Howlin' Wilf
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5 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:19 hours ago, George Parr said:Wait - uncharacteristic? Did that team not win promotion that season?
Yes, but the post New Year performances were very much better than the early season ones.
There lies hope for this season then.
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36 minutes ago, sarti pooh said:
The league is gonna make grim reading once the teams below us have played their games in hand. I'm sure some will be playing each other so not everyone will be picking up 3 points but it's still gonna be a sore one.
These 4 home games are massive. It's got to be 12 points out of 12 for me.
We absolutely need it.
It's a tight league with many unexpected results. But you're right.
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58 minutes ago, The Moonster said:
It's money given for the running of the club. Brabco can't just pocket it.
This is certainly true. The money is for Dumbarton FC and will be payable to Dumbarton FC. Brabco have no board representation at the club and I trust John Steele not to write a cheque to them.
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6 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
Aye, in both of those games we created presicely ZERO clear cut chances. Thankfully in one of those games the opposition couldn’t hit a barn door or else it could have easily of been two 4-0 pumpings in the space of a fortnight.
It's clear where the problem lies indeed. I think the killer today was the early goal which was a pearler.
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1 minute ago, squeezeboxson said:
That result vs Partick isn't looking as good as it maybe did at the time... Why aren't we able to nick a 1-0 victory off them like other teams have?
We very obviously set up for a draw that day and got it. In retrospect we gave them too much respect and didn't give Montrose enough.
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Using your skill and judgement, guess which game was a draw and which was a 4-0 defeat.
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4 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:8 hours ago, Howlin said:It’s not about happy clapping, but results are the main measure of how a club is doing. Analysis is fine but I must admit, when the provider of an inch perfect set piece and the resultant scorer of the winning goal, quickly became targets of your criticism, I was left rather puzzled. Wedderburn has been amazing since he came in and I was delighted to see him score a rare goal. Forbes is slow but he is first choice for a dead ball and he can cross a ball.
Imperfection will never be eliminated at this level.
That’s four points from six from teams above us and I hope that this will provide some context in the recent criticism of Duffy and Smith. All clubs are struggling through this pandemic but when you think about how DFC is performing within the context of the clip I posted recently from the club’s 2019 accounts, there are additional pressures on Dumbarton when compared with Cove, Partick Thistle and Falkirk. I think we,re fortunate to have our management team.
it was very much the tactics that got us those four points.
I see we’re above Airdrie now. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Duffy is a better manager than Ian Murray but it does prove that we have had better results.Happy to give you the final word Wilf, but just to say that I don't think I've criticised Nat Wedderburn. What I did say was that I'd rather he and Ross Forbes weren't in the same eleven; that's quite a different thing.
Had they not been in the same eleven yesterday, then we would have been deprived of a goal that won the match for us.
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15 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
Please see above.
It’s not about happy clapping, but results are the main measure of how a club is doing. Analysis is fine but I must admit, when the provider of an inch perfect set piece and the resultant scorer of the winning goal, quickly became targets of your criticism, I was left rather puzzled. Wedderburn has been amazing since he came in and I was delighted to see him score a rare goal. Forbes is slow but he is first choice for a dead ball and he can cross a ball.
Imperfection will never be eliminated at this level.That’s four points from six from teams above us and I hope that this will provide some context in the recent criticism of Duffy and Smith. All clubs are struggling through this pandemic but when you think about how DFC is performing within the context of the clip I posted recently from the club’s 2019 accounts, there are additional pressures on Dumbarton when compared with Cove, Partick Thistle and Falkirk. I think we,re fortunate to have our management team.
it was very much the tactics that got us those four points.
I see we’re above Airdrie now. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Duffy is a better manager than Ian Murray but it does prove that we have had better results.
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Our result today was in large part down to some excellent goalkeeping.
I thought overall it was a decent performance. I don't think we sat back - it looked more that we were pressed back in that second half spell. Four points from Thistle and Cove. Happy with that.
Ref was honking.
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The streaming has generally been good but my stream was buffering when Sons scored today. Managed to back track and see it - more a problem at this end I think.
The commentary is pretty good but stream does lag a bit as others have said.
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On 28/11/2020 at 18:06, O'Kelly Isley III said:
Meanwhile back at the ranch Dumbarton rather contradicting those who thought we played poorly at Firhill last week.
FTFY
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2 hours ago, The Moonster said:
Stewart Petrie, Ian Murray or Ian McCall all ahead of Duffy if I had the choice.
All of whom would only leave their current posts for a bigger club or more money. Murray failed and was sacked by St Mirren in his first season. Latterly, in his spell with us, there were plenty wanting to get rid of him. In fact I recall quite a few who were suggesting Murray go and Steve Aitken be brought in.
McCall's side are three points ahead of us and both Montrose and Airdrie are two points ahead of us. Airdrie lost to East Fife on Saturday. There are calls on the Partick Thistle and Airdrie threads to sack McCall and Murray. Maybe they'd take a swap deal.
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1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
I think I agreed about not changing the Manager, Wilf, as the club can't afford to. But what a few of us obviously want is for HIM to change our style of play, and preferably before we have slid into serious trouble. I think that's a wholly reasonable request.
And to answer your question, Stewart Petrie of Montrose. But why limit us to League 1 ?Stewart Petrie, Like Jim Duffy would only leave that job for a club in a higher league or a club which would pay him considerably more. No need to limit to league 1 - who do you think we could realistically attract at this time?
Absolutely fine of course to have opinions on the manager's tactics but they won us a point on Saturday which I'm sure most of us would have taken pre match. Fine to say we were lucky this time, but IMHO we were pretty unlucky against East Fife and Peterhead.
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3 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
I think Cedrick has nailed it above. The club doesn't have a pot to piss in so we probably haven't the money to change manager.
That said, on the evidence of what we're seeing we may face a struggle to stay in this division and I'd like to think that the DFC Board might want to keep an eye on things, managerial reputations or not.We really don't want to be changing manager just now. We've got Jim Duffy FFS - a man with a proven record at this level. It's a tight league and were as near to a promotion play off place as we are to a relegation one having played just two home games.
If you had the pick of a manager in League 1 who would it be?
Calm doon everyone
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10 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
And we've never lost to Everton in European competition; a statistic of sorts, but a wholly irrelevant one. Context and perspective are fine, but for me the evidence of what I'm watching is more compelling, and at the moment grimly so.
I'll buy into the run of home games bit, or at least I would if we didn't play the exact same way as we do away from home. Is it too much to ask that Jim Duffy sends out a team intent on taking the game to the opposition ? We don't have the players ? Well, whose responsibility is that ?
Based on what we're seeing right now there will come a time when statistics don't cut it. And with Clyde having played two league less that might be quite soon.OK I take the point that XClyde have played two games fewer. They've also conceded four goals more.
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28 minutes ago, lionel wickson said:
I'll cheer you up, it's no goals in 5!
We've scored the same amount in the league as Clyde and they have David Goodwillie. We've scored 3 fewer than Plastic Whistle but they've had three more home games than us.....
Context....perspective.
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1 minute ago, cedrick1 said:
Fair point wilf. We now have a run of home games and a squad almost free of injury so Let’s see where we are in a month or so.
Indeed. Five out of our next six games are at home.
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49 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:
That's now zero goals scored in four consecutive matches, and whilst there were some chances created in the previous three, two of these were the Falkirk games when the games were effectively over.
Thankfully we do have some solid defensive performers and a decent (loan) keeper, although I'm still not convinced by Quitongo; for example, today Thistle right-back Williamson had the freedom of Firhill but mercifully his crosses were rank.
But it's further forward we are a shambles - no pace, no creativity, no playmaker to hold the ball or pick a pass...and other than the occasional (short-term contract) Frizzell flash when was the last time you saw a Dumbarton player go past an opponent with the ball at his feet ?
I'm probably in a tiny minority of the dwindling band of Sons contributors on here, but given that football is still notionally about entertainment I think I'd rather slide down the table having a go and losing 3-2 than watch the mince we're now enduring on a weekly basis.I believe in perspective. We have had five games away from home from which we have gained 5 points. We've had two home games, one against a team below us which we won and the other against the team which leads the league by four points, whom we met in midweek and who are full-time.
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4 hours ago, BallochSonsFan said:
Which goes back to the arguments Brabco were making and the massive gaps in the credibility of those arguments.
Moving stadiums does nothing unless you're getting a massive pay out and rebuilding on the cheap. Even then the money runs out soon enough and you're back to square one. The only thing that'll work for the club is increasing revenue. More fans through the gate. Those fans spending more. People hiring the stadium for non-football purposes. We could move to a brand new stadium tomorrow and it wouldn't make a bit of difference unless we knew how to make that new stadium work for us financially.
Brabco fed us fantasies about renting out pitches for strong money, getting people to take office space or hiring the stadium for functions and events. And if we're talking hypothetically then that's fair enough. All of those things can bring non-football revenues in to a football club. The problem is demand. Is there a demand in Dumbarton and the Vale of Leven for events space? Or football pitches? Or office space? And thats where the argument goes south because if there isnt the demand then there's absolutely no value in having the facilities.
We could make the current stadium work better for us. It would take a bit of money to upgrade. It would also take time to sell the stadium as a facility and to build up a regular client base. Things like the comedy club are important in that respect because you're getting non-football people down to the ground and showing them that they can host a function there and have a great time. So somebody from the comedy audience needs a venue foe a wedding, birthday or retirement party and they've seen that the stadium can be a really good events space. Somebody is there in hospitality and needs something for a work function and sees that it can be a good option for them. All of that takes time and it takes a degree of knowledge and experience to make work. It isnt a quick fix.
You do make some good points. Certainly there is going to be no demand for office space henceforth. Also Brabco fed us fantasies for sure. That's what companies wanting planning consent do. However, if we were to have a thriving spin-off function business at the Rock, earning a net profit of £20,000 per year (or nearly £400 per week, 52 weeks per year) , it would take 15 years to pay off the amount (£300,000) required now to just bring the stadium and environs up to current safety regulations. I understand that hitherto there was leniency on the required work, due to the possibility of the club moving to a new location.
It's Brabco and not DFC that is for sale. Brabco is a SPV to relocate DFC. There were two interested parties pre-lockdown. I can confidently say that if it were DFC alone which were for sale, those parties would certainly not have been interested ones.
Like everyone here, I just want to see the club survive and prosper. We need to consider all possibilities in pursuit of that goal.
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Today was a combination of a fairly solid defensive performance and a few generous slices of luck.
The positives? The keeper has been a real find IMHO and Carswell slotted in well beside Neill. Wardrop and Quitongo were decent enough. Wedderburn works hard. In the few chances we created, Frizzell looked lively but we're never going to get anything from Jones playing on his own up front. I'd have taken Jones off and tried Crossan up front for the last period of the game.
The game reminded me of a game at Easter Rd in the Championship where we nabbed a point from Hibs with Nish ploughing a lone furrow.
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We burgled the point.
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7 minutes ago, FifeSons said:
This commentary sounds like the world’s longest auction.
Lol. I don't think he realises it's not radio!
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On 02/12/2020 at 20:18, The Moonster said:
We're fine where we are. They can f**k off.
This excerpt from the club accounts, perhaps articulates that we're far from "Fine where we are".
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39 minutes ago, Jack Burton said:
They are available, you just need to purchase it from whoever the home team is you're playing.
Yes I know they're available now (Covid19) as I have watched several games. Under normal conditions you need to faff about with VPNs and I don't think many clubs at this level do it.
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Dumbarton vs East Fife
in Scottish League 1 General Chatter
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Eh didn't we have two home matches against every side that season?