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Is that why Rangers went into admin, the BIG team gave the pishy little teams too much money? Or would it be that East Fife are a little team as they have little income and expenses unlike the old rangers that had large expenses and little (relative) income. £130m+ deficit says it all. East Fife are as far as I know solvent, which is more than can be said for Rangers.

The proposal from the SFL to chairman will require different %ages on different items. Accept Newco into league - 50% (but only where a vacancy exists, otherwise 75% to accommodate 31 members) SFL 3 or SFL 1 - 50% Waiving of the two year notice period for Dun* to resign - 66% (rule 12 explicitly states this) 12. NOTICE TO RESIGN MEMBERSHIP No Member shall resign, retire or otherwise cease to be a member of the League unless it shall have given not less than two full seasons prior written notice so to do, unless with the approval of not less than two-thirds (66%) of the votes cast at a general meeting of the League. HJ - I await your contradictions

The fact that you have a difference of opinion does not make my interpretation of this any less valid. I assume that you have legal experience and have run a company. If so you will know how articles restrict what can be performed by the officers of the company. Also Item 5 the word "league" in this context is organisation that is the SFL so how can 31 clubs be divided into 3 divisions of 10?????? In regards to not having to be in a division, Go and read the Articles again and tell me where is allows for a member to not be in a division, specifically 2.3 where the objects explicitly state that the organisation exists to provide a League Competition. These are the objects of the entity, ie what they exist for and must be fulfilled.

Letter sent to my club: Can we get the official position of the club regarding allowing Newco to bypass division 3 and division 2. I am hopeful that we are sticking by your original statement and voting Newco to SFL 3 or nothing. I am sure that you are aware that there are a number of people that are un-willing to support Scottish football if the integrity of the sport is disregarded, I am one of those people and await a response such that I can commit to this years season ticket or not. I think that we should be ensuring that we are absolutely clear that we are not viewing this as a demotion of an SPL club but rather the automatic promotion of a new club and that all talk of parachuting should be replaced with rocket boosting! I would also ask what the SFL are voting for on Friday as there is currently no vacancy within the SFL for another member and changing this will require a 3/4 majority and not a simple majority as per the SFL regulation 60: 60. SUSPENSION OF RULES Members shall havepower by resolution passed at a general meeting by notless than seventy fiveper cent (75%) of the Members to suspend any ofthese Rules for adefinite or indefinite period of time and may adopt by a similar majority for adefinite or indefinite period of time, temporary Rules in addition to or in lieu thereof. Additionally, the following rules will need to be changed or suspended: Rule No/Reason 5 Constitution of the league 3 x 10 teams 8 Payment of non-refundable application fee (unless this has already been done) 22.2 No audited financial statements are available Finally there appears to be a misunderstanding on the legal standing of articles of association whereby the assumption that there is nothing in the articles that prevents the automatic promotion of a club to the highest division is incorrect. Articles determine what the organisation can legally do and therefore if something is not explicitly allowed by the articles then it not within the power of the organisation to do this without changing the rules and/or articles (requiring a 75% majority).

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SFA have cunning plan - Newco finish first then no reconstruction, all the way up to a first division of 22 teams if they finish 10th in Division 1. Therefore no pressure on the refs etc.

Last post on the subject - Thank you for trying to save my embarrassment. I am not disputing your statements only stating the SFA articles of association and rules. A case of the SFA ignoring thier own articles? Nothing surprising there then, more an embarrassment for them not me.

Quote from SFA Document Licensing requires that those clubs in Membership of the Scottish Football Association meet specific standards. The standards are presented in the form of criteria under five headings –  Ground Criteria  First Team Football Criteria  Youth Team Football Criteria  Legal, Administration and Finance Criteria  Codes of Practice Criteria and also Article 35 "Clubs in full or associate membership of the Association or in membership of an Affiliated Association or an Affiliated National Association, as the case may be, shall comply with the requirements of the Club Licensing Procedures. Clubs failing to comply with the requirements of the Club Licensing Procedures, as aforesaid, shall, in the first instance, be referred to the Licensing Committee. If the intervention of the Licensing Committee is not sufficient to procure compliance, the matter will be referred to the Judicial Panel. Clubs failing to comply with the requirements of the Club Licensing Procedures shall be liable to a fine, to a suspension, to an expulsion, or such other sanctions as are provided for in the Judicial Panel Protocol, to a combination of these penalties or such other penalty, sanction or condition as the Licensing Committee or the Judicial Panel (as the case may be) considers appropriate in order to deal justly with the case in question". Is this just another example of the SFA not applying rules as required by their own articles?

Not according to the SFA website.... http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/football_document_libraries.cfm?page=2570

Pity the barnett formula is not applied to the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18205519 £179.7m for MOTD which is highlights only, no live games. Works out at £59.9m per year = £6.1277m per annum for scotland (10.23% of the Englund amount). Bring on the SBC with my TV money not going near the BBC - are you listening Alex????

SFA Licencing process can be found at http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/ClubLicensing/PartTwo-NationalClubLicensing/4.%20Core%20Process%20%282%29b.pdf Reading this document it appears that the SFA licencing process would not be completed in time for the start of the season.

I think we have to question the media's involvement in all of this. By and large they fail to see that Rangers were utilising offshore payments, double contracts etc. They do not investigate the running of the club after Whyte takes over (other than 1 BBC program near the end of his tenure) and here we are again with another owner with unknown finances, unknown backers and unknown resources and what are we hearing - put them in Div 1. Also SFA hang your head in shame, can you tell us that the owners of Newco are "fit and proper" and if so, can they tell us who in hell these owners are....... SFL also need to understand their own rules. 2./3rds needed to introduce temporary rules so this is what the "supplementary" elements of the vote will be but only after they have agreed to provide a team to the SPL as their own constitution states that there are three leagues with 10 members in each league and currently all spaces are occupied!!!