Thanks The last part of that was true the way he had the team set up to get back in to it Just to many changes but fair play to him for turning it around and to Ardeer for making a game of it Can remember when Chris Strain snr was Ardeer manager and for 1 year only (i think) they had a very good team that nearly put Talbot out of the Scottish Cup at Beechwood Talbot scored a 93rd minute header to stay in it and went on to win the replay Anybody else remember that game? I am going to take a mad guess and say 22 year a go