Dons_1988

I basically said exactly this in the match thread. I’ve been on a similar journey with him as you. He’s undoubtedly come on a long way from the start of the season. I don’t think he was helped by almost inadvertently being painted as a ramadani replacement, which he is not. But he’s beginning to look a really classy midfielder at times.

To address your previous post, Kenny miller made a very bad argument against VAR. That particular incident was an example of VAR working well. I have never said it’s completely useless and I’ve always acknowledged that it will improve the accuracy of decision making. The assessment needs to go beyond individual incidents though. The speeding example is a false equivalence, people still speed but the technology is working because (I’m assuming) people speed less and as a result accidents reduce and thus lives are saved. That is an achievement in the case of traffic control and public safety, but we’re talking about sport here. If the goal of VAR was simply to achieve an incremental increase in decision making accuracy, then it’s been a success. Let’s be honest though, that wasn’t the goal. At the heart of it the goal was to try and remove controversy and noise around decisions and thus pressure and scrutiny on referees. To improve the reputation of the spectacle through accuracy of decision making. To remove a perception that refereeing decisions are costing teams success, costing managers their jobs etc. It has achieved none of that, because those perceptions it was trying to address were always wrong. And it turns out in a huge number of cases, a ‘right’ decision simply doesn’t exist. If anything, the technology has made scrutiny on decisions worse than ever before and it has made watching football significantly worse. So the simple view is - is the money, time and resource going into this worth the benefit, which can only really be seen as a small uptick in accuracy

Always worth reminding people that the ‘technology’ is a few cameras and a guy watching videos.

As much as last night was a good laugh, couple of serious points. Acknowledging the caveats of dead rubber and opposition (sorry livi), polvara at times was a joy to watch last night. He’s actually a really good footballer the way he uses his size and moves the ball about the pitch. He struggles to put this into 90 minutes yet but it’s an incredible progression from him. Im putting a marker in the ground now that I don’t think sokler is or will be the answer to miovski leaving. I have never really seen what others seem to in him. I don’t believe just giving him more game time will equal a big improvement. I am more than happy to be wrong.

It really isn’t Luddism. If the technology is not sufficient to address the human element of failure OR the fact that it’s trying to address subjectivity and interpretation, then the technology doesn’t work. That is not a fundamental opposition to ‘technology’. Although I will acknowledge @velo army point on value for money re goal line technology. But removing the cost/value, no one would have a problem with the technology itself. And I said it’s starting to feel like vindication as the wider football world seems to be slowly coming round to this simple fact.

I very much doubt the PL clubs will vote to remove it, and in any case I believe the league could veto it anyway. But that doesn’t mean this isn’t significant. I don’t like it but whats happening there will influence us here. There now seems to be near universal recognition that this thing is at best severely flawed and needs revamped in its implementation. This does feel like a bit of a vindication tbh. It’s almost like being anti technology that isn’t capable of achieving the outcome you set out for isn’t ludditism, it’s just practical sense. Case in point - there wouldn’t be a single argument against goal line technology being implemented as 1) it’s quick and 2) it actually fucking works.

This. This. This.

Good performance tonight but think we can all agree that 47 points and -4 goal difference is an embarrassing tally for any serious Scottish top flight side.

Fatboy forehead has had his chance and failed miserably, let’s be honest.

This is why you should wait until the end of the season for young player of the year awards

Getting that past VAR requires players of a continental standard imo so this makes sense

If this VAR call costs us 7th then Alan muir, the SFA and f**k it Willie collum too will see us in court.

VAR just trolling now.

I’d say 5th place vs the next best uefa coefficient in the league in a playoff would probably be the most fair way for it to be decided.

Oh wow. That is GREAT news.

No no no, wouldn’t want that coming down to a double hit penalty missed by VAR.

Quite clearly not an acronym though. No wonder you got sent to the pit.

Would really depend on whether they played a high line, counter-press style and had a charismatic and amicable style in press conferences, for me.

It would be a more accurate statement to say that every club has an element of its fan base that will prioritise success on the pitch over just about anything else. The sweeping statements about ‘fans’ is always frustrating to hear from (presumably) other fans as it’s used by media and sometimes clubs to dismiss ‘fans’ as one populace acting in a daft and irrational way. E.g. don’t consult ‘fans’ on implementation of VAR, because ‘fans’ don’t know what they’re talking about!

What?

I presume the nerves/anxiety about this one is why there’s no thread yet. The race for 7th is hitting fever pitch and hopefully leven and the lads can hold their nerve. Livingston are seeking a cracking 6th (SIXTH) league win of the season so should not be underestimated here. Aberdeen City and shire awaits and expects.

It’s not an unfair view and you have the right as a fan to not want that for your club and if you were the person in charge of hiring a technical director you’d also be perfectly entitled to take that stance. However, malky McKay being employed by hibs isn’t my issue. In a hypothetical world where hibs fans accepted that his apology was enough and the board felt the same then it’s really nothing to do with me. How malky McKay rebuilds his life and career after what happened is just not my concern, and I’m not going to make any assumptions about how he conducts himself now. Unless you are suggesting there should be a mechanism from the authorities to actively deny him certain roles within football based on his history, but that’s an extremely murky road to go down.

I have to say, and I don’t mean this as a critique of your view at all, but I just don’t see it the same way. Where do you draw the line at the level of contrition required to allow him to work again? Who am I to make that judgement? The comment about other peoples texts may be ill advised in an apology, but is it totally unfair? If someone published all my private messages from the past 10 years then could it cause me lasting embarrassment? Probably. Not what he’s done but someone would find something. I feel hibs fans have every right to express their views on this, and I may be more opinionated on it if it was Aberdeen. But I can’t bring myself to be overly moved by it every time he gets a job. I think his career has undoubtedly suffered from the reputational damage, you think not enough I guess but I don’t feel like it’s for me to judge.