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Next non-Old Firm title winner
SelkirkSaint replied to Richey Edwards's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Any diddy team winning the league has to start by being the best of the diddies. By quite a bit. Don't lose to the other teams and it comes down how you do against the OF. A good team could push the OF but not if they're losing games to Hamilton, Ross County and whoever else. Drop less points against the diddies, have a couple of good results against the OF and you've given yourself a chance. -
A Photographic History Of Scottish Football
SelkirkSaint replied to Mon Dieu's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Celtic 0 St Mirren 3 and nobody has mentioned the Cockles Wilson supporters' bus. Half the bus had money on St Mirren to win 3-0 at 80 to 1. A pint at the time was about 80p. There was a lot of beer to be won. One small section of the Saints support praying that we didn't score any more goals. Had the chances to score several more. Nerve wracking for some. -
A Photographic History Of Scottish Football
SelkirkSaint replied to Mon Dieu's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
St Mirren did ask for it to be changed. Not because of the distance but because of the capacity at Muirton at that time. It was 15k and our chairman didn't think it was large enough. He expected St Mirren, and definitely Aberdeen, to bring more than 7500 fans each. The request was for a ground with a larger capacity, it was the SFA that chose Parkhead. Th e attendance was about 18k, so the move didn't get the expected crowd. -
Wonder how much of a loss The Rangers made yesterday. They would get half the crowd less Brechin's costs. A wee bit of prize money for getting into the next round. Would that even cover a winning bonus for the players? Will we now see the heated balls being used to guarantee a home tie in the next round?
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Leaving it as 'unawarded' just leaves a space for them to claim the honour. Stripping the title and awarding it to the runners up makes them official, cheating LOSERS. It's not a satisfactory way of doing it as they cheated every team they played on their way to the trophies, but awarding it to another team helps remove their claim. I would rather see it recorded that they lost the titles to other teams (because of cheating) rather than they were just stripped of the title. A definite 'You Lost'.
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Stripping titles. I know this has been discussed before but adding my view. Initially I thought stripping titles from Rangers was enough. I didnt think the titles should then be awarded to the runners up. Being told St Mirren had now won the league cup in 2010 would be completely flat. However, given the attitude from Rangers fans that they will continue to claim their 'victories', I've now had a change of mind. All cups should be awarded to the runners up as a 3-0 result. The re-written league tables should show Rangers with a 30 points deduction for cheating. Removing their titles isnt enough, they should be seen as having 'lost' them. Show them as losers in every competition they cheated in. Record them as losers in the history books for ever. This would be far more embarrassing and far more humiliating for them. A far more just punishment.
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In the 80's (I think) Rangers got to the league cup final with ALL of their games played at a neutral venue. Cant remember all of the teams that they were drawn away to but pretty sure Meadowbank was one of them. I'll amend that. they did have a couple of home draws but games against Cowdenbeath and Meadowbank were moved.
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If Cockwomble and his pals had just followed the accepted rules then this could all have been sorted weeks ago. New club sevco could easily have applied and been accepted into div 3 long ago. And I think most fans would have accepted that. Now, thanks to all of his bawbaggery, there's a reasonable chance that they wont be playing anywhere next season. The man that may have finally killed off senior football in Govan is Cockwomble himself. That would be such a fitting epitaph to his career.
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After the SPL vote I was happily looking forward to the new season. More than I have for a while. The whole 'sevco to SFL1' debacle then had me going in the opposite direction. Possibly turning my back on Scottish football for ever. Now I am starting to feel optimistic again. Not quite as excited as I had been but getting there. Just have a wee niggle about what crap will be tried next.
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Elgin statement "The Directors of Elgin City Football Club have continued to discuss the present crisis facing Scottish Football and have carefully weighed up all the possible scenarios and their outcomes both for Scottish Football and Elgin City FC as a viable club. The club have reached the decision that it cannot support the proposal for Rangers Newco to be directly admitted to Division 1 but will support entry to SFL Division 3 in season 2012 / 2013. The Board thanks the supporters and other interested parties who took time to express their views to the Club during this testing time for the future of our game."
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honestyinsport web page has voting as following. NO Dunfermline Morton Raith Rovers Annan Berwick Clyde Peterhead Stranraer Arbroath East Fife Cowdenbeath POSSIBLE NO Stirling Albion Ayr Falkirk Hamilton Livingston Partick Thistle That's 11 No's plus 6 possible No's. I would expect most of the possibles to be No but there is still room for late bribing and bullying. With 2 abstentions the proposals need 15 votes to proceed. (Dont know what happens in a 14-14 tie. Is there a casting vote by Longmuir?)
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So are newco now properly SFA registered and able to play these friendlies that are being talked about? The Hawick RA website shows the game as being against Rangers FC. A quick check shows that the game was arranged back in May when Rangers did indeed still exist. Obviously haven't changed the opposition name.