worth another read:
Oh ma sides....
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