steviemay17
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Might just start copying and pasting this, but I am genuinely amazed at how our strikers cannot grasp the fundementals of playing up front.
I've said it so many times before, if you accept that Chris Kane is deeply unlikely to score then there's a lot to like about his game, his role in the team is built around that and I don't have a big problem with his inclusion going forward.
I feel dreadful for the ghost of Stevie May that now plays because it looks like all the fundementals of his game have been stripped away and he's just a shell, he tries hard and puts people under pressure, but he's essentially a less-good Kane at this point.
Callum Hendry is a special mix of neither where he doesn't use his aggression in a positive way, he makes no movements short or long, doesn't strike the ball with conviction and tries to just shoot or cross through his marker without trying to create any space so he offers nothing.
We must be the only team I've ever seen who actively look for strikers to flick the ball on, only for the other forward players to seem astounded that the ball going forward is something we can do, so they're 10 yards behind the play and have no momentum. That's one of the fundementals that sunday league players understand - you play it up to a target man and get someone to run onto it, it's not difficult but we don't have anyone who can do it
Not sure how it can be fixed, Eetu sounds like an alternative for Spoony/Middleton so there's still nobody to get on the end of the ball when anything does open up, but just watching the forward movement today for about 20 minutes showed a real cowardice in our play - not in terms of being a human pinata and taking bumps, but actually making a movement to get on the ball and give us an outlet - players sprinting towards the corner when the pass is never on, or coming really short into a crowded area where nothing is on, so our movement actively makes the players unavailable for the ball rather than the opposite.
This happened after the cup win in 2014, we immediately killed any enthusiasm and increased crowds by scoring less than a goal a game and generally they cam through set-pieces. I've supported Saints since I was 4 and have a season ticket so I'll keep going, but I struggle to see what's there to make the fairweather fans come back, so if we lose on Thursday the European attraction is gone, and a bottom half slug-fest without the ability to score quickly takes over and that's very difficult to sell.
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The guy next to me at the Gala game gave himself away very early doors with the Pope reference during sweet Caroline, before trying to start a Murray Davidson chant, clearly forgetting his surname and just shouting Murray on repeat for at least a minute. At least he was noisy tbf
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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:
I get the feeling if it was true it would be reported by someone with some substance, rather than a weirdo Celtic account, but might be wrong.
I always live in the fear of Saints not being a team that's going to attract any real clicks or attention, so people would only report on it if it were true, but this is clearly pish
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1 minute ago, mizfit said:
If any manager in Scotland was going to have an early link to the English championship it would’ve been Davidson.
Even if he does want to move on, I think he’d rather go to a club that’s not a complete basket case like Nottingham Forest.In fairness it seems to be coming from an utter sh*te source, plus I'm sure they go through several managers a season so surely not attractive
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Not happy with this Callum Davidson to Nottingham Forrest chat emerging on Twitter, even if it seems to be mostly crap
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Is there a cut-off point where simply being an ex-player no longer excuses the talking of absolute irrelevant sh*te, or do we just live in a perpetual jobs for the boys situation?
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1 minute ago, perthsaint1977 said:
Yes
Yes to which one?
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Possibly stupid question, can I now just turn up with my season ticket and sit in my seat as normal, or do we still need to select a seat and confirm an e-ticket for Sunday as before?
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I've got a really bad feeling about LASK. We're great against teams who we can force into wider positions and offering no space inside, but they just look direct and much more physical/fast than our defenders so we might not get a chance for the back three to be settled and organised.
Not a chance Liam Craig can start this one, we can't afford to cheaply give the ball away and then have no pace to get back in to cover
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Hendry really is getting every chance to probe himself
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20 minutes ago, tree house tam said:
Hendry can get as far to f**k from this side as possible, offers f**k all and doesn't seem to want to change that.
He was actually summed up nicely in this moment and just after he came on, produced a really nice touch and turn to get past the Gala player, but then just had absolutely nothing to make it count
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I've actually forgotten about this from last night until now, there was a moment at 3-1, we got a break of the ball in the midfield and some tried to slip Hendry in behind. He just stood there, didn't offer short, didn't try to get in behind, just stood and sort of laughed at whoever tried to play the ball when they went nuts at him (Want to say Muzz but can't be sure) before just standing still on the spot as they brought it out of defence and the Gala player was able to take all the time he needed to knock it into an attacking area again
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Fitzpatrick an attack-minded right sided player? Might end up as the attack wing-back option if Rooney goes I guess
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Only complaint was they were reeling when it went to 1-1 and we just let them have the contriol fo the game back and didn't pressure them at all after that
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2 minutes ago, tree house tam said:
Mind games, if his team perform they win , it's that simple.
I liked the bit about 20 degrees difference and he doesn't know how they'll cope. Then he's reminded it was the same for Saints last week and changes it too how rocking the place will be, a bit like what Saints had to endure last week. The boys at it.
Is it mind games when all he's doing is handing excuses to a fractured squad who are in a bad run and could implode if things go against them?
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Off topic but add another to the "grass isn't always greener list"
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suddenly paranoid, it was confirmed that season ticket holders' seats are automatically reserved right? even for us glory hunting first time buyers?
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Just now, Fife Saint said:
I'm sure the boys over at the FB banter page will be handling this with composure and grace.
If Ross Callachan and Steven Reynolds were in charge then we would have a 4-0 lead and the tickets would already be sorted
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Usually I find the tinpottishness of our operations quite charming, but not today
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Another to add to the list...
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Our attacking play is actually something to behold, but mainly for the wrong reasons. Consistently making the wrong choices, honestly not sure if it can be put down to bad coaching or just stupid selfish decisions, but the amount of times someone ignored the obvious ball to try something that was never going to come off definitely went into double figures today.
Perhaps it's a mental block and the players have something in their mind that it's harder to open teams up in the final third so we must then try the hard ball, but Middleton is the only one who looks like he'll consistently make a good decision and hold others to account for their bad choices.
Someone needs to read the paragraph in Zlatan's autobiography and test it out with Stevie May - Capello just took him out and had someone fire balls at him on the instructions to shoot and nothing else, that moment at the start of the game when he was central, in the clear, steadied and had a clear path to goal and still didn't want to shoot was worrying
MOH has zero goalscoring insticts so it's pointless playing him as a forward to get on the end of crosses, he also needs a few seconds to react to anything and by then the ball is gone
Defence is strong enough to cope with most, but we simply can't score from open play unless something is gifted to us
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Any chance we were scared of getting pumped last night, tie being over and then getting pelters for demanding a full stadium only for 3-4k turn up?
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3 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said:
90 minutes from life changing monies for the club.
Win on Thursday and we are guaranteed at worst a place in the Europa conference which brings nearly 3 million euros just for qualifying.
If we were to take out Randers, then it would be 3.6 million euros just for qualifying.
Win on Thursday and we have another 8 games guaranteed in Europe.
4 at home and you would imagine near capacity for all 4. Say 7500 per game at 25 quid a pop, you are looking at 750k just from gate receipts. Throw in money from hospitality and TV rights, it could easily be worth another million.
Then we come to potential earnings per win/draw in the group stages. Europa League is 660k euros per win, 210k euro per draw.
Conference is 500k euros per win, 166k euros per draw
Next Thursday night is probably easily worth 4/5 million quid.
RemarkableAli McCann plays like that again and it won't be the only 4/5 million that the club makes from this run either
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Double Winning St Johnstone FC Thread
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Just looking back at the league records from last season
Stevie May - 5 goals in 34 games, against Hamilton x2 St Mirren x2 and Motherwell, the two Hamilton goals came in the same game - crediited with 4 assists
Chris Kane - 4 goals in 28 games, against Celtic, Livingston, Dundee United and St Mirren - credited with 3 assists
Michael O'Halloran - 1 goal in 22 games, came in the third game against Killie, also one assist and two red cards
Callum Hendry - 0 goals in 16 games, two on loan for Aberdeen
David Wotherspoon - 3 goals and 5 assists in 37 games - goals vs Killie, Hamilton and Hibs
Glen Middleton - 2 goals in 9 games vs Hibs and Ross county, 0 assists
So that's a grand total of 15 goals over a league season, so they've been scoring less than a goal every 2 games between them
Guy Melamed contributed 5 goals in 18 games, but even with him that's out entire forward line and support form the att-midfield area only just scoring a goal every two games combined
Eetu has 4 in 11 games this season so he would be on track for about 12-14 goals, but that's arguably at a lower level and not sure how penalties and free kicks factor into that.
It doesn't matter how good the defence is - that is an unsustainable level for them to compete with, plus that added pressure will lead to mistakes which ultimately kill us when we go behind.
This year we've scored from
Jason Kerr's pen vs Galatasaray - moment of madness from the keeper, the own goal in the home leg which was a goalkeeping howler and may not have been in, although the goal at the end was nice but again it's when a game is dead in the dying moments
Goal vs Motherwell required a large piece of luck, plus the two against Arbroath were set-pieces so little to do with open attacking play.
We've only scored one quality goal in a game when it's been from open play and when the game was still competitive, so group stages or no group stages, at least one more on top of Eetu is needed