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A draw does LTHV?
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Maybe it’s already been covered elsewhere in the thread.......how many of the clubs that are applying to join the EOS have consulted their members?.Any club called an EGM?.
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Thanks Pricey much appreciated. The name has been added to the list.
Our list of players without forenames from Rob Roy, Kilsyth and Dunipace is now back to pre-Second World War (and some pre-First World War!) and very difficult to trace. However, here they are in case anyone can help.
McGregor (Dunipace) 1900
McKay (Dunipace) 1906
Miller (Kirkintilloch Rob Roy) 1890
Mills D (Kilsyth Emmet) 1919
Moffat (Dunipace) 1912
Moffat (Dunipace) 1925
Rae (Dunipace) 1902
Smith (Dunipace) 1931
Sneddon (Kilsyth Rangers) 1916
Torrance (Kirkintilloch Rob Roy) 1898
Tweedley (Kirkintilloch Rob Roy) 1920
Off the top of my head,McKay of Dunipace was Tam McKay0 -
Can I get some more help please?
Forenames for the following players:
Kilsyth Rangers
McGinn - 1 game in 1971
W Lees - 3 games as captain in 1968
I Morrison - 1 game in 1963
Pearson - 1 game in 1968
Wilson - 1 game in 1988
Dunipace
McAra - 2 games in 1950
Paisley -1 game in 1990
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Is “Mulhall (Kilsyth Rangers)” capped once in 1953 George Mulhall later of Aberdeen, Sunderland & Scotland?
The McAra of Dunipace was Bobby McAra who went senior with Dumbarton.In the years before his death he was involved with hometown club Sauchie.
As mentioned elsewhere the other Pace player is John Paisley.
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Aye you died.
Would have said his club are still alive but playing over in North Lanarkshire.0 -
That's a great find!!.Its a good addition for my own research into the History of Denny Hibs.Cheers
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Danny Smith scoring against Bonnybridge 19700 -
Brig,could this not be from a Scottish tie v Dunipace in 1927?.This may have been the Paces last season at Bridgend before moving to Carronbank.
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Brig O'Lea,that's a stunning picture!!!.I can certainly can confirm that that the picture was taken in Denny....but not at the Hibs School Loan Ground,but at Dunipaces Bridgend Park.For anybody from Denny,the giveaway is the building in the top right hand corner,that's the Jannies house at the back of Denny primary.The houses at the far end are long gone,they sat at at the foot of the Wellstrand Brae.Without ruling it out,considering the relationship between the two clubs,I'd be surprised at Dunipace allowing the Hibs to use their ground.Its not a season I've had a chance to look at yet,but I certainly will find out.Why not try the Dunipace thread maybe someone there can confirm?.Again many thanks for a fantastic piece of Denny history!!!.
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Garrell ,it's interesting you mention that cup tie.I can never understand why KRFC has 1945 as your year founded.Everything I've came across points to you being the same club after your 5/6 years in abeyance.I'm sure it will eventually be played, It took six years from 1939 to May 1945 to get the final of the Stirlingshire Jubilee cup final between Dunipace and Kilsyth Rangers played.
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As part of my ongoing research into Denny's most successful Junior club,I was delighted when a very good friend loaned me his Grandfathers Denny Hibs medal.It belonged to Tam Kane who played a huge part in the Hibs early years.Tam was the goalkeeper in the clubs first match,first trophy win and first Junior cup final appearance in 1912.The medal looks as if it was presented by the club recognition of the previous season.So far I've only scratched the surface of the Hibs story,but what I have found out is fascinating.
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Hope nobody minds me bumping an old thread,Im sure theres plenty of pics still out there!.
Denny Hibernian committee after their 1931 Scottish cup win.
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We have a limited edition Denny Hibernian scarves.Each scarf is £7 ,£2.50 of which will go to a poverty or homeless charity.Hopefully this will help to revive the name of a once great Denny institution.Pm for further details.
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I had a recent debate with a mate of mine who is on the committee at Dunipace about the year they were formed .As long as I can remember Dunipace have stated that the they were formed in 1888,while researching into the history of Denny Hibs,a lot interesting stuff was thrown up.There was a Dunipace team competing in the senior Scottish cup from 1877,they were founding members of the Stirlingshire FA.Everything I have read from the period before and after 1888 points to the 1877 club and todays Dunipace fc being the same club.
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Sorry folks to bump an old thread,but.........
Next Monday there will be a meeting in the Songbird Lounge,Dunipace,with the view to reviving the name of three time Junior cup finalists,Denny Hibernian.The short to medium term plan is to form a football club that will help and support local community groups and charities.In the cubs short history,they were an integral part of the community,with a lot of well known Denny family names being involved.Hopefully the project can get a bit of support. Everybody welcome!!! meeting kicks off at 7.30pm.
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A huge thanks to Mark Donnelly who is a mod on the Pollok forum for the info he sent me on the Hibs and Dunipace.Below should be an article on the club from 1933,just before the club folded,from the evening times.Thers a lot of good info that I would never have found out about had he not sent.
I will hang fire with the article on the Pace,its thrown up a couple things that I'm desperately trying to disprove!!!!!
TEAM THAT GAVE US JIMMY McMULLAN
The Joys and Sorrows of Denny Hibs
(Article accompanied by photo of Matt Busby)
If Denny Hibs had never done anything other than just give us Jimmy McMullan their existence would have been justified. What a great little player, and what a great little general! And he is still in active service- behind the lines a bit, but there. I saw him at Maine Road, Manchester, in November in the dressing room, all smiles at that victorious Scottish League team was led inside by John Johnston. No doubt he and his young Denny friend Busby would have a peaceful week after that. Singular that another of my McMullan memories is of Manchester again- this time at Old Trafford in 1926- when we won the big international there. Big Jimmy Gibson seemed highly strung, and McMullan spent his precious period at the interval quietly chatting and soothing his clubmate, who went out to finish off in fine style.
In 1906 – But I’m forgetting- this is Denny Hibs’ history, not McMullan’s biography, though the name recurs so often throughout that it might be anything. Denny Hibs were formed in 1906 from a juvenile club of the same name who played in the field of Denny Athletic until they got their own ground, School Loan. The meeting at which it was decided to run as juniors was held in the schoolhouse. Among those present were the late Rev. Canon Shivens, Bailie (now Provost) Losey, John McGlade, and Jas. Kelly. They secured the field beside the school and named it School Loan- the only ground the club has had. It took much hard wok to make it right, as a burn formerly ran right across it. Unfortunately this is likely to be their last season on it, as a new school is to be built.
The First Officials – The first officials of the club were: - President, J. Hamill (now in America); match secretary, James McBryde (who played with Stenhousemuir for years); and financial secretary, James Kelly. Denny Hibs entered for all the local cups and also the Scottish Cup, but were refused entry into the Stirlingshire League. This meant many friendlies to fill vacant dates. The first game on the field was a first round Scottish Cup-tie against Dunipace Juniors, then holders. There was nearly a sensation- Dunipace only drew level in the last half-minute, making the score one goal each. Dunipace won the replay, but only by the merest margin: - 2-1. Denny’s team here was:- T. Kane, Davidson, W. Kane, J. McMullan (“Grocer”), O. Kane, Loney, J. Fagan, J. Crawford, Patrick McMullan, Hynds, and Peter McMullan. The trainer was Neil Dougall, whose three sons played with Falkirk and Burnley.
The First Honour – The following season, again denied entry to the Stirlingshire League, Denny secured admission to the Clackmannan County League and won it- their first honour. In the Clackmannan Cup-final they were beaten by Alva 2-1. It was 1910-11 before they won their first cup, the Stirling and District, beating their local rivals, Denny Athletic, 3-0 with the following team:- T. Kane, Forbes, Bell, McCann, J. McMullan, Carr, Laurie, McCulloch, P. McMullan, Cameron, and Wilson. By this time they were in the Stirlingshire League and won it also. Then came one of their big years, 1911-12, and one of their sad disappointments. With only one goal registered against them they reached the Scottish Cup Final at Firhill, and when it was over they had lost a total of six and the cup- Petershill winning 5-0. I saw the game and how little luck they had in it.
An Ill Wind – However, it’s an ill wind, etc. The cash from the gate cleared them of debt for the first time since the club was formed. They sportingly admit that the following side- not their full strength- had been fairly beaten: - T. Kane, Docherty, Bell, Carr, James McMullan, James McMullen (later Partick Thistle), E. Kane, McCulloch, Pat. McMullan, T.O. May, and McHarg. In 1917 Denny had this good side which won the County Cup and Falkirk District and Hospital Shield:- T. Ferguson, Wylie, Loney, T. Scott, J. McMullan, Hammond, O. McMullan, McCormick, Kielt, Mulholland, and McHarg. Again, in 1922, they had another fine side- sufficiently good to beat their greatest rivals, Dunipace, in the final of the County Cup. Here it is: - Coutts, Whitehead, Hammond, Dunnigan, J. McMullan, Marshall, Burns, Todd, Dyer, Price, and Malloy.
A Queer Year – 1928-29 was a queer year. They reached the final of the Scottish, Stirlingshire, Falkirk District, and Victory Consolation Cups, and lost the lot! They were beaten in the Scottish final by Dundee Violet 2-0, but protested before the game finished and secured a replay at Dundee. This finished a draw 2-2, and they were sent back to Dundee- which they considered harsh- and lost 4-0. They had another protest- sound and sufficient- but after persuasion from the ruling powers and a bitter meeting with their own supporters it was withdrawn. In view of certain happenings in the 1930-31 Burnbank-Denny Hibs final the arguments used then about “protests not being in the interests of the game” by influential people rankle with Denny now. Denny’s team against the Dundee Violet was: - Maxwell, McAuley, Martin, Keir, B. McMullan, Crossley, McCormick, McKay, Young, Anderson, and Regan. At Dundee McRobert came in for McMullan, and the second day at Dundee McMullan came in for Young.
More Than History – In 1930-31 Denny won the Scottish Cup, Falkirk District, Stirling District, and the Scottish League, besides being runners-up in the Victory Cup final and Stirlingshire League Cup. The team which at Tynecastle beat Burnbank in the Scottish final 1-0 was: - Toner, Herd, Martin, Davidson, D. McLaughlin, Crossley, McKay, McDonagh, Wilson, Comrie, and Archibald. What followed is more than club history, and a book might be written about the subsequent “protest proceedings”. But I’ll keep off that, after recording that Denny Hibs were not just in ecstasies when they ultimately were given possession of the cup for ten days! They considered they had won it well twelve months previously. However their honours list is quite an imposing and creditable one, comprising:- Scottish Cup- 1930-31; Falkirk District Cup- 1917, 1924, and 1931; Clackmannan League- 1907-08; Scottish League- 1930-31; Stirlingshire County Cup- 1916-17, 1922, 1932; Stirling District Cup- 1910-11, 1932; Stirlingshire League- 1911; League Cup- 1926. Individual honours were gained by the following in being “capped” for Scotland:- J. Allan, W. Forbes, W. McHarg, James McMullan, D. Keir, M. Comrie, D. McLaughlin, G. Maxwell, J. Archibald, and J. Black.
Players Remembered – Players who have played with the Hibs and later gone to the seniors include James McMullan (Partick Thistle and Manchester City), J. Loney (Clyde), Busby, Rodgers, Comrie, and Burns(all of Manchester City), Sherry (Preston North End), W. Forbes (Plymouth Argyle), Black (Sunderland), Park (Swansea), Archibald, McDonagh, and McKay (Raith Rovers), A. McAttee, McCormick, Robertson, and Owen McInally (Celtic), O’Kane (Leith), J. Allen (East Stirlingshire), J. Crawford (Blackburn Rovers), James Smith (Rangers), and McCaig (Stenhousemuir). Other players who helped the club to prominence were J. Dunnigan, G. McAulay, G. Coyle, G. Price, J. Crossley, and Peter Ryan (president, and secretary when they won the cup). Crossley has a unique record- a winner’s medal for every competition the club has entered for. And he is still playing!
Since the Beginning – Prominent Officials have been such as Mr. John O’Hanlan- who has given unflagging service since the club was started- A. McNeil, M. Ryan, J. Lynn, H. Dunnigan, J.J. Timmons, C. McMahon, W. Crawford, B. Kelly, James Smyth, James McGlade, W. Coyle, J. Sinclair, J. McPake, C. McCallum, J. Casey, and T. Garner. And from what I have gathered in the compilation of this history the James McMullan resident at Denny is just as thorough in his position as his namesake at Manchester. They all seem to be a fine set of chaps, even if after a memorable Scottish Cup-tie a party got lost in the fog in Glasgow, missed all the buses, and were finally locked up overnight in the Central Police Station!
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This map "date revised 1913, publication date 1922" shows yet another football ground. Could it and the one at the bottom right be former grounds of Dunipace Juniors. I believe they played at "Bridgend" 1909-28 and before that at "Green Park".
I would think the park on the left,west Boreland road would be Dunipaces Bridgend Park.Probably because there is a bridge at the end of the road!!!!
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It says "date revised 1938. Probable publication date c 1948" which is a bit odd since Carronbank should appear on the map. I believe Dunipace moved into Carronbank in 1928. Presumably the two grounds were in use simultaneously for a few years.
Do you know anything about the football ground on the bottom right of the map?
cheers,canni be 1938,the R.C.school the replaced the Hibs ground would be on it a least.Got a wee bit o feed back on the Denny Hibernian facebook page about the pitch to the right.It was called both Anderson and Hall Park,and was used mainly by Juvenile teams.Denny Rangers,Denny YMCA. ETC
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FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
Aye Paul,thats the Hibs ground down the "Gote" Loan.All match reports from the time refer to the ground as being the School loan,but it has always been better known as the "gote " loan.What year is this from?.The public park with bandstand later became Carronbank Park,home of the Pace.
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Does anyone know why they folded so soon after winning the junior cup? Even allowing for it being against competition that was significantly weakened by the intermediate dispute (there was a short-lived breakaway in the late 20s and early 30s by top clubs in the Glasgow area and in Ayrshire that were in dispute with the SJFA) that still seems surprising. Yoker won the last of the rival intermediate cup finals the season Denny Hibs beat Burnbank.
Been doing a wee bit further research on why they folded.The club were notified that the ground had been requisitioned for a new school.Unfortunately the couldn't come to a solution for a new ground in time for the start of season 33/34.An EGM was called and it was decided that the club would go into a years abeyance,sadly as usually happens they never returned.
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Where abouts in Denny was the Hibs ground?
School Loan.I imagine that you know Denny,head down the town take a right just after the Donner Inn,into Carronbank.I would think that the ground would have been on the site of the present Saint Pats primary school, making it almost back to back with Dunipace's old Carronbank park.
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Great stuff Klepto,every wee bit helps!!
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During a recent conversation,the name of Denny Hibs came up.Afterwards it got wondering who were Denny Hibs?.I knew a lot of the well known stuff,Scottish winners 1931,runners up another twice,Matt Busby,Jimmy McMullan etc.Since then Ive started doing a bit of research mainly through the excellant Brian McColl site and the Falkirk Herald archives.So Im sending a plea for any info,scores or stories about the Hibs.No matter how trivial,let me know!.
As a footnote,on this day 1931...........
Scottish Junior cup final at Tynecastle Park
Denny Hibernian 1 Burnbank 0
scorer McDonagh att 10,000 gate receipts £300
Mon the Hibs!!!!
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Another two from the Pace.
First is the Dunipace side that beat Pollok in the 1/4 final 2-11 in 1980,there was a crowd of around 4000.
Second,Dunipace players and officials after the team defeated Arthurlie on pens in the sectional league cup final.The Fir park attendance was 1946,how times have changed.
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Junior football, what is the future?
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How do the three leagues work in terms of promotion etc towards season 2019/20?