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Big part of the day was the fact that after an hour, we needed to freshen the side up and we had someone of the quality of Baccus to call on. I've looked at many many St. Mirren benches down the years and been dismayed at what we had to call on.
Being able to introduce a boy with the quality of Baccus was brilliant. We're going to miss him.
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The Killie game is one where if we win, we're looking at being 3 behind with two to play.
It would be great to be in a situation we head to Parkhead on last day with an outside of reeling Kilmarnock in but we have our work cut out and need bit of fortune elsewhere to get into that situation.
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Shameful levels of graciousness in this thread.
Swithering between pleasantly surprised and disappointed really.
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4 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said:
It does seem some decency has broken out.
And we can all laugh at St Johnstone.
I think we can all agree that St. Johnstone being emptied would be the ideal conclusion to a wonderful season.
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I'm absolutely burst physically and emotionally after that.
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42 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:
Sell out The Shankly?
Thank you.
In all honesty and without picking on Dundee specifically, it's nonsense that there isn't a cash gate announced well in advance. A few folk, esspecially the older generation, get irritated at the whole online ordering process. A pet hate of mine in the post covid world is that clubs now actively seem to make it a more complicated process to order tickets - Hibs being a prime example along with Kilmarnock who demand a valid email address and phone number for every person in the party whose ticket you order, leading me to have to enter my details repeatedly to just push through the system.
There should always be an option as standard to either walk up, place money down and walk in, or buy a ticket on site to walk in rather than such a facility only being advertised 36 hours before kick off after negotiations.
And before anyone starts, I also fully include St. Mirren in that as our process of attracting walk up fans isn't great either. Our ticket office hours are very limited and on matchday the ticket office is always queued out. I heard before that it was a police Scotland recommendation to only have ticketed turnstiles but surely it always makes sense to have at least one manned cash turnstile for those who wish to walk up. If Dundee had announced this at the start of the week, there almost certainly would have been extra folk who would have committed to going on the Saturday compared to on a Friday morning when many will have already made other plans.
Again though, we are similarly awkward, a prime example being stupidly releasing away tickets for the Killie game in sections when Kilmarnock routinely sell the full away stand out even when they're pish, much less comfortably 4th in the table.
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17 minutes ago, Wee jeemie said:
No doubt you’ll bring a good crowd , but no danger you’ll sell out the shankly
There's definitely a shout of 2k plus.
We've probably sold most of the allocation of tickets out and the announcement of a cash gate should add a few hundred more in the away end. So you're looking then at about two thirds or three quarters full?
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I love that through this entire saga, the club who like to big up their self-proclaimed virtues of 'class and dignity' have come out looking the most tinpot of all by asking for fees back over a postponed game.
No idea how they thought this would be a good look on any level.
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14 minutes ago, NorthBank said:
Shaun Rooney has left Fleetwood. I would take him. Be difficult to replace Strain but Rooney is a good option.
Always been a fan of his and he the right attributes in that he's a good attacking full back who can play in 2 or 3 other positions if needed and a big unit of a guy. Perfect age at only 27/28 too. He's pretty much a stereotypical 'Robinson signing' on paper.
He's also about 4x fitter than Strain and you know you're getting 90 minutes out of the lad.
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5 minutes ago, smellthepaw said:
I personally haven't been impressed with any of his appearances thus far. I think the team looks weaker when he's playing.
We do have an option on Elvis. Problem is though, he's not shown anything in either an attacking or defensive capacity that shows he's cut out. For a wing back not to look strong in either sense worries me and it's absolutely ludicrous the sheer number of times he lets his winger past him, there's no strength whatsoever in his tackling.
I'd maybe keep him as backup but wouldn't be at all fussed if we let him move on.
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4 minutes ago, smellthepaw said:
I see Mallan at Salford has been released. Not sure how fit he is following a long term injury, though if affordable would anyone be up for him filling one of those midfield roles?
Absolutely not for me. Very talented player when he's on it but an injury prone passenger.
He wouldn't fit in a Robinson team at all.
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47 minutes ago, medals said:
Yes... he may be the keeper we have on a PCA, but we don't know that for sure.
We are also trying to get Kwon back and just maybe Strain, and/or Gogic will sign for another season.
Sutherland and Mandron might also leave for £big.
I think some of the younger lads will go back out on loan too - hopefully to Championship teams and get regular game time.
Hemming isn't signing a PCA as he isn't out of contract for another two years at Boro.
My preference is that on the whole, he's done a good job - better than I expected him to - but I don't like a first choice keeper being a loan deal and I don't think we should be sinking a lot of money into signing him permanently. He's done a good job but his ability with crosses gives me the absolute fear. I think if we're going to invest in a permanent goalie there's going to be better out there than Zach though I wouldn't be devastated if we reached an arrangement with Boro that saw him coming in full time with a low or no fee required.
Strain and Baccus are 100% gone. Robinson said as much without naming them specifically yesterday when he said he has players who have already indicated they won't be extending their deals and you can't imagine he's talking about Dunne or Grieve in that context. You could potentially add Gogic to that list too.
We will most certainly bring in 2 centre halves to replace the two (Dunne and Gogic) likely to leave and two CMs to replace the three (Baccus, Kwon and Flynn) that will depart. I'd imagine Fraser Taylor will take Flynn's place in the squad. Replace an old guy in the middle with limited first team minutes with a young guy in the middle who is now ready for some first team minutes when needed and relatively low wage to boot.
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3 hours ago, Lex said:
Love to see it. For all the talk of this being a ‘showdown’ the only result that would decide things is a Saints win. Dundee aren’t making up a five point deficit in three games, two of which are at ibrox and Tynecastle, if we get three points, it’s over.
A draw would certainly put us in the driving seat, but a two point lead with three games to go is far from decisive. A Dundee win would put them just one point ahead with a worse goal difference. Unlike Dundee, we could lose tomorrow and still finish 5th.
We haven’t won a game for over two months, it feels like a long time. We will need to win one of these last four to get top five, might aswell make it tomorrow and we can get the passports out.A fair summary, we can all but put it to bed with a win tomorrow.
A loss wouldn't settle anything though I honestly feel it would be disastrous mentally for us. But with a point in it and three games to go, it would still be all to play for though Dundee would have that massive psychological edge on us.
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1 hour ago, eindhovendee said:
Incredible that with the benefit of extra refs, cameras, time etc. that VAR still manages to get 26 decisions completely wrong.
That level of incompetence is quite impressive.
It's not just the fact that incorrect decisions are made. You will always have debate and interpretation of incidents leading to some degree of inconsistency but it's the almost farcical manner of the ones they get wrong.
Aside from the red card and failed appeal described above, the handball at County which the SFA plainly admitted they totally missed because they were looking directly at the incident but never saw it as they were looking for a shirt pull and the double hit for the penalty vs Aberdeen were both comically bad.
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6 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
Agreed. It's an absolute fucking shambles.
I can't even remember what I thought of the decision at the time but regardless the fact they've flip flopped on the decision months later after upholding the appeal and you've wasted your money is nothing short of disgraceful.
The only slight grey area was that Bolton was already on a booking and the foul in question technically was a booking in itself so he would have been sent off for a 2nd yellow.
The fact it was a straight red though, meant he automatically missed the next game away at Livi. The appeal to downgrade was made on the understanding that even if it was downgraded to a yellow, it would have been a second yellow but crucially, he would not have been suspended immediately for the trip to Livingston and instead would miss the home game vs St. Johnstone which is what St. Mirren were happy to accept and made the appeal on that basis.
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3 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
I noted that James Bolton being sent off against us was listed as one of the major f**k ups.
I can't even remember what it was for.
He committed a foul in the 2-0 win a few weeks back and was shown a straight red late on. We then lost Bolton for the game at Livi on the Saturday which we lost 1-0.
VAR told ref to go to monitor and ref did. Then upheld the red.
Then we appealed the red and the decision was not overturned.
Now we are told two months later that the decision was wrong. Despite it going through 3 levels of checks/appeal and the SFA and referee who issued the red incorrectly refusing to back down. To me the fact that it failed the appeal and then they admit they were wrong is the part that's absolutely unbelievable. At the very least, we should be refunded the money for the appeal.
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Dundee better worry.
Only four league games left for these VAR wrong decisions to even themselves out over the season so surely we're due to be gifted one or two utter howlers our way on Saturday.
In all honesty, we should be at least 4 points better off from those decisions that SPFL have admitted they got wrong which is truly frustrating.
On the plus side, we actually have justification for being the most moaning faced supporters in the league.
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11 minutes ago, K.T said:
Shaugnessy has done his Achilles I think. Beck is still injured. Haven’t heard any other players will be missing. Cameron wasn’t playing against Celtic so hoping he’s back for this.
Hopefully not, first time I saw him playing was in the cup game that we won on penalties in January 2023 when he came off the bench and looked superb and has been comfortably Dundee's standout every time I've watched them against us since.
Even in the Scotland U21s a few weeks ago at St. Mirren Park, him and Kieran Bowie (and Doig but he's already been there) looked like the two players I'd have said could kick onto the full squad in future.
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8 minutes ago, MenstrieSaint said:
Any clues who Crystal Palace like the look of ?
They were linked with Sutherland when the Chelsea/Man City story broke but it was pretty much looked over.
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11 minutes ago, Hendo said:
SPFL have confirmed we've been on the receiving end of 3 dodgy decisions -
Bolton's red card v Dundee (didnt affect result but meant he missed game away at Livi, which we lost);
Penalty we should have had for handball in the away Ross County game;
Penalty we should have had for foul on McMenamin v Hearts.
I now fully expect us to get everything going on Saturday, if it truly does "even itself out over a season".
The Bolton one is particularly annoying as the red was given, the VAR told the referee to go to the monitor and review as it was probably not a red and the referee stuck with the decision.
We then spent money appealing the decision and getting the red overturned....and it was fucking upheld!
So not only is the decision incorrect, the advice was to overturn and that was ignored, then there was an appeal to overturn and that too was ignored and now a couple of months later, it comes out that they got it wrong. How the f**k does that fly?!
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13 minutes ago, stu2910 said:
Find this baffling and all clubs seem to be guilty of it. No one is going to be sitting in the same stand as the away fans in any circumstances, so why can’t we just give you 3000 tickets and tell you to bash on. You’re more than capable of selling it in blocks if that’s what we or the police ask you to do, so why make it more difficult.
We've done the exact same thing to Killie the week after and I don't get it, especially as Kilmarnock have been consistently our best attended away support (apart from the arsecheeks) for years. Even when they have been shite they almost always sell the away end out.
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500 more tickets given by Dundee taking the overall allocation to 1800 - these will probably sell out too but unless that happens today or early tomorrow, I reckon we'll probably not ask for any more.
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Dragunov and Gunther already being teased to bring smashing f**k out of one another to the scale of audience it deserves and I'm looking forward to it.
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10 minutes ago, Pens_Dark said:
Superb. What was the initial allocation? Going to be a cracker with a good crowd by the looks of it.
Read that it was 1,300 given to us initially so we must be over the 1k mark sold now.
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The St. Mirren FC 2023/24 thread
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Posted · Edited by djchapsticks
If we finish 5th, the first game is played in the same week as if we finish 4th as we'd play in Europa League rather than conference league if we were 4th.
The difference is if we finish 4th, we are guaranteed another tie if we lose as we'd drop into the conference league which would then be during term time.