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Just now, Kempes said:
Yeah, but he was on the bench and came on? I’m not buying that!
He was subbed off after 49 mins on Tuesday. He's barely played any football this season and most would have been entirely fine with Lennon Miller dropping in to replace him given the way he's performed for us this season.
You don't think it's possible for him to have been fit enough to take some part in the game but not start? Sound.
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Just now, Kempes said:
Now that Derek Adams has resigned, I am pretty sure that there is not another manager in the league who would not have started Halliday last night. Halliday is not exactly popular, but he’s just what you want in a cup tie like that. SK got that badly wrong…and let’s not even talk about Liam.
Halliday went off injured on Tuesday night so...there's the answer to why he didn't start.
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25 minutes ago, Swello said:
Keeper aside, last night felt like a failure of management to me. We knew Morton were going well (and to be fair, they looked well coached and totally comfortable against us) but there just seemed to be a lack of any kind of shape or game plan - it looked like lower half of the Championship style. A lot of the gains recently seemed to go out the window and we were back in Dingwall in December. I don't think there are many precedents for managers just leaving at the end of their contracts in the way that players do - but that option needs to remain on the table dependant on how it goes between now and the end of the season - any extension before then would be silly.
Result aside this is probably the most annoying thing about last night IMO.
Even though we hadn't necessarily been winning on this recent run it felt like we'd generally found a way to get gain control of games rather than the sort of chaos we'd seen through November/December.
As you say, that just seemed to go straight out the window as soon as Morton started to get in about us - to me that seemed more a result of the players getting spooked rather than anything tactical but the net result was the same I guess.
@thisGRAEME made the point a few pages back that the one time we got the ball down and moved it quickly we scored. Which is, politely, infuriating given the shambles that preceded it.
There was a point in commentary where it was mentioned O'Donnell gave Kelly both barrels after seeing the ball launched (again) when there was a straightforward short ball on to Bevis or himself. It didn't seem to register though.
Tbh, Kelly had the energy of someone playing through a full blown panic attack and having gone completely rogue.
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11 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said:
Kettlewell picked the team which has been doing well and which all of us would have picked(ish).
Yes, he could have changed sooner but I'd blame the players much more than the manager for this one.
Aye. I’m no Kettlewell stan but I agree that was on the players.
Not in a ‘downed tools’ way but they never got to grips with the game and genuinely looked spooked by Morton.
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14 minutes ago, eliphas said:
I mean I basically need @capt_oats to make the reference to something like The Last of Us, Game of Thrones related, maybe even Lost or The OC if he's keen
Given my username every post I make is a small reference to The OC.
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3 hours ago, Ceiling Granny said:
Probably true, but I prefer a convoluted “masterplan” everyday of the week. Makes the board seem more competent in a way
See, the more I’ve thought about it; George quit then went back pretending nothing happened after he realised he wasn’t getting another job. We’ve terminated little Oli’s loan and sent him back to Barnsley before bringing him back after all our other options fell through saying “Oh, yeah there was always a chance this could happen”.
I don’t think we were ever playing 4D chess or anything but it actually *is* the Costanza move we’ve pulled.
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55 minutes ago, Ceiling Granny said:
I think the plan was always to keep Shaw, they just had to go through a “very unlucky not to sign another striker” saga to get people thinking “maybe he wasn’t that bad”. The board might be rudderless but if that was their game it seems to have worked with a fair portion of people.
I mean, maybe I’m not giving everyone involved enough credit but I’d be surprised if we Costanza-d Shaw.
Dunno, it feels more likely that we’ve just gone back to Barnsley as an absolute last resort after we’ve missed our targets than us terminating his loan with the intention of gaslighting everyone by bringing him back and pretending nothing happened.
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3 minutes ago, Stevie Kirk said:
Ferrie is only 17 and I don’t think his loan at Stenny was up to much. He certainly has the potential to come good in a few years time but right now he is miles off 1st team quality .
I just had a swatch at Ferrie's Transfermarkt and he's actually played more minutes for us this season than he managed at Stenny.
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3 hours ago, MurrayWell said:
The "appeal" thing is all to do with Barnsley submitting a form to the FA before the deadline to allow a bit more time to get the deal finished.
We are certainly spinning it that he was only back down for treatment, don't think that was the case. The loan was originally cancelled and we are paying less this time from what I heard.
Edit: just checked and the original statement said the loan was terminated. This new story doesn't specify that it's a new loan deal but I think that's the case.
Aye. I mean, fair play to the club for trying to spin this and given the circumstances...fine but don't kid a kidder.
3 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:I'm sort of fine with it. The last two games have brightened the mood around the place but I still think failing to bring in a striker on deadline day was a bit of a minor disaster. This at least gives us something other than Vale and the Bair.
Yeah, I had posted after the window shut saying that regardless of what happened going forward it was still a failure and I kind of stand by that.
We cleared the decks but presumably missed *all* our targets - given we've brought back an apparently still injured player whose loan we terminated less than a month ago.
Like I don't think folk need to be looking for their pound of flesh or anything (the Nick Daws thread on Steelmen is a riot - shoutout the boy who can't "farthom" (sic) why people think results last season were worse. Spoiler: it's because results last season were worse.) but there probably needs to be some sort of accountability as far as process goes; were we unrealistic in our targets, did we leave things too late, was it financial etc?
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I see "Union" Jack has us releasing a joint statement alongside Aberdeen, Livi, Rangers (ick), St Johnstone and St Mirren.
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Just now, hk blues said:
Aye, it just seems strange to say it'd need a win rather than a draw when it's all down to the Dundee result on Sunday which could render anything you get against the Dons irrelevant.
Well. My point was that in any circumstance a draw wouldn't suffice on account of the Dundee St Johnstone impacting.
I thought that was pretty obvious but...here we are.
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1 minute ago, hk blues said:
A win wouldn't necessarily do it either.
Yes. I know. That's why I said "it depends on that result" in the sentence you've just quoted and then pointed out the permutations.
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9 hours ago, Quatermass said:
A draw at Aberdeen next week would see us pay a wee visit to the top 6. What a daft league.
It'd need to be a win against Aberdeen as the rearranged Dundee v St Johnstone game is over the weekend so it depends on that result.
The draw puts us on 26 points. Dundee win they go to 29 points, draw 27. St Johnstone win they go on to 27.
The difference in narrative of the respective seasons is quite funny though. The general consensus seems to be that Dundee are having a "good" season while we're erm...very much not.
As it stands there's a point difference between the two teams with us having (marginally) scored more goals and conceded fewer.
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9 hours ago, Swello said:
In amongst all the stand-out stuff - Nicholson put in another interesting cameo tonight - think he could be a properly good signing (is he just short-term/loan?)
The spiel in the news story for his signing was really oddly worded in so much as it implied it was a free transfer.
Quote"Sam Nicholson has joined the club the club on a deal running until the end of the season, subject to international clearance and paperwork formalities."
However, during the press call he did the other week he said that he's still "technically" under contract at Colorado.
Reading Colorado's announcement he's been 'waived' so it seems he's been freed.
QuoteCOMMERCE CITY, Colo. — Colorado Rapids defender Danny Wilson and winger Sam Nicholson have been waived, the club announced today.
Wilson, 32, initially joined the Rapids ahead of the 2018 season from Scotland’s Rangers F.C.. The center back made 136 regular season appearances for Colorado, scoring five goals and adding seven assists during his six seasons with the club.
Nicholson, 28, rejoined the Rapids in 2022 after a two-season spell with Bristol Rovers F.C.. Nicholson previously spent three seasons with the Rapids from May 2018 to July 2020. In total, he scored six goals and delivered eight assists across 85 regular-season appearances during two stints with the club.
“We’d like to thank Danny and Sam for their contributions on and off the field during their time at the club,” said Colorado Rapids President Pádraig Smith. “We wish them both all the best in their future endeavors.”
I actually quite enjoyed his presser (as far as you can "enjoy" pre-match interviews with players) he seems entirely sound...
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So Burrows tried to get Warnock in at Fir Park then?
Quote"What matters more is the here and now. Warnock has Burrows in his corner – “Alan wanted me to take over at Motherwell years ago” – and he will hope to have the squad onside. “If the players give me everything, I'll man their corner,” the Englishman added. It’s unlikely they’ll have a choice."
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I'm sorry but I literally just burst out laughing in the middle of the office.
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44 minutes ago, MurrayWell said:
Not jumping to Kettlewell's defence here, but I think ahead of the Dundee game (first game of the season) he was already talking up Bair and that he felt he'd seen something other managers hadn't in him. Media around Bair is frankly fucking ridiculous, fair play to him for just ignoring it.
Bair deserves all the praise coming his way, he has been superb for us this season despite what some folk have claimed.
Aye to be clear, when I'm saying we should have kept our powder dry I'm not saying we shouldn't be talking him up. He's been playing really well and above anything else he seems to be someone who responds well to that sort of thing.
I guess what I mean is that it just feels a bit premature for Kettlewell to be taking victory laps with a "told you so" energy. Leave that sort of chat until the end of the season when he's hit 20.
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I've actually found a lot of the Bair discourse really odd, surprising even.
Like, we've seen journos pretty much saying straight to his face "LOL everyone thought you were shit eh?" like that's a totally OK line to take.
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10 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said:
I find it hard to disagree with any of these points and agree with @capt_oats that last season's back three should be our destination.
In defence of not making those changes tomorrow, we've got the opportunity to play the same team three on the bounce, we've had two fairly positive results and some of the players in that XI (Davor, Halliday, Butcher & Gent) look like they are getting up to speed. To start tweaking things in such a big game might not be so wise.
I wouldn't be averse seeing Nicholson, Miller, Buyabu and Devine in from the start on Friday, with them being bed in from there.
This is pretty much where I am tbh.
A big part of Kettlewell's success when he was parachuted in was the fact that he was effectively playing the same team week in, week out, and while it's fair to say that he's not helped himself at times this season, given the injuries he's had to deal with it's meant he's not really had the opportunity to get a regular, settled XI on the park.
Fwiw, my hot take is that we might actually start turning some of the draws into wins with this shape if we swap out Paton for Nicholson on account of Nicholson being a natural forward rather than a centre mid being asked to play in what is effectively an attacking role. Equally I don't think SK will do it because he seems to fucking love Harry Paton but I'm 100% of the view that we'd see an improved output from playing Nicholson in there (once he's actually fit).
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20 minutes ago, Eliphas Pettigrew said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68194487
A nice positive piece on Bair this morning
Dunno lads, I feel like we could probably have kept our powder dry rather than giving it the "I told you so" about the big man.
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4 minutes ago, Swello said:
See - I'm sort of the opposite here. I think McGinn and Butcher are when fit (and match fit in Butcher's case) first choice options. Casey has been poor by his standards this season (but on his best form would be a first choice) and I've yet to see anything from Blaney that convinces me he's better than anyone in the current first choice 3 - he feels every inch a squad player to me.
Aye, to me it's McGinn who actually makes the back 3 work.
With respect to Casey for all his plus points when he's on form he still doesn't offer what McGinn does on the ball in terms of progressing the ball up the park.
If everyone is fit and on form then it's be a return to the back three of last season for me McGinn/Butcher/Casey.
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2 hours ago, Cloontang said:
We have only lost two of our last ten games, the draws have been killing us but there are plenty of positives to be taken from our last three league games. We have conceded 6 against Ross County this season, our defence seems a bit more robust as of late but we still seem content to either concede with the opposition's first effort on target or conspire to hand them a goal on a plate, so with that in mind you can't help but feel that we will need a few goals to secure the win. It'll be interesting to see how we line up especially with us having the three games in six days.
I'd imagine we'll set up the same as Saturday but probably make a bit more use of the bench.
These are the sort of games we usually f**k up and seeing as we apparently aren't allowed nice things this season I'm not exactly confident of things going our way.
Just saw a clip of Kettlewell's pre-match and according to the man himself Obika's back training and the only injury we have at the moment is Slattery who's due in for surgery this week.
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Happy to stand corrected but I'm not sure he did. I thought he had said something along the lines of "at one point" we had (past tense) 3 managers and assistant managers on the payroll. The implication as I saw it was that it was last season he was talking about rather than currently.
As far as I could tell the reason we're not keen on making another managerial change is, as you say, the cost but also there seems to be a general acceptance that we can't just keep binning managers every time we have a bad run (the bad business and bad vibes argument).
Also the fact that the interim CEO is stepping down along with the chairman means it's a hassle they probably don't want to deal with.