PauloPerth

Wow. Imagine being completely outfought in a vital relegation match by a team with absolutely nothing to play for who are a notorious shower of no-shows. Imagine watching that first half and sticking the same 11 out after the break. “You’ve got 15 minutes to improve or your off..” aye cos the previous 45 minutes of shite weren’t enough Craig?! Imagine keeping 3 centre backs on when you’re desperately chasing a match and you’re looking wide open to the counter anyway. Imagine Matt Smith getting several international caps for a country that’s qualified for major tournaments. We have to hope County lose every match. That late goal might prove to matter if it comes down to GD so at least Stevie May appeared to give a f**k and kept at it.

Agree!

With County’s recent resurgence, pulling someone else back into it could be our biggest hope. Hadn’t realised you play County next, which is about the best fixture possible should we win tomorrow, but in reality Hibs would need to lose every match and both County and Saints win 3 apiece… You’re pretty safe I would say.

Might be worth a go as Hibs didn’t look comfortable against the pace and energy of Sidibeh last time round. Though I haven’t been too impressed when Adama and Benj have played alongside each other so far, so think it’ll be Clark with Benji kept as an ‘impact’ sub. I know the manager describes it thus, as do the media and various Saints fans online, and I’ve sat and watched our last few matches trying to be convinced, but it 4-4-2 all day long for me!! Or 4-4-1-1 when Clark drops in.

Big game for us, 3 points a bit of a must. Really hope Hibs have downed tools and have minds on their summer holidays. Mitov Keltjens Gordon McGowan Gallacher Wright Phillips Smith Carey Sidibeh Clark

The last 4 pages of this thread make me sick. Some absolute no mark clubs have had incredible seasons by their own usual dugshite standards; st Mirren, Dundee and Kilmarnock, with lots still to play for. You’d think they’d be talking about their near rivals in the table, and when they play etc, yet all fans of the three of them want to talk about is when/ where they play rangers and Celtic, and where they’ll get to win the league.

Do you think that’s the case? I’d be surprised if we’re that organised to be honest. I think it’ll likely be a case of get the season over with and then take it from there. County’s win on Sunday not only puts us under pressure, but also means even if we do stay up, it’s likely to take to the last game of the season to confirm. Other teams can pretty much start their preparations for next season now, whereas we’re going to be 5-6 weeks behind. The play-off will hinder things even further should we end up there. Possibly Levein, having never won anything as a player or coach, has the championship trophy firmly in his sights, but I’m not sure how interested in staying he’d be if we go down. I wonder if we might see Kirk as his own man, meaning we’ll basically have the Brechin City manager in charge.

He’s had a brilliant season overall. Must be really satisfying for where he is now and where we are. Especially with that suitcase full of money we had to pay off his contract with!

Yes you’re probably right. Personally, I guess I’ve lost a lot of faith in the club to identify and attract good players, so sticking with one who's done okayish, compared to others, feels like a safer option than whatever we might sign as a replacement. Probably pessimistically, I can’t see us going out and signing 10-14 better players than what we have, so getting 5-6 and keeping the better ones out of the current group feels more realistic where we are right now.

Yes, quite. The world of Scottish football is a truly bizarre place.

Haha!! All those fannies on the first few pages predicting St Johnstone to finish bottom. Jokes on them when we comfortably secure 11th place.

Keep: Mitov, Wright, Gordon, Phillips, Franczak, Sidibeh, Sinclair, Steven, Ferguson possibly on the right deal: Carey, Sprangler, Clark, McGowan release: Keltjens, Robinson, Richards, Considine, Gallacher, Olufunwa, Maclelland, Smith, Smith, Crawford, MacPherson, Kucheriavyi, Kane, May, Kimpioka Obviously not going to happen due to some still having contracts with us etc, this is just based purely on starting from scratch.

In all seriousness in what’s likely to be a few tight matches coming up, Crawford coming on in the last 10 minutes when we need a goal might be worth a go. In that situation he’s probably a bigger goal threat than either Connor or Matt Smith, or Kucheriavyi.

Ali Crawford coming onto score a late winner against County to seal our safety is the stuff dreams are made of.

Really hope Phillips isn’t badly injured. Going into the post split battle with a midfield of Smith, Max, C Smith and Gallacher would be less than ideal.

I’ve always felt why the f**k would you want a season to peter out in 9th or 10th when you can have the excitement of a play-off match to enjoy…

Let’s just leave it there

Aye, forgot that creating openings from shots from around the box don’t count these days. Pretty sure we created one for Clark from the edge of the box that he volleyed over the bar. The Dundee game he had one rolled into his path from Sidibeh where he was clean through and rolled it wide.

First half yes he was as anonymous as most of our players. After HT he had that shot you mention then was involved in a few 1-2’s and passages of play and looked to be playing the ball forward far more than usual. We had the momentum at that point, made the sub then around that time it died and the match became more even. Feels like three years of mediocrity are taking their toll on Saints fans here. It wasn’t a good performance by any means, but we had several decent opportunities and were playing a far better side in horrendous conditions which probably affected the level of entertainment on offer. Basically, we’ve been far worse over the last few years. I’m not saying it should be accepted, but we just need to remember what the aim is here since Levein came in from where we were; stay up. And that’s it. We know we’re not a great side, and are low on confidence, but every defeat we get the same reaction as if it’s a huge shock. That Kilmarnock squad has been gradually built up over a couple of seasons and enhanced by additions each window. Just about any one of Van Veen, Watkins, Vassell, Armstrong, Kennedy, Mackay-Steven, Stewart would probably be a stand out for us. And let’s not mention options in defence. We are a squad cobbled together by three different managers over the past year.

Well done killie, comfortably the better team. What a strong squad they’ve built, even the bench has some ballers on it we’d kill for. Other than Mitov, I don’t think there’s a single St Johnstone player starts in that killie team. For a team at a similar standing and we don’t have one single outfield player better than them just feels criminal. We were poor first half and could have subbed anyone, but we seemed to be doing well in the first 15-20 after HT and were on top and subbed off Max, when for once I actually thought he looked positive and had started to make an impact since the break… unless he was injured? Though I hadn’t see any sign of it. I know he’s getting played deeper than his best position, but I’m afraid Clark is another empty jersey since coming back from injury. Add him to Robinson, Gallacher, Smith and probably others in just turn up and run about a bit to look like you’re playing contributions. Really poor goals to lose. Mitov pulling off a worldie 1v1 save then not paying attention when the corner smacks off the crossbar sums up the amateur shit show we are a lot of the time. From our inability to play throw ins, to the opposition easily retaining possession at throw ins against us, to Smith’s inability to strike a dead ball yet still taking many of them…

I love your optimism. We only got a bit over that for our biggest talent in a generation. I think we’d sell him for £250k sadly.

You still doing you tube videos Gordon?

Fucking Minsk. We knocked out Rosenborg which was a huge achievement, then went away to Minsk and won 1-0. We didn’t play well against an absolute rabble of cheats, but in the end they went through after winning the penalty shootout. That was the first time in the history of St Johnstone FC that we lost a home European tie. A record we’d proudly kept in tact against Hamburg, Monaco, Eskisehirspor, Rosenborg amongst others.. then lost it to fucking Minsk.

I would appreciate Dundee using either one of the following to announce whether the game is on or off next midweek:- I think rangers fans would appreciate a bit of light hearted banter over the whole thing..