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11 minutes ago, Luddite said:
They don’t give a shit. The players do it cos they’ve been told to do. The fans do it cos they’ve been Pavloved to f**k.
Last time I went to Celtic Park was 2018 for a day out with me old da as it had been years since I’d been with him. The amount of horseshit pantomime stuff they had the fans performing was plastic and phony as f**k. Nothing like when we had gone together in the 80s, 90s and even early 2000s.The organic team-building huddle from the mid 90s had now become “The Huddle” ©
Then there was the little colored craft card mosaic bullshit things and then some thing with lighters in the air, some bouncy-wouncy thing that had been given another © name, the stupid music playing after every goal like an American high school game and then everyone standing up and applauding for a minute cos of some shite or other.
I could go on, and I know at some point there was probably a genuine organic reason for some of these things, but it very quickly becomes just a bunch of self-aware fan am-dram activities to give the impression that this global coroporate entity is still connected to its immediate community in some genuine organic way, when it’s really just a load of glory hunters, mostly from outside Glasgow, performing their fealty to their weekend hobby and amusing themselves during another boring humping of a diddy team in their joke of a league.
To quote Mark Fisher: everything solid melts into PR.
Obsessed.
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On 26/01/2022 at 19:08, ICTChris said:
Finally some good news about the whole situation.
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1 hour ago, ArabianKnight said:
I'd love to know how Abada(sp?) was allowed to stand unmarked on the 6yd line for that goal likes. That was school boy stuff. And watching the Celtic defender standing inside the United half there with the ball at his feet with not a single united player pressuring him was utterly gauling.
Celtic down to 10 men and United players playing containment.
Disgraceful.
Great players find space
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Didn’t think Taylor was fouled until watching it back. Didn’t think Bitton had to make the foul, but understand why he done it. Need to get a ball winner tomorrow… wonder if Aberdeen are interested in letting us have Ferguson or Brown on a 4 month loan.
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42 minutes ago, hearthammer said:
Generally like Michael Stewart as a pundit, but as a co-commentator pundit, he suffers from a major bout of self-indulgence where he loves to over-analyse an incident for well beyond the normal 10 second acceptable support opinion to the commentator. The game has moved on to new developments or incidents, but he's still trying to give his technical analysis of whatever the original issue was.* Rory Hamilton, who is a good commentator (although pro Fran & Anna when required), barely got to describe the action as it was live.
*listen to Kevin Gallagher also as a co-commentator
Better HT & FT analysis IMO
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On 17/03/2020 at 20:14, Dons_1988 said:
Plenty clubs want as many OF home fixtures a season as possible, not just the TV channels.
but how much money is it worth?
Obviously for micro clubs like Hamilton it matters but for Aberdeen, Hibs type clubs, is it a meaningful difference?
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On 12/10/2016 at 20:31, Monkey Tennis said:
My attendance at a Catholic School served only to cement my utter loathing of Celtic.
so you hate Celtic because you hate catholics?
oddly.... your comment is completely out of sync with the other comments in thread at that time.
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18 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:
Hell yeah.
Of course they are.
Aberdeen, winners of 2 European trophies in my lifetime are diddies?
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2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:
Eh?
I'm not using the term as a pejorative.
I'm a diddy and so are the other non-OF fans I'm referring to. I just remember how to behave like one.
Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts... all diddies?
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2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:
I'm the one outside the bubble.
Any delight in Rangers' suffering, is completely offset by distaste over Celtic joy.
Some of you clearly do need reminders of this essential truth. If pointing this out prompts accusations of arrogance, I'm prepared to endure that for all your sakes.
You'll thank me later.
angry little man, you need some love in your life.
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absolutely gutted that he was onside after all.
gutted i say.
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2 hours ago, Drew Brees said:
Frimpong enjoyed that
he's picking up a weegie accent as well.
Pleasing!
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2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:
Lots of Celtic love from lots of diddies in evidence tonight.
As bad as what MJC offers.
This was a lose;lose.
You wouldn't know it to read this thread though.
delicious
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3 hours ago, MONKMAN said:
Collectively, Celtic were shit. If the defence was that good, they wouldn't have gifted Rangers so many chances. Morelos being terrible and Forster being excellent stopped it being a rout.
Celtic created absolutely nothing until Edouard came on.
they had a lot of half chances, Morelos was swinging at everything.
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1 minute ago, craigkillie said:39 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:Nah he’s a shit manager. He’s playing Morgan as a striker when he’s not capable of it.
The guys a diddy who’s lucky to have inherited a very good team from a very good gaffer.Morgan played there in previous games (including one in the Europa League) and did fine. You can't really blame Lennon for expecting more from him today.
there's a big difference between playing in a front 3 to playing up top on your own.
4231 only works when you have a player capable of taking and keeping the ball under pressure up front.
Morgan isn't a bad player, but his first touch isn't one of his best assets and TBH i don't know how Lenny can't see that.
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26 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:
Celtic were absolute shite. Fraser Forster was outstanding, which isn't really surprising as he's an excellent keeper.
All round enjoyable match seeing the **** capitulate yet again.
can't be "absolute shite" if one of our players was "outstanding".
defensively we were good, only moment of really bad defending was when we gave the penalty away but the wee man will learn from that I am sure
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12 minutes ago, bennett said:
Have we ever played a team who played well? Every team we go against, they're always labelled as shite.
We were never going to break a down a well marshalled ten man defence, who closed down our players and gave them very little room. To beat the invincibles we needed space to exploit and we were denied that.
More naivety from us and until we stop chasing games, we won't be winning anything.
I wonder Vicky, do most members realise the clown act is an act.
I agree with your post above however the average fan wont. They will think that Gerry was unlucky cause Rangers compressed Celtic narrowly into their own third and press forced them to play long balls and that with all the "chances" created Rangers should have won.... totally forgetting that only one long ball has to stick with Rangers midfield being too far forward. Rangers didn't know when working tactics that Morgan would be the CF and struggle with direct balls and that the Rangers chances created, although numerous were not absolute stick ons. If a fit French Eddy started it would have been more than 1-0
Missing the penalty and his all round behaviour probably cost Rangers and Alfredo big for the upcoming transfer window.
I think Lenny fucked up today as well.... not in playing Morgan, but in going back to 3 players behind a striker. Morgan works well in a front 3, but alone he just doesn't function playing up front alone. Mikey has the exact same problem.
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Just now, RandomGuy. said:
What can we do about it?
Rangers are horsing money straight in the fire, they still need to raise £8m at some point just to reach the end of the season, and Dave King has walked away. Best case scenario is Celtic continue scraping to wins, Rangers continue overspending in the belief one win sorts their issues and then we end up with a dead Rangers and weak Celtic. Then we just have to hope the clubs have the bollocks to deny Rangers a second time.
if the 2nd best team suddenly go into admin and a fire sale kicks off, they wont be 2nd best anymore.
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2 hours ago, MJC said:
This thread just shows that this fixture is of massive, massive interest to fans of all Scottish clubs.
IMhO a cup final is a cup final and most fans will be interested anyway.
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On 07/12/2019 at 00:12, Bohemian said:
If only someone had of told Gazza that..
looks like Putin pumped Elton John and that was the baby
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37 minutes ago, boulderdomb said:
Might just be nonsense but heard a rumour there was a pitch inspection at Hampden tonight with another one tomorrow at 9am? Anyone know if this is true or not?
BT and their daft amount of coverage will be fuming if the game is off
That would be so funny
Why would the league want to hold their cup final in December anyway
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Mark Brown
Edson Braafheid
Josh Thompson
Lee Naylor
Danny Fox
Zheng Zhi (apart from that goal at Tynecastle obvs)
N'Guemo
Cillian Sheridan
Morten "Duncan Ferguson" Rasmussen
Miku
Lassad
Bangura
Derk Boerrigter
Amido Balde
Pukki
Was aiming for a 4-2-4, but so many shite strikers and wingers
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15 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:
Killen was a great player in this league.
pardon?
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3 hours ago, IceCoolSuperStud said:
European Super League Proposals.
I read with interest about the modern proposals for a European Super League.
But I think the idea of having 16 teams, with guaranteed places for some sides is totally wrong and unacceptable. It is a cartel of dominant clubs, and nations, locking out other challengers, agains the spirit of competition. This idea of the present big clubs being guaranteed a place in the European Super League for 20 years is disgusting, corrupt, and a disgrace.
Unfair on small nations and clubs in the big nations outside the elite clubs who want to join the elite.
Why should the big nations be guaranteed places in the the league, with small nations kept out? This will further entrench big nations as having a dominant monopoly affect on Europe. If the big clubs are good enough, then they should proove it by qualifying for the Super League, each season?
If they are not good enough, that is their fault, and should not be ensured a place they do not deserve.
Queens Park, of Glasgow, Scotland, were once one of the top sides in World football, does that mean they should be guaranteed a place in the European Super League, because they were good in the 19th century?
How would you feel if the big nations were guaranteed places in the World Cup? Or with Brazil or Germany, ensured a place in the Quarter Final, for the next 20 years? It is nonsense. Or if Roger Federer was guaranteed a place in Wimbledon for the next 20 years, regardless of his ability?
Or if Lionel Messi was ensured a place in the Barcelona first team for the next 20 years, because he is great now. Lets use that logic. After all the big clubs will claim everyone wants to see the big sides, with the big players. So under that logic Messi should be guaranteed a place in the Barcelona first team for the next 20 years, even when he is 50, and not good enough to be in the team. If the big sides are so sure that they are the only reason people watch the European Champions League, then put your logic all the way, never change your team line up for the next 20 years. Even when you lose 15-0 to Hibernian reserves, you should still play the same line up, because 20 years ago it was a good line up. Oh but that’s different they will say, surely we should be allowed to change our team because otherwise it would be unfair to have the same players in the team regardless of who is the best player. Well surely it is unfair to have the same teams in the champions league in the future, on the basis they were good sides.
How on Earth can a 20 year guarantee be acceptable, when there are only 16 places available?
If you are good enough, then proove it through qualifying. What have you got to fear?
Then they will claim that they should be guaranteed financial security. Well it is not the job of European football, to ensure some clubs have an unfair advantage over the other clubs, for 20 years. It is totally corrupt, a monoploy and cartel.
Plus it is even unfair on the big sides in the big nations too.
10 years ago, Manchester City, and PSG, would not have been in this elite 16, yet under such guaranteed places, they would not be able to qualify, while an older weaker power would be, simply because they were strong clubs for longer. 100 years ago Motherwell were better than Real Madrid. So does that mean Real Madrid should be stopped from playing in the Champions league and replaced by Motherwell. It is utter nonsense.
Plus this idea of saying domestic leagues remain the same, but the champions league is replaced, by a trophy is even more unfair on smaller nations. All this is about the big nations being guaranteed, an elite place in the later stages of European trophies, while almost impossible chances for winning the top European trophies is available to smaller nation club sides.
All the criticisms of this super league will be from the perspective of clubs in the big leagues. It is utter nonsense.
In my view there is nothing wrong with saying there should be elite clubs in European football. It is glamorous, and exotic to have elite clubs, but they should prove that from year to year, with what is on the pitch. After all if they really feel big players should be kept in the league even when they are not good enough, then put your logic where your logic is, and only pick the same blooming team for the next 20 years.
But the real issue is, should be it should be open for clubs from any nation to achieve that place? Otherwise football will end up like smaller sports, that ensure only an elite few of nations can qualify for the later stages of international club or international trophies.
If there is going to be a European Super League.
A far fairer system, would be an open league system, with promotion and relegation, and instead of domestic leagues.
The top division would be a 16 team European Premier, that all teams from any country, in Europe, can work their way up to, be it Spain, or Slovakia.
Then below that 3 tiers of west, and east divisions of 16 teams.
So that in each tier, there are 2 divisions of west and east.
And, a east and west tier 3.
Then below that a west and east, tier 4 set up.
This would be 64 sides.
I think there is easily 64 sides sides in Europe, big enough to play in European Super Leagues, especially with the lower 3 tiers being regionalised to east and west.
There would be a pyramid system below the European Super League with relegation for the bottom two teams back to their national leagues. And a qualification tournament of national champions to qualify for the tier 4 of the European Super League tier 4.
Plus teams from the European Super Leagues would still compete in the national cup trophies, to give support to their national associations.
Plus there could be European knockout cups, on top of this, with a lower division, and top division knockout cup.
This would ensure that teams from any part of Europe could join the elites, it would be open to teams proving that they are in the elites.
It is not the job of Uefa to ensure only clubs from big nations can succeed.
It is not the job of European football to entrench an elite set of clubs, with little chance of other clubs joining the elite. It is a joke to claim that should be the case. After all Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland were the first 4 teams to play international football, does that mean the World Cup should just be those 4 teams playing each other, forever. It is an utter nonsense, to choose one point in time as the stagnant basis of who should always be Europe’s elite clubs.
It is not the job of European football to give a monopoly to the present elite clubs, or nations. If you are good enough prove it every year, not a guaranteed place.
Andy Murray used to be number one in the world, but now he is struggling, does that mean, that in 10 years time, he should be given a bye to the quarter final stages of the US Open, because he once won it?
If the elite clubs from the big nations can be guaranteed places in the Super league. Then why do domestic leagues not guarantee them places in their top divisions.
Have the Spanish league ensured that Real Madrid can never be relegated, even if they are bottom with 0 points?
Have the English guaranteed that Man Utd, Chelsea, and Liverpool can never be relegated? So why should that be the case for European football trophies? It is pitiful that some clubs think they can ride rough shot over clubs from other nations, and entrench what is purely a time imposed cartel, totally against the framework of European promotion and relegation.
The problem is the critics of this idea will only be based on what is right for the big leagues.
The claim will be made that the European Champions League has been won by sides from only the big nations, for the last 20 years, but that is the whole problem with modern European club football, it is not something to entrench further, and claim that is good for everyone, when it is painterly not, OK for the smaller nations. Having only clubs from the big nations do well, will turn football into even more of a cartel, than it is now. Plus if you are so sure that only clubs from big nations are good enough then give us the same chance and prove it.
I totally accept that there will be elite clubs, and elite leagues, but they should prove that every year, with promotion, and relegation, open to all teams. I love their being elite clubs that we will all watch, but that should be open to other sides to take the places of sides that have stagnated.
And why on Earth would anyone have invested in Man City, or PSG, if they knew that there were only a handful of places open to new teams each year?
Why would someone invest in clubs from smaller nations if they knew they could never reach the top?
Even the Scottish League, does not have a rule that Celtic and Rangers cannot be relegated.
Yes they get rewards for their huge support, and league positions, but even Scotland does not say they can never be relegated from the Premier.
If this rule was in place 20 years ago, the elite teams would include Ajax, and Dyanmo Kiev, as not being able to be relegated for 20 years. Why?
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EUROPEAN FOOTBALL IS NOT A CARTEL TO SET THE PRESENT ELITE CLUBS AS ELITE CLUBS, OR NATIONS, FOR ALL TIME.
Some people will only be happy when there are only 16 clubs in the entire continent of Europe, and all the other clubs can shut down, because football outside the elite clubs is not worth bothering about, in their arrogant view.
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