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The McCann and Weighorst years were entertaining as a kid, the daft years under Marrs were brilliant, but almost killed the club, then we have had a decade of misery. Hartley did well initially, but last season was poor, and this season will be worse. He cant change a game, he is too defensive and seems to be delighted with draws. I genuinely fear for us this season.

Last season we drew far too many games, this season, we have played Hamilton, Killie and Rangers, the three worst ranked clubs in the league from last season. Realistically Rangers will do well, but we have 2 points from 3 game. Is that progress? Its just the exact same nonsense as last season. I know that Hartleys fanboys think he is some up and coming great manager, but be honest, last season was a disappointment, and this season will be significantly worse. Hartley has not progressed as a manager, we have not progressed as a club, these arent good times to be a Dee.

Happy with that performance then?

Utter shite again. We played quite well up until Killie equalised, then we were dreadful. Game against Rangers we were timid against them, Hartley yet again bottled it, Hamilton at home was dismal, Motherwell away was pretty poor, and today was shite. Hartley out, useless clueless twat.

Cant believe we have sold him for peanuts, absolute joke.

Aw jesus, what a few weeks its been. Really not looking forward to this season now.

I wasnt there last night, but I do agree that a section of Dundee fans just get on the players backs for 90 minutes. Something I have never done. Its probably the least enjoyable thing about fitba, the constant negativity from the stands. I dont see any harm in stuff on message boards, or pubs, but to boo and jeer players achieves feck all.

Apparently not being a fan of Hartley means your an Arab, or worse. Hartley has done a good job, but thats it, lets not think he is great, exceptional, etc because he simply isnt. Last season, how many draws did we get against ten men, how many games did we fail to achieve what we expected, we didnt compete as we should have. We had a decent season, and for comparisons sake, lets look at Utd, they had a dismal season, we won three games more than them, is that good enough? Hartleys negativity cost us from finishing in the top 6 IMO. Im not impressed with his signings this season, I hope Im wrong, but two bit part players from ICT and a guy released from Killie, cmon thats not great.

So this is acceptable then? Someone can support DFC, but not be a fan of their manager, its quite possible.

Dundee are almost certainly out of the cup, and its not even August yet, absolutely comical. FFS, what shite will Hartley spout this time.

Its going to be a long hard season. Well done Hartley, great manager.

I wasnt impressed with Hartley last season, and nothing has changed. We are far too negative, I doubt anyone can deny that. Signing two bit part players from Inverness, and an unwanted Kilmarnock player isnt exactly going to lead to great things.

Its too early for negativity, but Hartley is a twat. Poor signings, we need Harkins playing, negative style of play. Cant stand Hartley.

Stewart is a good player, and will be a miss to Dundee when he leaves. But I do think he is over rated, for every great goal he scores, he has a handful of games where he does nothing. Id be happy to sell him if we got a good offer this summer, if not, theres no point letting him go for peanuts. If he does go to Ibrox, he will be a bit part player if they start spending decent money on signings to try and compete with Celtic, although that may be some time away.