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Dev have a day off mate.
There are also protocols for shops, pubs, restaurants, hairdressers and seeing friends and family. It doesn't mean that they were adhered to nor does it mean that during the worst stage of the worst pandemic In living memory we should be allowing recreational football to be played when people are either dying or losing there business due to being closed down. I love amatuer football and its been a part of my life for over 40 years but its nowhere near important enough to be going on at this minute in time.
I understand peoples mental health is important but there are other ways to exercise amd socialise rather than kicking a ball in groups of 22- 50 peopleYou're right it is/was/would be difficult to make sure that protocols are followed. However, it can be done and was done so those who can were affected.1 -
For the life of me I cannot understand why people in the amateur game or the west of Scotland league have an issue with football being stopped. Amateur football has not been treated harshly by not being allowed to play, imo the WOSFL was being treated to slack by being allowed to play.
scottishamateurfootballnews.com/2021/02/12/the-big-amateur-debate-has-the-game-been-harshly-treated/
The Big Amateur Debate – Has The Game Been Harshly Treated?
12 FEB 2021SCOTTISH AMATEUR FOOTBALL NEWS
You could have heard a pin drop on Tuesday evening when an Official Social Media post revealed “The Government has today confirmed that they cannot currently commit to return dates for those affected leagues in the coming weeks”, writes Tom Scott.
I have not personally counted the number of Clubs and Officials who would have reacted to that latest update, but I can imagine the comments would have been a mixture of genuine anger and frustration.
Can you blame them? After the March (2020) notification to “cease football with immediate effect”, we have had start-stop-start- and stop again messages right across the board.
Some organisations managed one or more League games – others are holding out to play a reduced number of domestic fixtures – but many have thrown in the towel and aim to concentrate on season 2021-2021….that is if Clubs have not already folded!
Just to set the record straight in certain quarters, this is not just about going to a local park and having a game of football with your pals. No chance – not with over 1000 Clubs (at the last count) in Membership of the Scottish Amateur Football Association.
Talks will continue with all parties in the meantime we have been told, and a further updat is expected by 1st March, “but should not be seen as a proposed re-start day.”
The Physical and Mental Health issues have been a huge cause for concern over many months, and as a neutral observer – I am not involved with any Amateur Football Club – can anyone in authority produce figures that show Scottish Amateur Football Clubs have contributed to the number – increased they keep telling us – of Covid-19 cases?
And will the Government set out in language we all understand “What is their Exit Strategy to Football returning?” From where I stand, the game has been harshly treated!
At considerable expense, dedicated Officials have followed the same Covid protocols and regulations as other organisations who until recently were allowed to train and play.
I heard whispers that due to Clubs not having their own grounds this was part of the risk. Well, actually quite a few have, and maintain their Clubhouse/ Dressing Rooms, so is that not better? In any case, many “for hire” venues throughout the country are all.
Covid compliant. Staff have had their training etc, which actually means everyone needs to follow the rules more than they have already been doing!
Leagues throughout many areas of Scotland have actually been restructured to prevent excessive travelling. It is hardly a level playing field when you feel there is a clear case of discrimination.
OPEN TO DEBATE: Now have YOUR say on the subject of “No Amateur Football.” If YOU are an Official, Manager, Coach or Player, I welcome your comments. Has the Government stance been spot-on from Day One, or could alternative solutions been looked at collectively, constructively and implemented?
* Please remember we do not need opinions which border on legal action.0 -
I don't think there is a chance of that. If anything I think they may try to reduce the traveling for the foreseeable rather than make ayrshire teams travel to Glasgow regularly ( for an example )
As a possible positive out of this horrible situation. If there is a significant reduction in the number of teams (almost inevitable sadly), could we finally get the regional super leagues that have mooted for many years? I know the same barriers of committees agreeing to it remain but just maybe, this is the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of resistance and a recognition that for the amateur game it might be the best/only means of survival?0 -
I mention this everytime i post on this forum but I am new to the Juniors/WOSFL and I fully understand that this years title race may not be as strong as previous but one thing iv noticed is that its never mention on the Buffs, Clydebank, Troon or Meadow threads, that a title success would mean nothing, only in respect to Darvel. Sounds like bitterness to me.
Also side note, as it belongs on a different forum but Celtic have won more trophies in the 4 years since Rangers have been in the same division than the 4 years that they weren't in the same division so I'm not fully sure they added any more of a challenge between 2016 -2020.4 -
Sorry in advance as I'm sure that this information is available somewhere but has Talbot commented of wether they will ( or are they even allowed to ) compete in last seasons Scottish Cup of its gets completed
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Where i dont agree they should be open atleast it is for education purposes. Not coz they make £15 expenses a week
Schools,colleges and Universities with thousands of pupils/students inside them with no masks or social distancing is more madness than that but for some reason they must stay open.1 -
Millions of peoples Xmas ruined coz they are being forced off their work, while 48 guys go down the local park ( or travel across the country ) for a game of football coz they are "professional" Madness.....all while only 20 mourners are allowed to bury their loved ones.
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I wouldn't think so mate to be affiliated with has nothing to do with games or training. I still had to pay my one off yearly affiliating to my bowling club
Slightly off topic guys i know, couldn't find a thread on it elsewhere. but i've just been informed of an email DEMANDING fees of affiliatiom be paid by friday or be debt suspended and barred from all football activities....................WHAT FOOTBALL ACTIVITIES[emoji854]
WILL this money be returned when season is eventually called off or will it carry forward???????0 -
As previously said. The activity of playing the game may not be an issue. Just like the activity of sitting sipping a pint in a pub is not the issue. It everything else round about these things. 40 different households congregating in one area. Journeys to and from these areas. Hugging kissing shouting amd singing in each others faces when a goal is scored or wrecked in said pub.
They other side is that should the game be played on the Saturday and someone at the game tests positive on the Monday, even if its been passed to no one, all these lads need to isolate for 14 days. How long can that last for? No training, minimum of 2 games called off and 2 weeks off work, likely unpaid. The first time that happens to a club will be an eye opener. The next time that happens to a club they could find themselves with a mass exodus and imo, its not a matter of if that happens but when.
No one misses the game more than me. I cannot bear watching that pish on TV. id much rather be at a local park watching the amateur game. I just don't think in the middle of winter in lead up to Xmas is the best time. The only argument against, that holds any weight is the mental health damage. I dont know how to counter that0 -
The best example i can give is the Kilmarnock FC situation. Almost a full first team test positive of covid. Thats not a coincidence. At the very top level where every precaution possible has been pit in place it still managed to decimate a full club.
The only positive is that due to their testing procedures that was caught and taken care of. That has happened before and will happen again at the top level. Let's not be kidded it has happened before, happening now and will happen again out our level. We just don't know about it as the majority of young men don't get symptoms, but what they do do is carry it and pass it on but family and workmates. So the lack of testing at our level and the lack of symptoms in people at our level make it very hard to specifically blame a game from our level IMO.In all seriousness, can you post here which outdoor sporting activities which have been permitted and have caused the virus to spread and can be shown to have done so?
There's been individuals who have contracted the disease through other activities e.g. in Bars, visiting family and friends, going to College, University, School, etc but through outdoor activities, including contact sports, which are subject to covid spacing etc??0 -
I 100% agree with the example you gave.
Thats why I don't think any of them should be allowed. Its different at the top where the testing is so rigid or championship and lower leagues where its considered a major source of income. Anything below league 2, for me, shouldn't be played just yetCan't see what evidence has been shown that makes amateur football any more of a risk than any other grade.
My point is we are being denied the chance to play while other teams who are classed as professional are playing on public parks.
I don't see what the distinction is between a pro team with most players not being paid because they are on amateur registrations being allowed to play in public parks while amateur teams who carry out the same covid precautions cannot do the same.1 -
Unpopular opinion here but football outwith the top 4 leagues in the country should not be permitted IMO
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Your point about scale is one I hadn't thought of. Fair enough
I don't think the SG envisioned this when putting in the exemptions at the SFA's request and probably aren't even aware it's happening. The other consideration is scale with there being a lot more amateurs.1 -
Where i agree with all your points it also makes an even bigger mockery of the fact that amatuer clubs are not allows to play. They have both already played to the same protocols as each other and now they are using the same facilities. Absolute zero logic
With no crowds and no changing rooms being accessed, i'm not sure there would be much required. Also wouldn't these type of facilities be used by clubs for training and have procedures in place that would meet the requirements of hosting a BCD game?
EDIT: Maybole hosted at least one friendly at Cambusdoon Alloway.
[/url] Bellshill used the Sir Matt Busby Sports Complex before
Newmains are using the Wishaw Sports Centre. Couldn't find a previous use by them this season, but some amateurs have used it under COVID rules.
Glasgow University use Garscube for training, friendlies and 2nd XIs so would meet the protocols as well.1 -
Some signing if true
WULLIE SAWYERS SIGNS FOR MINISHANT. Big intentions this year from the Shant!0 -
£$€£$€£$€£$€
Cheque book out?0 -
Hearing Thistle are already feasting on the scraps of the wosfthe this coukd make the ammies a brilliant grade this season
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To anyone that will listen
Pleading with who?0 -
The big boys wont start coz they are too big time to get the wee boys out pitch side in the winter months
Ok...lowland..pyramid structure..blah blah blah.. question is..will the big boys start without the wee boys ?0 -
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Tam Hay was pleading that the amateur season be cancelled for a season " to save lives" [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji23]. Funny that only a couple weeks ago he was happy enough to throw money at managers to start this season. I hope Thistle do manage to keep running but they are fooling no one with this sudden take the year out attitude
RIP Ammy fitba calm down lol just cause Hurlford are done doesn’t mean you spit the dummy out and cancel amateur football.0 -
I don't think any club is kidden themselves on. They all know that at best its going to be stop start and just manage to stumble over the finish line, with what is likely to be an untrue version of who were the best and worst teams.
See in all honesty, who cares. 90% of amatuer clubs start the season knowing that they are not going to win anything, most players turn up on a Saturday not knowing who they are playing and probably couldnt even tell u all the teams In their league.
The vast majority of players committee men or management take part at this level of the game for enjoyment. No it may not be as enjoyable as 18/19 season was but for the last 8 weeks guys have still got out to train 1or 2 x a week and played maybe 4/5 games. With the vast majority not even moaning about changing pitch side.
So in short. No the season won't start in time. Yes the season will likely be stop start. No the season may not even finish on time and yes we may lose some men due to changing facilities etc.
It would be great tho if they folk could slip away quietly and come back when they feel that this grade of football can meet their requirement and let the rest of the clubs and "dog walkers" enjoy their football fix.
No mater how much or little that may be.3 -
If yous don't lose a game its cause their is no Scottish cup. Look like big boys in the LEAFA and do f**k all when u mix with the big boys.
big signs cuming 4 sandies. winnae even loss a game this yeer. evs signs folk fae newcaighal to stoap them foldin. tolly coudnay even signs Jackson fae star jordin eason fae lothan vale pluss sandies legend davie gallagher.dhall getting troops fae 20s fitba.muryston getting old craighill players in.1 -
See if football is allowed to continue this week. By the end of November there will be very few clubs thats not had a player who has had contact with someone who has tested positive. For all we know the crosshouse player has been tested and is negative. Kilmarnock especially is riddled with cases just now.
But was one of the crosshouse players not in the company of someone who is confirmed as positive ? And has then been training and playing with the team ? Sticky situation if u ask me2 -
So far today iv heard 1 week, 2 weeks and now 3. I hope it doesn't come but I think that's just wishing thinking
3 week lockdown upcoming0
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Too many big words for me and for that reason I'm out.