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  1. 2 minutes ago, AJF said:

    As Kincardine mentioned, you support a team for the sport and not the fans. And although you’ve mentioned they are intrinsically linked, you can see from the response to Goldson’s post, those that support him outnumber those that don’t.

    Rangers as a club have done a lot of work over the recent years to try and combat this type of fan behaviour, it’s now time for the fans to do their part and I think your claim that any issues have got worse is unfounded and anecdotal.

    If there are stats that can back your claim up then I’ll eat humble pie.

    Nice orange training top 

  2. 48 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

    There are a fair few of us who have posted on here for a long time (many years longer than you) and the reasons we continue to do so are various but include the undoubted fact that we prefer the idea of talking about football in a multi-club forum rather than the echo-chambers that are FF and RM.

    Most of the P&B Rangers supporters hold no truck with either sectarianism or bigotry and we're, mostly, here for the sport.  Otherwise we'd be on other forums.

    Do we as a club still have a problem with hate speech from fans? Of course.  Does it stop me following said club? No, of course not..  You support a team for the sport not for the fans.

    I have to credit Goldson for speaking out and I know every Rangers poster on here will agree with him.

    Rangers and Celtic as clubs do f**k all to stamp out bigotry apart from the odd bit of lip service, you both breed on sectarianism. Same team , different colours.

  3. 7 minutes ago, strichener said:

    What is this load of nonsense and how does it relate to my post?

    You quite clearly aren't buying a season ticket for "your" club.  Yet you think that attending 700 games gives you a right to criticise others.

    The reason for the continued use of "your" is that I think you have a brass neck claiming that you are a supporter of the club when you and not simply being unsupportive but actually critical of the club trying to get income to survive this crisis.  I bet you are one of those that think it should be the faceless suits that inject the funds in so that you can go to another X amount of games.

    "Your" club needs you at this time of need and you are nowhere to be seen.

    Brilliant, this guy has you all hook, line and sinker.

  4. 13 minutes ago, stumigoo said:

    On the manager, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was McCulloch. He is very much in the same bracket as Asghar with regards to ‘sports speak’. He’s gone on different sports management courses and is getting related qualifications, like his Masters in Sports Directorship (and I think he possibly started that after advice/support from Asghar). It feels like he has been moulded into someone who could step in.

    McCulloch is a smashing guy who gets on well with the players. He seemed good at spotting a player but not so good at getting anything out of them, have my doubts if he’d do a job as manager.

  5. 50 minutes ago, ScottishZizou said:

    Mcinnes has finished

    3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 4th.

    Finished ahead of Rangers twice and behind them twice. These last two seasons weren’t great but If your down seasons are not getting 3rd on goal difference and then a postponed season where you very well could have come 3rd then I can live with that. If you look at the absolute state of Hearts and Hibs in comparison who are probably fair to compare Aberdeen to its night and day. 

    There are definitely flaws with Mcinnes but this is the best stretch by any non old firm team in the last 30 years. 
     

    Aye, well done

  6. 13 minutes ago, ScottishZizou said:

    This KTID26 is a bit of an obsessed moron isn't he?

    Won't  shut up about Findlay/Mckenna when no one else seems very bothered. Both decent players. Would be nice if we stole him off Killie once Mckenna goes. 

    Just the natural order with big clubs picking the best players off the wee clubs which is ashame. Kilmarnock finished once above Aberdeen in the last 8 seasons and that was on goal difference.

    When you look at our consistency over the last 6/7 years under McInnes it hasn't really been done my any club in last 20 years. He gets some warranted criticism but his enture tenure has been very good. 

    That good a large percentage of your support wanted rid because once again on a superior budget you came 4th for a second successive season.

  7. 39 minutes ago, capt_oats said:

    Also, how did we treat them?

    Was it this?

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    I'm keen to know...

    One of my favourite non Killie games ever was the play off at Fir Park, loved the way you never gave them a big allocation and then got it right up them at the end.

    Other favourite was the Hibs v The Rangers cup final. Closely followed by any game where they get beat by anyone.

  8. 2 hours ago, DuntoiRab said:

     

    Scottish football is run by a mafia. Any pretence of a member run "democratic" organisation is a farce. And as a customer you are the bottom of the pile.

     

    Scottish football is run by the old filth and the authorities are scared to upset one of them in case they get their media pals involved, get the 2 of them to f**k 

  9. 2 hours ago, Thistle Scotland Europe said:

    I think it is time we allowed the big sides, or all Premier sides to put second teams in the lower divisions.

     

    Purpose

     

    The point in this is to help Scotland produce more talented football players, who can go on to help the Scottish international team reach and do well in major championships.

     

    The more talented players we have, the more chance of Scotland doing well in international football

     

    It is not to help Celtic or Rangers. It is to help the Scottish international team. Although the big sides would benefit from this move.

     

    Justification.

     

    At present many young Scottish players do not get early senior level experience because there are other players in their way. So players are not tested at competitive level football. Giving players early experience of competitive football is vital for their development

     

    Examples.

     

    In Spain, Germany, the Netherlands, France, Belgium, Portugal and Germany , the big sides play reserve teams in the lower divisions, so that young players can test themselves against grown men, and at competitive levels.

     

    The most striking example is Croatia. Croatia a nation that has reached the World Cup Final with a population smaller than Scotland. In Croatia, 3 teams Osijek, Zagreb, and Hajduk Split have second teams playing in the second division. So in Croatia. No one says it is just persecuting the smaller sides or ganging up with the big 3 sides to let the big sides to have second teams in the league system. People in Croatia realise that having the big sides having reserve teams in the lower divisions, is a way of guaranteeing young top players at the big sides will get competitive experience of football at a young age, They put the Croatian international side above the petty interests of each club.   

     

    What I want for Scottish Football.

     

    I want Scotland to do well in major championships. I want Scottish clubs to do well in European club competitions. I want Scottish football to be seen as a major league in Europe and the World.

     

    So we need a system that produces more top players, great elite club sides who can do well in Europe. Have high attendances in the Scottish League. Attracting great players to play in Scotland.

     

     

     

    The Critics of the idea.

     

    That this is taking places in the league away from smaller sides.

     

    But I think any team big enough to be in the Scottish League, should be offered a place in the Scottish League.

     

    But

     

    A)      You should not put the interests of a part time team finishing 8 places higher in the league system above the interests of the Scottish international team producing good players. That is a betrayal of Scottish nationality.  

     

    B)      What gets on my nerves is people who say we should have less team in the Scottish Football League. Then the next minute complain about B teams being put in the league on the basis that they might take places away from smaller sides like Brora Rangers of Kelty Hearts, that they have just said should not be in the Scottish League. Let me reiterate I think Brora and Kelty should be in the Scottish League, but I also think the big side’s reserve teams should be in the league, so every young Scottish player, at the big sides has the capability to show what they are capable of on a football field.

     

    People will say well why don’t ’the big clubs just play young players in their first team more often.

     

    My argument to that. Is that that is not living in the real world. If the elite sides just played inexperienced sides in their first team every season, they would do worse in the league, and would perform terribly in European competitions. What we need a system that enables all our club sides to do well but also produces more international players

     

    Those who don’t care about Scottish football’s reputation. -

     

    What gets on my nerves is people who don’t care how well Scottish clubs do in Europe. And don’t care how well the international side does in international football. And then have the cheek to pretend that they have sincere views on how to help Scottish football develop at club level and international level.

     

    They tend to put forward ridiculous ideas like suggesting that we should let Celtic and Rangers join the English League and that losing our biggest sides would help Scottish football. Or they say stupid things like well our teams do rubbish in Europe so who cares about making a system to that makes them do better   Or they bring up sore points from years ago, that justify their hatred of the big, or elite clubs in Scottish football. And then these people have the cheek for us to take their views on how to help Scottish football seriously.

     

    I know one person suggested that every Scottish club should be part time. How the heck would Scottish football club perform in Europe, if we lost all our top players to other leagues and could not attract top foreign players to the league? It is utter nonsense.

     

    I know one person who said they would rather their own side win the league rather than Scotland producing top players.

     

     

     

    The Rangers Celtic Critics

     

    You will get some who will suggest all I want to do is have Celtic and Rangers winning the lower leagues. That is not what this is about. It is about motivating the top clubs to develop young Scottish players without damaging their chances in Europe.

     

    My Plan

     

    I would have every Scottish Premier side, be allowed a under 21-year old sides in the bottom tier of the SPFL. That would be a good level for Scottish players to develop. I would also allow the under 21-year old sides to have 3 over 21 year old players in their teams. This is to ensure there are players who can teach their younger players what to do in competitive football games. As you need some older experienced players to pass on tricks of the trade and composure to the less experienced players.

     

    You will get some who will say what about the loan system.

     

    But the loan system would not give an entire Premier side’s youth team in their side. You would be lucky for a lower division team to give more than 3 young players a chance.

     

    How would you like it if your fave side had to play a reserve side?

     

    I remember one critic of my idea said well how would Aberdeen fans like it if they had to play the Real Madrid B side?

     

    I would be happy to have it that Colt or B sides do not play in the Scottish domestic cups, if this happened.

     

    My answer to that would be;

     

    1)      I am not Spanish. I am not interested in helping Spanish sides develop. I am interested in helping Scottish players at the big clubs develop. Why would your first argument be to ask how I would be interested in helping foreign teams to do better. Do you see the Scottish sides, in the same esteem as foreign sides.  

     

    2)      The only way Aberdeen could play Real Madrid B side in competitive football, would be if there was a European Super League, and Aberdeen found themselves in a division with Real Madrid’s second team, it would not bother me. If it was about playing Nice one week, Livorno the next, and then Real Madrid’s second side. I would take that, if that was our level.

     

     

     

    Other advantages of this idea;

     

    1. Imagine a Celtic B v Rangers B game filling a large stadium. Imagine the lower Scottish leagues listing 20,000 or 30,000 fans turning up for a League One or League Two decider. It would make Scottish football look better.

       

    2. The big clubs would get better players because their players had developed more at a young age. So could perform better in European competitions.

       

    3. Smaller club’s fans would be able to see the young potential Scottish stars at their stadiums,

       

    4. There would be more attention given to the lower leagues, as the big club’s fans would want to know how their teams were getting on.

       

    5. It could lead to great players from other countries coming to Scotland due to Scotland having a better youth development system.

       

    6. Every club in Scotland has the potential to reach the Premier, and then have a B team in the lower leagues. Every club in Scotland could be in the Premier, with the right backing behind them. So this could be something all Scottish clubs could look forward to doing. 40 years ago Ross County were a small club in the Highland League. Now they are an established side in the Premier. That could happen to almost any club in Scotland, with the current pyramid system. Look at other examples in the past like Clydebank, and Dumbarton.

       

     

     

    Hope you have enjoyed reading my views,

     

    Thanks,

     

    Stupid cow

  10. 1 minute ago, Ric said:

    I would perhaps have someone like Thompson or Money, but those guys are clouded by history for me, and I find it difficult to really judge them objectively.

    Hladky, while only a fairly short tenure of a 2 seasons, has possibly put himself into contention.

     

    As for worst? Heh.. the list can go on forever and I really don't know. I seem to remember Bullock (spelling?) who, if memory serves me well - and it rarely does, asked to be subbed at half time because he wasn't in the right frame of mind. I'm sure other buddies could correct me on that one.

    Campbell Money was class from what I can remember of him

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