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8 hours ago, ahemps said:
In the early days of Europe lots of teams got to the final with mostly all domestic players, when there was a non domestic player you'll find that it was 1 or 2 players who were not from that nation until around the mid 70's and then the trend changes.
Although Steau Bucharest won it in 86 with a team full of Romanians and when they lost the final in 1990 it was still 11 Romanians.
Red Star in 1991 only had 1 non Yugoslav player.
The great Benfica team of the 60's that won it back to back were all Portuguese.
The great Ajax team that won 3 in a row only had 1 non Dutch player.
Lots of losing finalists were all the same nationality including the Inter team Celtic beat and smaller clubs like Malmo and Panathinaikos also were all the same nationality.
Celtic winning with 11 Scots was amazing but it probably become more of a thing as time passed because at the actual time of the event very few teams had foreigners.
On the treble thing very few counties have a league cup, Portugal, England and maybe Iceland so most teams don't have that opportunity. The treble in 1967 when Celtic won it was an achievement as Dundee won the league and got to the European cup semi the year before Celtic won it. Rangers would win a European trophy a few years later so the competition was there domestically........today a Celtic treble just signifies the extreme gap in finances that is killing most domestic leagues as an actual competition.
I don’t think either the Steau team of 86 or Benfica in the 60’s done their own domestic doubles when they won the European Cup
Again this isn’t a claim that what Celtic done eclipses any other teams achievements just that it appears to be a unique one.
The greatest win? Well that’s some debate that. Forest, Villa, Dortmund maybe even Jose’s Porto but it’s a debate for another thread
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41 minutes ago, bennett said:
Undecided, he's our best midfielder when fit but keeping him fit is clearly an issue.
Jinky to argue with that man in 5 4 3 2 1.....
SIR ALEX FERGUSON has taken aim at the clubs who voted to expel Rangers from the Scottish top flight during their financial turmoil.
And the Scottish managerial great reckons a drop in attendances as the Ibrox side worked their way back through the divisions following administration and liquidation was "a lesson" to them.
And Ferguson - speaking in a major interview for Rangers TV - has hailed the Ibrox fans for "keeping their dignity".
He’s entitled to his opinion Benny which is the point I was making
Hopefully the time you spent googling that doesn’t feel wasted.
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43 minutes ago, kennie makevin said:
'Create fake accolades' ? From a man who regularly posts the falsehood that Celtic's 67 European Cup win is the single greatest achievement in the history of all club football ? Wow...both beyond parody and further proof, if proof needed, that Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic and their tedious band of paranoid, delusional and humourless supporters are exactly the same. A pathetic set of Siamese twins forever conjoined at the arse existing solely to give life to the other.
It was actually Sir Alex Ferguson that said the Lisbon Lions winning the European Cup is the single greatest feat in football and who are any of us to argue with that man?
However for clarity, what I actually posted was the feat was unrivalled in that as far as I know no other club has completed a domestic treble and won the European Cup with 11 players from the same country. Feel free to find me another example and I’ll stand corrected so please if you are going to come for me Kennie at least ensure your opening gambit is a direct quote and not something you think I posted.
Also the arrogance of you
Who decided that you are the curator of what is the greatest feat in club football? A topic that is clearly a subjective one (unlike the one of the worlds most successful club which is a simple totting up process of which Ah Ahly win, but subjectively it’s Real Madrid for me on the basis of European Cups hold much greater gravitas)
Why should all opinion on the matter be false unless it concurs with yours? f**k off you absolute fanny
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5 hours ago, gannonball said:
Found this guy's take on it quite amusing
He’s spot on though, it’s complete nonsense.
The club, its players, its staff and more so its fanbase have a massive inferiority complex hence this need to create fake accolades, refer to titles in numbers so they can feel unique.
The pressure on the rangers board, management and players next season will be huge.
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1 hour ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:
Is he out of contract ?
No, however I do know he hopes to move on this Summer
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24 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:
If he ends up back at Celtic do you think he’ll get an opportunity ?
He doesn’t want to come back to Celtic
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2 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:
Could be an interesting window for Johnston. Working with Corboran has clearly had a positive impact on his form and Corboran obviously rates him and he’s now being quoted to replace Maresca at Leicester.
Exactly, the level argument is a fallacy. It’s too easy to say the level is higher or lower just because a player performs or doesn’t. There are many other influencing factors, the coach being one of the biggest ones.
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38 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:
Time will tell James.
There are many other factors that need to be considered other than it being solely about level. Why was Teemu Pukki a failure up here yet a star down there? Why was Todd Cantwell so highly regarded down there but flatters to deceive up here?
Some players thrive under pressure, some crumble and vice versa. Some players need to build confidence and some just have it.
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7 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:
You’ve also got to look at level they’ve played at previously.
Idah is a perfect example. 1 in 7 record at a higher level and moves here and he’s 1 in 2 and also has his highest ever career total despite only playing half a season and not being a regular starter for that short period of time.
If Celtic sign him I reckon he’d get 20+ next season. Stays at Norwich will be lucky to get 10.
You can counter your nonsensical logic by just looking at Mikey Johnston. Struggled to make an impact up here goes to WBA and immediately is winning the POTM in the Championship, scoring goals for fun and looking as if he’s on another level.
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Cantwell getting a shushburger from Phil
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12 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
The whataboutery reply - classic OF patter.
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18 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
A claim that has all the force of being the third best fishmonger in Stirling.
Yet a particular crutch that the Sevconians seem to treasure.
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All in all an absolute pish poor game. Still don’t understand how the Davies handball Isn’t reviewed by VAR considering it’s been a handball in almost every instance this season.
Got away with the chopped off goal a little, it’s a clear push by Raskin but not sure if Hart was getting there.
Mentality won that game and no doubt the big Belgian waffle is spouting pish about being the better team and moral victories.
Are we now Scotlands most successful club?
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1 hour ago, bennett said:
Nick Whalsh has been outstanding for celtic, totally unplayable.
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13 minutes ago, AJF said:
Indeed. Both fan bases lap up the shite fed to them. This is just the latest example of it to be met with whataboutery. The cycle continues.
I most certainly hope so
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1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said:
you must have started commissioning ‘going for 55’ merchandise in the club shop?
Most likely, I assume someone is coming up with some banterific way of playing with that number
We have a tendency to get ahead of ourselves and sometimes falling short though
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1 hour ago, AJF said:
Obviously not
It’s just more of the sound bite bullshit from Rodgers that the Celtic fans fell for the last time.
He said he sat the team down and showed them a host of headlines from August writing them off. It’s evidently nonsense, but gets lapped up by the same fans that called out his made up stories the last time after he ditched them.
It’s like Rangers fans buying into the next season narrative after every manager gets punted a few months after a summer transfer window.
Its a funny old game
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3 hours ago, bennett said:
Weren't you constantly on your high horse about fans breaking Covid regulations?
I wasn’t down there on a jolly Benny, I work for one of the big broadcasters so I was actually there as part of my work. I have to be in Wembley next weekend too because of it, scunner eh?
I’m sensing your a tad sensitive after watching your team bottle it again
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9 hours ago, Bobby_F said:
Fixed it for you.
There will be tens of thousands of Scottish football fans in Germany next month. Most will be drunk at some (or all) points.
You won’t see anything like Manchester or the recent Glasgow title celebrations.
I’m not going to excuse what happened yesterday but to say Scotland fans don’t cause a mess is just nonsense. I went to London for the last Euros when we played England and it wasn’t particularly pretty and the place was left in a bit of a state too.
The reason you likely won’t see it in Germany is they just won’t tolerate it.
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21 minutes ago, bennett said:
Are you the guy with the 1970s era perm?
Been a long time since I’ve had the ability to grow a barnet like that so nah.
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2 hours ago, bennett said:
Nice bit of self policing there by the chap in yellow. He calmed that down very quickly, fair play to him and very much unlike the pile ons like we have seen in the past
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Both teams have achieved what they wanted to achieve so I’m just hoping for a decent game of football, played in good spirit and then we can go on and enjoy the celebrations.
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13 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:
It's funny, that you guys don't think it's funny, that you mark modern titles with tunes from an era when such things were genuinely contested and meaningful.
Mate you aren’t any sort of authority on who can enjoy what, how they celebrate or what they find meaningful.
Go out and enjoy the sunshine, I’d avoid the merchant city though as there might be too many happy people, enjoying themselves and finding meaning in the experience. Your small mind may just explode
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13 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:
It's contrived nonsense.
A bunch of children.
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