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43 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said:
Halliday has had a poor couple of games - hard to tell whether it's just a wee loss of form or he's not actually fully fit after injury.
We've already signed him on a PCA btw.
I'm not exactly an Andy Halliday stan but aye, it's not even the injury he picked up with us - he'd hardly kicked a baw for Hearts this season when he signed.
It feels quite daft for anyone to be making any sort of assessment of him given how little football he's played.
Prior to signing with us in January he'd played 46 minutes. As it stands he's only played 458 mins total.
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30 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:
To me it's more like Robinson. He continually fucked starting lineups then fixed it, and improved pretty steadily.
Kettlewell never gives me the "what the f**k are we even doing?" that Alexander did regularly.
This is it for me as well.
I think the noise around Kettlewell is very similar to the grief Robinson got: some folk have just decided they don't like him and that's that really.
See when you hear stuff like "I hope he proves me wrong"...generally people don't actually like being proved wrong.
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5 minutes ago, pozbaird said:
Did Motherwell suffer many career ending injuries in home games when it was Fir Park that was an absolute disgrace a few seasons back? Fir Park is braw’ these days, but it closely resembled the current Dens Park surface, if not worse.
"A few" = 15 years.
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Keyes and Nelms looking at an unplayable pitch after overseeing the managed decline of Dens.
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4 hours ago, nelsjfc said:
Interesting to see what's going on motherwell - doesn't sound like the threat of playoff worrying investors too much there.
Hopefully we get some update soon with what's going on at saints.
In fairness, if things are as rumoured on our thread the level of investment we're looking at is much more modest largely because we're not actually looking to sell the club (despite the impression our chairman seems to have inadvertently created).
In that respect I'd imagine your scenario with the Browns selling up has much more riding on it than ours.
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2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:
Found this line in the STV report interesting. Would it be making the money club this way, or themselves?
In fairness there are a number of inconsistencies with that article.
I mean, it's semantics but Barmack wasn't Vice President of Netflix as an entity as implied by the article. He was VP of different departments including Independent Content and International Content. If you look at their current leadership structure they have loads of "Vice Presidents" - https://about.netflix.com/en/leadership
More factually we're not "partly" fan-owned. We're fully fan owned and have been for fucking ages.
Also, that quote you've (fairly) picked up on was rumoured to have been the other bidders who comprised Australian/Middle-Eastern/US "investors" whose approach we seem to have binned. They were the mob who wanted to bring in their own CEO and what not.
As it stands it's not actually that clear what's in it for Barmack in terms of ROI but the wording in the STV article is a bit of a mess:
Quote"The club subsequently entered talks with Barmack who is said to be keen to utilise his television background to grow income as well as a US-based multi-national consortium which felt it could make money through recruitment and sale of players."
It's two separate approaches.
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41 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:
I like him.
I enjoyed him taking shots at Dundee.
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It's Ewan McVicar's da
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11 minutes ago, Neil86 said:
I wonder if that is who he co-founded the company for fantasy football games with?
@capt_oats the more i'd read into him the more I leaned away from the documentary idea.
I suppose for balance it's worth pointing out he was at Netflix when they did the Juventus series in 2018.
He's quoted about it in the article below:
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14 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:
Isn't Netflix $14b in debt?
There you go.
$14.54B
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1 hour ago, Neil86 said:
This guys plan is to basically do a Wrexham isn't it. Fire out a fly on the wall Netflix Documentary and hope it takes off in the same fashion.
Every report i've read refers to it as a Scottish Wrexham.
Does anyone have the slightest idea how much this guy is worth?
I doubt it. The Wrexham thing is just a pretty obvious link for clicks. See also the Record calling him a 'mogul' he was an employee of two admittedly very large companies (and very successful with it by all accounts).
It's worth mentioning that Weir was quite open at the AGM in saying that the deal on offer wasn't 'transformational'.
If you actually look at the content his production company puts out it's generally originals from non-US territories LatAm, Scandinavia, India. His focus seems to have been developing international content and placing them with streamers eg: Amazon, Netflix.
The question remains as to what he'd actually be getting out of it but I very much doubt it has anything to do with a documentary. I mean, for a start he wouldn't need to purchase a stake in the club to do that - the folk that made Sunderland Til I Die weren't obligated to buy into that particular shitshow.
They just made the series.
1 hour ago, santheman said:It'll be interesting to see what this guy's motive is behind the bid. As far as I can see he doesn't seem to have any major sporting interest?
Maybe he sees some profit in the media angle or maybe he just wants somewhere to take his Hollywood pals for a pint and take in a game when they visit Scotland.
I look forward to seeing Orlando Bloom buying a round in the Cooper bar.
I clocked your post on Steelmen just there but seeing as I don't post there I thought I'd chip in here.
1 hour ago, santheman said:Aye it will be interesting to find out what his motives behind the offer are.
Doesn't appear to have any sporting interests in his past that you can find online so maybe you're on the right track with a media angle.
Would like a swatch at the contacts on his phone, Hollywood's elite no doubt.
He was Senior Director at ESPN in Business Development for 6 years so there's your sports angle.
Again, as @Handsome_Devil mentioned when the name first appeared on the thread, and this is possibly what you were getting at, there's no history of him having been involved in an actual sports team before. Which tbh, I take as a good thing - his background is almost entirely business development rather than seemingly wanting to own a football club.
I don't know if you're being facetious about the contacts book thing but he wrote a book, published by Simon and Schuster in 2006 called Why Fantasy Football Matters: (And Our Lives Do Not). What's interesting about that is that it was co-written with Max Handelman - who is Max Handelman you might ask? As well as being a sports writer he's also Elizabeth Banks' husband and partner in Brownstone Productions who produced the Pitch Perfect series, the Charlie's Angels Kristen Stewart re-boot, Cocaine Bear and Bottoms amongst others.
Long and the short of it their estimated net worth according to the internet is $50m. I mean, it's not them who are investing but taking things at face value Barmack seems to be an actual, real person rather than a Walter Mitty type of the Craig Whyte 'wealth off the radar' school.
I guess one of the criticisms of the board/club over the past while is that it's been populated mainly by...erm, old men whose business experience is on the traditional side. I'll admit that I'd be quite curious to see what inserting someone who has held senior positions at companies such as ESPN and Netflix might bring to the club in terms of approach to infrastructure etc especially since his business is literally doing deals on an international platform.
Again, you have to ask the question what he'd actually be getting out of it though.
35 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:Isn't Netflix $14b in debt?
Probably aye.
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2 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
I've also not been following the finer details since I found out it won't be at Hampden and lost interest but does it not basically absolutely have to be played this weekend if they want to have the split sorted on time?
The latest last resort (according to The Sun…f**k The Sun) is behind closed doors in Airdrie on Monday at 3pm.
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It’s the Netflix guy that was mentioned on here ages ago and was the offer that seemed to be preferred at the AGM.
I see Bret Easton Ellis is following him on IG (as is Dee, which is more pertinent to this thread I guess).
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I'd be lying if I said I'd been keeping up to date with the pitch chat through the day but while I get that the inspection being held today seems a bit pointless I guess if it had failed earlier then there would have been a push to discuss alternate venues given forecasts and what not.
I suppose it passing today and them working towards that means it's more likely just to be P-P on Saturday rather than relocated after it pishes down between now and kick off.
(and also as @Ludo*1 says Dundee get to keep up appearances by showing everyone that they *really* tried)
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37 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:
Every manager seems to dabble in it. I don’t hate the shape, but it seems (and this may sound silly) like a more specialised formation in terms of it requiring certain types of players with certain qualities in certain positions to work well, and if it doesn’t it’s pish.
Moreso than the humble 4-2-3-1 anyway.
Not that it has anything to do with Aberdeen or anything but we are kind of the opposite.
I think you have to go back to the McCall era to find a Motherwell team that the 4231 worked for. We've been absolutely cursed any time we've tried it since. Hammell tried it last season and it was shambolic.
Whereas variations on 352s have probably been our more successful teams - Robinson's 433 being the exception.
As I say, f**k all to do with Aberdeen but I'm quite amused by the idea that certain shape work for some teams more than others.
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On 02/04/2024 at 23:20, well fan for life said:
SOD better win POTM or you lot are dead to me.
Get him on the plane.
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Good write up from McGarry about the investment stuff in his Herald mail out just there.
21 hours ago, eliphas said:I'm sure @JayMFC can clear up a few of these points @capt_oats
But yeah, I guess I posted about this before like 500 pages ago probably, but a wee explainer about the governance structure and who can do what would be lovely. Quicker the WS website is back the better.
I do expect an chairman and exec board to be able to do stuff without seeking majority shareholder confirmation as long as they are kept updated along the way. But it's the not knowing which leaves us wondering...obvious statement but that's the gap here.
Tbf, I realise that there's stuff that can't be commented on publicly and I wasn't expecting or asking for any sort of clarifications from @JayMFC. He's got more than enough to be doing at the moment than replying to idiots like me running their jaws on the internet.
18 hours ago, thisGRAEME said:Quite funny in hindsight that the whole video thing was based on the community around the club and in large part, that we're a fan owned endeavour.
"Look at us! We're a unique thing! Want to remove that? Come on down!".
There's a heavy Withnail & I energy about the whole thing.
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21 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said:
Aye, this seems utterly insane that the owners of the club are taking a backseat in the negotiations on whether to sell. It brings the question back to just what mandate McMahon has to be doing this? Our governance structure is totally fucked.
Absolutely.
Like, I understand that the Executive Board includes WS representatives but it seems absolutely nuts to me that we're in a position where the majority shareholder is stating that they're not involved in the negotiations.
It opens up a broader series of questions eg:
- Did the WS instruct the whole 'investment' project? If not, who is the driver? If it's McMahon then, as you say what mandate does he have?
- Did the WS have any sort of veto on the video?
- Do the WS have any sort of input in the negotiation?
Being flippant about it, it feels like we're in a position where the club has opened itself up for pitches for investment that the majority owners didn't instruct with a creative that they didn't approve and the negotiation is being entirely driven by the club chairman who is stepping down in a couple of months.
I mean, I'm not suggesting anything underhand or malicious but...what?! The optics of that are mental.
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This seems worth noting...
I mean, I know there are reasons but it will never not seem backward to me that the Well Society Board (as an entity) is not involved in these negotiations.
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I mean, ethics of taking the cash of Human Rights abusers aside, Gillespie's pretty much living the dream.
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14 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:
Yes.
Most 'Well fans will be thinking we'll get millions out this.
I know not a lot about these but I heard one bid was fucking ridiculous and the other shite.
The ridiculous one has been binned by the look of it.Get this in the bin and let us get on with it.
McMahon was called out on his investment slebbers and we've now got a guy desperate to push something through before he fucks off
Aye. There's definitely a expectations vs reality issue here.
It's impossible to tell anything from a statement that, lets face it, says very little but at this point I'm far more sceptical of McMahon's judgement than I am of the potential investor(s).
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Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons
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I'm kind of the opposite on this tbh.
Like, don't get me wrong - all things being equal, if we have a good team I'd far rather be in the Top 6 than not and to be clear us getting Top 6 next week would be very, very funny but I think there's definitely an upside to being best of the bottom 6 in a season like this.
Not least we've already seen the no wins in X games crowd getting bent out of shape this season and given Kettlewell is still getting grief even after we're winning games at the moment per @crazylegsjoe_mfc's excellent post earlier I can't see that us losing 5 on the spin in the Top 6 and getting leathered on someone's trophy day is going to do anything for vibes.
Assuming we're safe early then landing the plane in 7th or 8th with the sort of post-split run we had last season would be absolutely fine for me.