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I'd say that the team bringing through the last Scottish player to win the Champions League being Queen's Park negates quite a bit of his argument there. There's absolutely nothing wrong with teams being semi professional. He's talking about England and the national league. That's the clubs 93rd to 112th in their football. Adjust Scotlands population for England and the sides at the bottom of our leagues would be 400th or so in their pyramid. Are the sides at that level professional to the extent he's talking about in England, I don't think so. They're at a much much lower level than the Scottish ones playing wise, and their crowds are worse. Us existing next to England fucking warps people's brains.

I think you're mental if you think people would rather pay Sky 30 quid a month for better production quality than a tenner or something to see their own clubs games instead. And I would guess Sky will have done that calculation as well. That's my point about Sky probably not going to be cunty about stuff in Scottish football. Getting less money from Sky makes Scottish footballs relationship with them way less symbiotic than Englands paradoxically. English football can't damage Sky because that's biting the hand that feeds them. That's not the case in Scotland.

Thing is though that Sky absolutely don't want Scottish football to start a new streaming model which succeeded without their involvement. That's a complete disaster for their business model because it lays the foundation for English football to do the same.

How are you c***s still going on about this. We're nearly into June and players can't even fucking train yet. Dozens of players have been released because clubs don't have any money because we've had to shut down football. Half the clubs in the country would be lucky to be able to field a matchday squad even if they were able to train and play, which they can't. At what point is the penny going to drop that there wasn't another option but to call the league. All this was fucking obvious months ago.

Saved me typing that. The entire reason why clubs are saying they can't play is because they don't have the finance to do it. If you're extending the top league then every club in the country would want in it because that makes them financially okay to play games.

It's their 5th time down and 6th year. Hibs have been relegated 4 times and had 6 years.

Yip, confirmed now.

It's worth bearing in mind that the collapse of Setanta wasn't due to the Scottish football deal where they were in profit, it was bidding stupid amounts for English football and not getting the required number of subscribers to pay for that which fucked them.

Hearts aren't taking a "massive shafting", they've been the worst team in the league and are relegated due to that. This happens every year to the worst team in the league.

Since 1875 moving back to the east next season I believe? Think its section 45. Glad to hear that if true.

She never even presented anything at the last meeting. They asked for opinions and were told by six clubs they didn't want it. It wasn't quibbling over details, it was "No, we don't want it".

That's the first time I've seen the Hibs TV aftermath. The **** taking defeat with their traditional dignity...

Got a degree in digging holes by the look of it.

Also, if he was in Saughton Hearts would be his local club.

Or take the SPFL court costs out of the prize money awarded to the team bringing it to court if its unsuccessful. The finances argument from Hearts point of view is mental fwiw. Even with the 3m drop Budge has claimed Hearts turnover would still be around 4-5x any of their rivals in the Championship next season. Suggesting that Championship clubs should vote to change that multiplier to 5-6x times is sure to go well.

Hearts stand to lose 3m according to Budge. Your turnover was around 15m. That's 20%, not 30%. It's also not coincidentally the exact same amount you'd have lost if relegated if Hearts had finished bottom as results suggested they would. What Hearts are asking for is other clubs to be disadvantaged to stop them being so. All about fairness and integrity. It's shite that sides will suffer. But the ones who are in that position would have suffered the exact same if they'd finished in the position they were in. Hearts are saying that other clubs who weren't as utterly shite as them should take those consequences. If it's a financial issue stopping this I'd suggest that Hearts pay 3m into a hardship fund for the clubs who are being punished for them being shite. Partick, Brechin and Stranraer can chip in too with the money they're not losing.

And used that year to give their young players a years experience, ditch all their highly paid players contracts, and still get their normal revenue meaning they were perfectly set up for the Championship season with money to spend. But I do hope that they keep whining about unfairness.

And it's not actually true. The Bundesliga clubs have huge price differentials in entrance prices. The cheapest tickets are much cheaper than here, but the most expensive ones are multiples of our most expensive tickets too.

So let's say rangers win both derbies, and their game in hand. They still needed Celtic to drop 5 points more than Rangers in the remaining 6 games. Celtic had dropped 7 points in their other 28 games to non Rangers opponents. Rangers to win the league would have required Celtic to win less than half of their remaining games when they'd won 26/30 up to it stopping. And for Rangers to win 9/9 when they'd won 21/29. Is that possible? Sure. Also wildly unrealistic? Aye, that too.

It's one of those things during times like this though that if you've got cash you'll be able to fund more with it than you usually could. Hibs built our east stand for a relative pittance because we built it following the 2008 recession. That meant materials such as steel was very cheap, and building companies were bidding basically at cost to stay in business for a bit.

Fair point actually, I've edited it out.

I'm the same with Derek Ferguson tbh. He obviously loves watching any football at all. Do you expect great insights from him? No. But he'll tell you who scored and have more enthusiasm about getting paid to watch football than anyone else on the programme.

And if they hadn't released the results of the vote at the deadline there would have been even more screeching from Gorgie and Govan. Let's say they said nothing except all votes hadn't been received. They would then have approached the three clubs to ask if they could expect to receive a vote from them. By not releasing the result it would have been entirely obvious what had happened to anyone involved. Everyone knew how everyone else was voting pretty much. Dundee would have ended up in exactly the same position, except there would have been no visibility of it which would have had the conspiracy theorists going off their nut.

Half the clubs in playoff positions won't have a squad beyond the start of June. Nor will they have any income for employing a new one. I'd say that's a pretty fucking huge reason why it can't happen.

Someone should tell him to take a seat.