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Lennon was about 3 games away from being sacked. We were on a fucking horrendous run we were showing zero signs of getting out of that. His last game was away to Motherwell where he played Omeonga as a something before subbing him at half time, he played Porteous before he was fully recovered from his knee injury which he done again that night and we lost him for the rest of the season, and he had alienated half the fucking side. Lennons time at Hibs was likely over and he engineered an exit before he was sacked. Now he might have been aware that the Celtic job was going to be available, but he was likely done at Hibs regardless.

It's Heckingbottom. Happy to work with the staff there. Happy to work with a director of football. If you keep him away from transfers he will potentially be decent. He wildly underestimated the league after starting off on fire at Hibs and recruited players not good enough/who took too long to adjust to save him.

Have Stranraer attempted to join the shitness protection scheme yet?

1. I don't think you've understood what I've written if you think that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that the impact on Hearts is identical to a relegation from a full season. And that was as full a season as we were getting in the circumstances. 2. Weirdly I don't think that football should come second in a football league.

1. Hearts did finish bottom. It was a truncated league, but you finished bottom of it. The penny will drop when you rock up to Recreation Park next season maybe. 2. It's not just about prize money. That's my point. A 14 team league would be worse than what we currently have financially, and football wise.

1. The millions it will cost Hearts will be identical to the millions it would cost Hearts if the pandemic had hit 2 months later and you'd finished bottom. That's just relegation and it happens every season. I'm not going to deny that Hearts can consider themselves unlucky. 2. I'm saying that there are real world impacts based on what Hearts proposed for reconstruction. Ones that Hearts fans seem to be wilfully ignoring because it doesn't suit them. 3. You're obviously not very cynical. I am. And that's exactly what it looks like. I'm pretty sure that the new TV deal contractually must begin in early August based on the actions of the SPFL and the urgency for the decision regarding ending the season.

1. The new TV deal is higher than the current one. But it's not by that much. And it is with a backdrop of likely catastrophic drop offs in other income like sponsorship (both for league and individual clubs) corporate/hospitality sales, and also potentially crowds. There's going to be a fucking enormous revenue drop for everyone as there's going to be a hard global recession. Just waving that away isn't realistic. And yes the season finished early. But final positions were done on points per game which was about the fairest solution available. There weren't points left to play for. I'm not moaning about Hibs dropping a position because I accept that the reason that happened is because the remaining fixtures couldn't be fulfilled. 2. Overall losses are already catastrophic. Hibs seem likely to announce a large wave of redundancies amongst non playing staff by all accounts. Aberdeen seem to be on a similar path. You can't just handwave away asking them to take further drops in income and likely having to increase the number of people they are having to make redundant because Hearts feel hard done by. Clubs are going to try and protect their revenues. I think Hearts fans are completely oblivious on the consequences of revenue dropping for the 41 clubs without benefactors. 3. Budge didn't get any part right. She was given the responsibility to come up with something because if it was someone outwith Hearts and it didn't pass there would be accusations of a lack of effort. Consultation was non existent. She was told no to start with. She then presented the same plan another twice with the only changes being it was a fortnight later. A cynic might suggest she knew it wouldn't pass but dragging it out for as long as possible would maybe give a bit of leverage as it could interfere with the start of the league when beginning legal action.

Hearts would be subject to a minimum of double the prize money they could get in the division they were relegated to. That's not a hit. If crowds are allowed back Hearts would get much higher crowds than in the Championship. That's not a hit. The league couldn't be finished, the positions were set from points per game. The outstanding Rangers St Johnstone game saw 3.4 points awarded from it meaning my club lost a league position and a couple of hundred grand in prize money. And you've entirely ignored the other financial repercussions from the proposed reconstruction outwith prize money. Clubs in the top 6 would have 1 less home game. Clubs in the bottom 8 would see way lower crowds as 40% of their season was played amongst themselves and likely without many large away supports. This is without going into relegation places being increased if its temporary, or never being able to change it if it was permanent due to the voting structure. If there was a decent reconstruction proposal put forward clubs would have said yes to it. But the hit Premier clubs would have taken from the proposed reconstruction would have been bad for years down the line. So why should clubs have voted for that? The one which would have passed and met your criteria of sharing the pain a bit would have been a 12 team Championship. But oddly that was never proposed by Anne Budge despite it solving the issues for Partick, Falkirk, Stranraer, Edinburgh City, Brora Rangers, and Kelty Hearts.

Every club has taken a massive hit already. What you're proposing is for that financial hit being compounded so the worst clubs in their leagues aren't relegated, and also making the league worse. Which is not coincidentally why it failed to gather support.

They've aw been wanking each other off on Kickback and convincing themselves about whatever saves them. To summarise;They knew there wouldn't be a vote to end the league [emoji735] And that it wouldn't pass [emoji735] And that it would be overturned because of Dundee's vote being ineligible [emoji735] The **** dossier was going to both pass a vote and see the SPFL chief exec and lawyer emptied [emoji735] Reconstruction was going to pass. 3 different times [emoji735] Doncaster was going to force through reconstruction [emoji735] You'd think they'd get fucking tired of being wrong, but nope, every single time they talk themselves into the next one definitely working. They're the football equivalent of a serial shoplifter continuously walking into the same shop, stealing the same thing, and getting lifted every time. Fucking halfwits.

Name them. And explain why Hearts didn't suggest them in their proposals.

I think it's probably been prompted by the return to training and players coming off furlough, along with the government furlough amounts tapering down. We'll be back playing football in front of no crowds for the moment so no discernible increase in revenues for that. I don't see how we can sign players in this environment unless we agree informally with players currently at the club that they'll go back on to their original contracts with a year extension when revenue recovers.

August is when they're looking to finish this seasons tournament. There's already provisional dates. The SPFL will schedule one of the OF games for that point so that it's postponed till later in the season as Rangers still have their second leg to play.

The motivation to do so is that they outbid BT by around 10m a season. Both haemorrhaged subscriptions at the start of lockdown when there was no football on. Giving Sky an opportunity to re negotiate would have been a spectacularly stupid decision. If it couldn't start due to government imposed restrictions at the start of August, then you've got a decent argument for not accepting a renegotiation. Not starting it in August because you've decided to play another 8 rounds of fixtures, plus play offs (which would be including sides who wouldn't be able to field a team) doesn't seem like it's quite as good an excuse. Unless of course you think sky wouldn't care about potentially saving around 50m. Remember, just to allow clubs to sell their own games for streaming with no involvement from Sky required Celtic and Rangers to fall into line with other clubs and allow 5-6 home fixtures to be shown by them.

Aye, keep the young players under contract, but there will be no league for them to play in.

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10650 Revenue halved they reckon. Redundancies to come I'd imagine.

I'm pretty confident that something which done no harm to anyone would have passed easily. But it doesn't exist. Increasing the premier league size means a drop in prize money for each position, or the possibility of having less than half the current minimum if you finish 13th or 14th if you don't change the distribution. A 14 team league will generate less revenue for every side in the lower part of it than it does currently. That's half the league. What the clubs asking for reconstruction are looking for is for them not to bear the brunt of it. Instead they're saying everyone else should take the hit. In an environment where clubs are flush with cash that might have been possible. Now? No happening.

It is aye.

Actually like this idea. It's something I'd like to see introduced. 2021/22 seems like it would work for a time frame. Honestly, it does address lots of the issues people have with the 14 team proposal. Split isn't ridiculously early (3 games earlier than now). Sides would see a pathway to getting in the top 8 more than the top 6. Everyone plays the same number of games. Edit: just to clarify he's saying "playoff" when he's just meaning defining the final fixture.

Atmospheric, like the Nuremberg rallies. Tynecastle is a toilet. The seats are shite. The access is fucking hideous. And it's mostly populated by utter wanks.

From February to May? Nah. Hibs weren't in trouble under Fenlon fwiw, it took Butcher to enable that. Iirc we were 7th in the league when Butcher took over.

You do understand that clubs haven't had any income beyond what fans are putting in out of generosity for 3 months and will require it for probably at least another three? That's half a year's spending without any income other than what fans are paying. So I'd say that clubs looking to the very short term absolutely is what they should do. There's also the fact that the proposal is absolutely shite. A split in February will see any side in the bottom 10/14 but safe from relegation playing 40% of their season with absolutely f**k all to play for. How's that better than now where you have that possible scenario for 13% of the season?

If Hibs vote to promote Hearts without them kicking a ball in the league they were relegated to then it's not a good business decision because you're alienating a huge chunk of the support. Hibs, and everyone else, are existing due to goodwill from their supporters buying season tickets. Fucking that to get derbies in a league where a significant amount of games will be behind closed doors? No happening.

You're assuming that Celtic don't sign him young and play him in their colt team instead of him breaking through at Inverness. Because Celtic as it stands would be nowhere near good enough to field a colts team which would have a sniff of promotion.

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