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A mate of mines who lives on Sandeman street also texted me earlier to say that he saw a young lad in barca trackies and a guy in a suit speaking spanish to each other outside Dens this afternoon. I originally thought he was just talking the piss as that's his style, but maybe there might be something to it...

Well, fingers crossed. But bear in mind this is Dundee FC we're talking about. If there's a way to turn a winning lottery ticket into a kick in the teeth we'll generally find it.

It's not ideal to be honest. But, given that Bennett has refused to sell Dens (so we'd likely have to pay well over the odds and make it worth his while if we were dead set on getting it), redeveloping the south enclosure could be tricky given that it's apparently built on landfill, and I'm pretty sure the main stand has some listed building status making it difficult and expensive to modernise. So, all in all, a brand new stadium would probably work out much cheaper than buying Dens then razing and rebuilding half of it. Not to mention that the folks who'll own the new stadium (if it does actually happen) are the same ones who have majority control of the club, so that'd surely make any rent dispute very unlikely. (I'd fucking hope so anyway)

I don't pretend to know their business plans, but until I see signs of either malice or incompetence, I'm not going to panic. They (unlike the previous owners you mention) seem to actually have a head for business. What do you propose we do instead? Boycott the club? Look, I love Dens park and I have over two decades of memories from there, both good and bad. But building a new stadium with the possibility for ancillary income that it could provide, is a much smarter option than pissing away quarter a million a year on upkeep and rent for a crumbling old stadium, with no room for expansion, who's owner won't sell to us.

But going by their own description of themselves they're a private investment company focusing on longer term investments and aren't looking to make large short term profits for shareholders. Maybe the gains they're looking for aren't just financial, but also the practical knowledge they gain of both doing business in the UK, and within the sporting industry (both of which are new territory for the company). They're not a charity and I don't expect them to bankroll us as such, but they're hardly gonna be able to asset strip a football club with little to no assets are they?

Because when they first picked us up, they got in for pennies relative to the possible potential considering the history of the club and a possibility of building up a bigger fan base. Not that I'm a believer in the "sleeping giant of Scottish football" line that we've heard often, but we do realistically have a claim to being one of the 10 biggest clubs in Scotland. With good management on and off the field (something we haven't had in a few decades), I don't see why we couldn't push for top six on a consistent basis considering St Johnstone have managed to do it on fewer fans and less historical prestige. Add in the fact that Scottish football as a whole has the potential to be a lot bigger and better than it currently is in terms of global positioning and branding. That, and the fact that we're their first foray into owning and operating a professional sports club. A small basketcase club with potential and a fairly cheap buy in, isn't really that crazy or risky an investment.

My current 30 minute walk up to Dens is about to be replaced by either a 90 minute walk or over an hour of bus journeys (probably costing about a fiver). Gutted isnae even the word. I'm not that bothered by the idea of moving stadium in and of itself, but why the f**k do they have to put it over at the shite end of the city to be surrounded by Industrial Estates, a country park, and fucking Dryburgh?

Wrong Dundee team, he's meant to be signing for the dabs.

Welcome back to the big boys league. You're completely within your rights to write a letter to John Nelms explaining to him why Hibernian aren't a "Category A" team (and are actually equivalent to smaller teams such as Hamilton Athletic and Ross County) and should thus receive the "category B" classification and cheaper £22 tickets if you like.

I was at the front of the Bobby Cox and could smell it for most of the first half. I just figured it was the smell of fertiliser wafting in off the fields.

Based on last nights showing I cant disagree with you on any of that tbh. But before that game I'd have been pretty hesitant to play two relatively inexperienced young CB's in a derby (had the other options been available). That being said, having seen both those young lads in a big match now, I'd chose both them over Julen, and maybe even McPake (like you said) depending on how well he manages when he finally comes back. Would still have Ghadzalov on before Waddell though, I think. Now that I think about it, I worded my initial post badly and totally failed to convey my meaning.

If you're referring to the 5th and 6th choice comment, I was meaning it in regards to if they were healthy and/or available for the tie, McPake, Julen, Ghadzalov and O'dea would probably have been picked before them in the team sheet.

I'm not massively worried about the CB's making a couple of small mistakes as they're still quite young and inexperienced and that's going to happen at times. I think (on paper at least) they're are our 5th and 6th choice for that position, and they performed as well as could be expected IMO.

IIRC he, alongside Chisholm and HMRC, voted to reject the CVA and have us liquidated instead.

Surely to f**k at this point we could offer him a cheeky wee 1 year 'pay as you play' dealie.

The c**t club, and their c**t fans, can make like a c**t and get fucked. Sincere* apologies to anybody offended by the obscenity contained within this post. .*not sincere.

Well when we were struggling to save our club during the administration periods and after, there have been numerous cases of arabs taking "the banter" way too fucking far. One case involving young Dees packing shopping bags in asda for donations to DFCSS, only to have some arab b*****d show up who thought it would be oh so fucking hilarious to sing songs about Dundee being shite while throwing monopoly money at the boy. Or the time when a gig in town was happening and prominent arab involved with a certain dundee band, used the sight of a man in a DFC t-shirt as reason to incite the united supporters in the pub to sing "united songs" to humiliate the guy, which lead to the guy being hounded out the pub by a group of utter fucking idiots acting like a barely controlled pack of fucking dogs. To the literally hundreds of the c***s who thought it perfectly fine to chant about "Bobby Cox In His Box" during a derby game. To the Club Organisation itself blatantly lying about their players assault of a fellow professional and claiming it was somehow actually the fault of the man who was bitten, because our fans were being "racist". The club who's fans were on twitter last week verbally abusing a teenage Dundee player over a possible career ending injury he'd received. To the hundreds of their sick fans who found it very funny to defend their rapist b*****d player by singing "David Goodwillie, He'll shag who he wants" on many occasions. Or when their fans were celebrating on social media over finding out a player of theirs had sucker punched a fellow professional in the back of the head and left him bleeding on the ground in another city while taking off in a taxi. If they went bust I'd obviously feel sorry for some of the folks who work there and would lose their jobs, and a fair few of their supporters who are decent guys. But would I feel any kind of remorse to see hoolies tears become real and permanent at the thought of losing his club forever, considering what I saw him have done to a guy in the aforementioned gig for nothing more than the crime of supporting another football team? Not a fucking chance. If the Monopoly money guy who abused a kid in asda over a football team was himself upset at the loss of his team, I'd laugh my arse off at that. That club and their fans don't just cross the line, they aren't even close to being aware of the existence of a fucking line. For all of the endless gloating, arrogance, and abuse, that we've had to listen to from them over the last decade or two. If they were to suffer down the lower leagues for years then go bust, I'd celebrate that almost as much as I did Maggie Thatchers death.

Nae worries chief.

And what did we get out of that period of domination? not a fucking thing.

I don't believe I'm letting any bias affect my judgement when I say this, but I thought both teams were equally fucking pish in the first half.

FFS, bad to worse. That's become clear now, was just surprised that nobody had said anything about it at the time of my post.

While the moaning's happening, am I the only one who thinks it's a bit shit that some of our fans reportedly wasted £2,500 on that tit Wagners "appearance" today when there was a collection going on outside the stadium for a local foodbank that often struggles to stay stocked and/or funded?

I can scarcely believe you've got enough brain cells to draw a fucking breath, yet here we are.

Nothing confirmed beyond the Ross County game being £24