williemillersmoustache

Kilmarnock face winding up order, its Armageddon for Scotland and the end of football north of the border. Newco face winding up order, it's because they're just sooOOooOo succesful. GTF

alextomo12:54pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®HMRC just emailed. For clarity their leave to appeal on R tax case has been granted. Appeal has been lodged.

Dundee United fans revel in Rangers win The 422 Rangers fans endured a torrid afternoon. Picture: Phil Wilkinson Published on Sunday 3 February 2013 01:55 IT WAS possible to believe that every last Rangers fan had actually respected the boycott of Tannadice yesterday. So little was heard of the 422 who did show, these refusal-refusniks might have well have watched on the box. How they will have wished they hadn’t gone anywhere near Dundee yesterday. Tannadice, blanketed in tangerine, rocked. More than that, it mocked. Mercilessly. The home supporters staged a monster mockathon, the like of which they haven’t treated themselves to since Dundee were last in their firing line for the funnies. The United faithful, buoyed by the appointment of Jackie McNamara as manager, were set up for their day to give the reincarnated Rangers a roasting by the 15-second lead they never looked like surrendering. They started doing so even before kick-off with a chorus of “who the f****** hell are you”, which segued into “you’re not Rangers anymore”. Harsh, but on the basis of the anaemic nature of what the Ibrox club subsequently produced, correct to a point. There was little let-up as the 422 Rangers support sat motionless, impassive. United fans taunted them by “doing the bouncy”, telling them they were only here to see their club, and generally giving it to them tight. And just when it looked like they were beginning to bore of the baiting, a second goal gave them new impetus, with Ally asked the score and a stinging “you’ve never won f*** all”. Refreshed by the half-time, they spent the second period singing the Cranberries’ Zombie on an interminable loop. Other refrains made the repertoire, some of them even – gasp – nothing to do with Rangers. In response, just before many of them cleared off after United added a third, the small, and hardiest band of follow-followers managed to raise a strangulated cry in support of Rangers. That it soon died a death said, well, all too much. I am so jealous, well done Utd. And well done the 422 so giving them something to lol at. Splitters!

Sorry is there a time machine planned to go in beside the hover-pitch? Or are you expecting to be found so guilty this week that you get relegated to 2001?

You know what, I might have moved on from this same/old/new/company/club yawnfest if there had been anything other than the stereotypical, cliche'd, fundamentalist orc reaction to THE RANGERS CRISIS. Excuse me THE THE RANGERS CRISIS. You didn't pay your bills. You didn't play by the rules. You appealed a footballing judgment in a civil court. Lives, businesses, and property were put at risk by the actions a senior member of staff. Lives, businesses, and property were threatened by members of your support. At no stage in the process of this uber-shambles has the footballing entity residing at ibrox covered itself in anything but shame. And you heap on more shame each and every time you deflect, tantrum, stall, appeal and refuse to take your medicine. In fact you've started to puff your chests out, un-circle the wagons and throw your weight around a bit again haven't you? If it wasn't for the fact the grand high wizard of ibrox looks and sounds like Claude Greengrass from Heartbeat and your opposition fitted your ma's bathroom last week, you would deny any of it it ever happened. So we have to remind you. Everyday. Every single day that the oh-so mighty uber-loyal 500million strong super-rain-gerrrrrs died. And not just died, but drowned in a huge bucket of its own greed and arrogance while all 500 million of you watched on and couldn't scrape up the less than 50p each required to save your club. If it wasn't for an entirely compliant and weak governing body and a press that were so deep in the pocket of ibrox they could lick ally's balls, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If, in many years to come I'm in hospital getting ready to check out for the last time and there's some equally old and coffin dodging blue-nose in the bed opposite. I will still, once a day, everyday, point snigger and laugh "you're club died". GIRFUY

This is worth listening to But because they both say that sevco are the same old club and I therefore disagree with them, i hate them, they are the enemy and everything they have ever written is lies. And they are bigots of course.

“Quidquid praecepies esto brevis” f**k off sevco, boo ya cheats. And what monkey tennis said.

I am forced to admit that a large number of Kincardines writing today, on this thread and others, has been reasoned and fair. From that I have to deduce we have in our midst one of the very the top percentile of orc. A kind of super orc, which has laces rather than velcro and uses cutlery. If your kind were just a little bit smarter and a little less gullible, you could be their king. However you snuck in a nasty wee bit of the party line and I won't let it slide. What exactly is it that you 'got' ? 10point penalty for oldco. Given. Demoted as punishment Preferentially placed in Div 3 Year long signing ban Laughably short single transfer period suspension, starting after you'd picked up enough mercenary crocks and thugs to see you through. That's it. Stop playing the conciliatory card, "we took our punishment like stoic, brave, rangers men", when you have received nothing like an appropriate punishment. And in fact you have gotten away with an obscene amount of debt and so far at least, all that cheating. Tic Toc

FFS - Its the return of the moronic fans of the bungling, cheating, lying, stealing, former club providing the view from the gutter.

Yeah, I think it is very easy to criticise and denigrate something you have decided is against you. When in reality it was the old club that brought it all on itself. Now in a new guise it is distasteful to raise your head above the parapet when you really should be being quiet, well-behaved and supportive considering the colossal embarrassment you caused our beautiful game.

What does that mean? The SPL was shite for ages before you died and it is a bit unfortunate that year it 's been quite good, as well as nice not having you around. Armageddon hasn't it been an awful disappointment for you.

I would like to accept Charles Greens offer to leave Scotland at the earliest opportunity if / when league reconstruction is voted through. I take this ultimatum as you finally meaning it this time. My joy knows no bounds. I would like to point out that where it is you go is ordinarily of absolutely f**k-all interest to me or anyone else just so long as you don't hang around like a bad smell as you have done for the past however many years. All the while staining the image of Scottish Football and Scotland as whole. Not only by your consistent and overstated desire not to be here, but by your seemingly never ending capacity for behaving like disgusting children. Coupled with a similarly childish inability to recognise or accept that your behaviour is unacceptable or act with just a tiny wee bit of dignity or self-awareness. But as a fair-ye-well and never darken our doorsteps again parting gift, I would like to suggest the following league where I think you will be very happy. When the message finally gets through that the English laugh in your deluded, uppity, provincial faces and a league somewhere over the North Sea is just a fantasy I think you will think see the benefits of joining an already up and running South Atlantic League. Just think you can wave your flags all you like and proclaim your Britishness at the tops of your voices to the approving nods of the locals. It will obviously be beneficial to the inhabitants and the interests of the UK government,just think of the deterrent that the presence of even a fraction of the 500 million orcs worldwide would be! De Kirchener wouldn't touch the islands with her proverbial, political shitty stick. A quick whip-round to hire the QE 2 for one last one-way trip to get you all there is surely possible for such a big,debt-free, club. There are a couple of drawbacks however. Your presence for a whole season would have the locals burning their British passports and singing Evita in the streets. It isn't far away enough.

Lies. Check "This club accepted their sanctions and moved on" Threats. Check "Word of advice gentlemen. From now on be very careful when talking or writing about this club" Grasp of the Queens English surprising poor considering. Check "We are then entitled to conclude that this club are not important," Well you can't say he's not fitting in well, like he has been there all along somehow. Tom English ‏@TomEnglishSport In regard to Jim Traynor's piece on Rangers' website. I was the one who ridiculed Watty's comedy bid. What are you going to do about it Jim?

Looked everywhere but there is no link to "The The Rangers Standard". Historical journal with no relevance to any current football teams can be found here. Wash your monitor out with hot soapy water afterwards mind.

How dare you malign the robust and gallant moustache . In all honesty the bear gave me a reddie for offering salient and I think timely advice on the behaviour of your fans in another thread and i just saw this and i heard it read aloud in the whiny voice of a 5 year old girl. And it annoyed me. "In fact what happened was the company that used to run the club wasn't liquidated till around the beginning of November. You can check that at Companies House if you want. So Nuuhhhh." Petty perhaps, but I stand ready to rescind said reddie as soon as yon BWM explains why I received one on the other thread when I suggested (very reasonably) that singing about bathing in each others blood wasn't great for your image going forward. Or perhaps demanding an explanation for every red dot is akin to the actions of a whiny 5 year old girl. After cheating and not paying your dues you had a choice: Pay up or start again. You chose start again. That's it. No mystery. No debate required. No keep the nice bits but ditch the bad. No it was all a conspiracy against us, haven't we been wronged. No-one is saying rangers (Mk1) will be expunged forever from the annals of time (although I think it would be nice). It's just as a consequence of starting again, your score is 0. Your age is 0. Pretty reasonable if you ask me and if we are all honest getting the opportunity to start again is far, far more than you deserved. You should be fucking grateful.

Acht jesus I know I'm getting sucked in here but f**k it you seem game and there some real gifts in your material. In no particular order: I deliberately qualified being fifth as not an enormous accolade, far from boasting. Nice to see you acknowledge the oh-so famous Aberdeen as the most decorated Scottish club in European competition, most successful has a nicer ring to it and I would appreciate it if you used that phraseology in the future. Oh how long will the newco aspire to having two European trophies, when celtics 100% less achievement of 1, must seem like such an impossible dream to you now. Shame - where's that exploding irony meter gif when you need it.

More of them true truths: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premier/table I know its not an enormous accolade but we are fifth. Thereby discrediting your tawdry post and handing you your arse on a plate. GIRFUY 5Aberdeen1934311114231310327

I'll take the flak for not answering each point in turn but I just don't have the effort. My opinion is that there is more bullshit per square inch in the above post than in any other piece of literature ever written since man first drew a cock and balls on the walls of his cave. So I've decided to cherry pick the highlighted section above as to me it is so offensive, so delusional and characterises that super sevco attitude. Discredited HMRC. What do you mean by this? Trying to make you pay your dues hasn't harmed the tax man, if anything I think it has strengthened his resolve. This is the tax raising and collection authority for the country you live in. You cannot side line him. He will not go away. And as has been pointed out so many times a significant number of the cases were not contested (i.e you admitted liability). tawdry attempt to reopen The Big Tax Case taw·dry (tôdr) adj. taw·dri·er, taw·dri·est 1. Gaudy and cheap in nature or appearance. See Synonyms at gaudy1. 2. Shameful or indecent: I would of thought that the word used above would more aptly describe the actions of both of your old and new clubs. The act of deliberate non-payment of tax is a pretty cheap thing to do. Skipping out on a huge amount of debt, shameful. Claiming to be debt free, claiming the history and the accolades but shunning the debt that was accrued while getting there, I would say is indecent. To be honest I think cheap in nature and appearance kind of sums you lot up nicely. reopen. Like it was all done and dusted and this is nasty old HMRC digging up old news. Just a cheap bit of spin but since it's 'true truths' were gunning for here then I thought I'd point that out. swept aside and, yet again Bit more spin there. Would hardly describe a 2-1 majority verdict as swept aside, except by maybe the past masters of the Bob Crampsey emphatic 1 nil victory (last minute penalty usually) and as mentioned above admitting selective guilt is far from sweeping it aside. And 'yet again', this implies not one but two previous rulings in your favour. Please pray tell when were these two additional arse-on-plate handings? get handed their arse on a plate And finally the true blue attitude perfectly demonstrated. Handing the HMRC their arse on a plate. Wow what a victory that would be. OOh doesn't that make you feel big. Doesn't matter who it is against or what you have to do as long as it's a victory for ra peeple. A fellow sevco poster put up on here a gleeful post about 'fucking over the tax man' on the day of the FTT verdict. What is wrong with you peepel? Why cannot you see that a football club fucking over the tax man, in their own country, is wrong, very bad, not a good thing, nothing to be celebrated, the opposite of correct. Before you bleat on about the right to minimise tax, I think it is fair to say that the incredible lengths the old club went to, to avoid paying, to drag out the investigation have taken our game to a new low. In fact I would describe many of these actions as: Tawdry: cheap in nature or appearance, and that is being charitable. I posted on here about where this money, that you should have given to the government, might have gone if it wasn't on under the table wages and shredding companies (oh hang on you didn't pay them either) and was roundly boo'd by team sevco, in fact I think I bolied Kincardines pish (pleasing). Maybe it would have gone on an RC schools new prayer books or on new traffic wardens, or wasted on a railway tendering process. Or it could have gone towards saving lives, healing the sick, mending a cute puppies broken paw, putting a paedophile behind bars, who knows. The true truth is that it wasn't there because the; now, then and forever (except for the wee suicide episode) venerable, brand new - old club didn't pay its dues and that is, in my opinion: Tawdry: Shameful or indecent. Perhaps if you lot didn't spout so much pish, we wouldn't have to repeat ourselves and this wouldn't be such an anti-rangers thread if you stopped behaving like such total, total c***s.

I think you'll find that this is strictly speaking assmasterflabbergastary.

Great come-back from the "it was all just a nasty dream" school of deflection. Give yourself a pat on the back. But put your photo of Diana down and wash your hands first. My chip on my shoulder is cheating b*****ds who think that all is forgotten and all is forgiven. The mongolian clusterfuck of an ubershambles of the highest order of the ultra stramash that was the frothing, fitting suicide of your club will keep me smiling and live for a long long time in the memory. You need to start saying sorry before you can be forgiven and frankly it would take such an exquisitely crafted, perfectly formed apology to top all apologies to make any difference, I just don't think you are capable. And before you say we don't give a f**k, nobody like us we don't care etc, we'd never apologise for anything, that's at least half the problem. Stay dead, f**k off, where's my £20 you cheats.

No his antics do raise ones ire. And I am fuming that Clangers red card was almost certainly a direct result of his tantrumming and bad behaviour. But we're off topic. Finish snapping one off into your Parker Bowles scrap book yet Bendy?

Couple of things.... 1) Get that fucking H out my clubs name. Its one thing to to batter on about the diet old firm in Edinburgh or Utd used to be called tayside celtic (or fucking whatever) but leave us out of that pish. If there is one thing the Oh So Famous Aberdeen can claim it is a healthy loathing for both arse cheek. Its just your tough luck that your clubs (dead and undead) have made considerably more of an arse of themselves in recent history. The twisted narrow-minded lunacy that comes with thinking anti-sevco = pro cellik is so low IQ and perfect evidence for the inevitable sectioning and long term mental health treatment you will one day try to dribble your way out of. 2) Did you have some kind of memory forming hibernation during the last 12 months? Did you miss the part where a 9 figure sum was planked at the gates of Ibrox? Did you just put your fingers in your ears and sing Tina Turner when, unable to cough up the dough, your club got planted six feet down buried in a shower of final demand letters? Yes, yes the FTT of the BTC. Yes in that particular level of appeal two high court judges called Menzies and Findlay, found that old dead rangers were not liable for a proportion of the debt. But not an exoneration. Not a you owe nothing we're so sorry. Not a slap on the back everything is fine troops WATP*. Not even close to that. In any case the only tax expert on that panel and the tax authorities think differently. As the the HMRC motto goes "though shalt not get away with it" and we will see more on that in the future. Humour me and take your union jack shades off and put your flute down for just a moment. Look carefully inside your head (couldn't bring myself to look in there myself to be fair). Do you really think old dead club left no debt behind? Do you really think all that money was loaned to the players? Do you really think that if your are not one of ra peepel* you must be in the huddle? Are you actually reading this or have you just eaten your mouse mat and started masturbating into the royal wedding edition of Country Living? * as an aside I find the WATP mantra to be quite the most breath-takingly arrogant and objectionable thing in Scottish football. Apart form Neil Lennon of course.

Glad to see all that peace and goodwill, football in no mans land pish had been nipped in the bud. Apparently a colonel was charged in 1915 with fraternisation and conduct unbecoming for allowing the football stuff. Quite right too, I'd have shot him in a ditch, treason, no other word for it. These cheating, thieving b*****ds are gloating over the millions raised in the IPO when not so long ago they suicided themselves, did the Shanghai shuffle and skipped town on a debt worth 6.5 times the amount they have just raised. Since Charles Green is so keen on climbing the moral high ground and magnanimous charity gestures (see Utd in February) lets see him give back every penny to the creditors and HM Treasury who the dead club screwed. Perhaps a chunk should go to the SPL clubs for all the prize money they received while fielding ineligible players for a decade. Just a thought. If you want the history fine, it'll cost you £140,000,000 worth of abandoned debt. You want the titles, fine they come free when you settle the debt, except the ones that will be removed when you are inevitably found guilty of cheating of course. Don't let me see any warm, fuzzy, festive feelings of goodwill break out again. These two clubs (one dead / one undead) were and are a national embarrassment , a constant shame to our sport, our country and themselves. The sooner Chucky skips town having emptied the safe and padlocked the gate forever the better.

I liked this so much I greenied them both

alex thomson ‏@alextomoTOMOBLOG : RANGERS MICE OR MEN? http://bit.ly/Syq41f Expand Hmm, thought provoking. What say you sevco?