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    Junior attendances 2019/20

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    Posted · Edited by Burnieclub78

    11 minutes ago, Black Pennel said:

    Cumbernauld Colts -v- Dalry Thistle ?

    You're just doing this to annoy folk now, aren't you ? 😉

    Makes the result even more remarkable, though...

    Oops sorted, apologies Cumbernauld Utd 

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    Junior attendances 2019/20

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    Missing quite a few attendance / headcount from weekend. Any help getting figures would be greatly appreciated 

    Auchinleck v Rutherglen 

    Beith v Largs

    Hurlford v Clydebank 

    Troon v Kirkintilloch 

    Craigmark v Neilston 

    Irvine Victoria v Renfrew 

    Whitletts v Cambuslang Rangers 

    Greenock Juniors v Lesmahagow 

    Larkhall v Ardrossan 

    Thorniewood v Maybole 

    Vale of Clyde v Lugar Boswell 

    Kirriemuir v Tayport 

    Brechin Vics v Forfar Albion 

    Dundee Violet v Arbroath Vics 

    Lochee Harp v Couper Angus

    Kirkcaldy v Bo'ness Utd juniors 

    Broughty v Scone Th

    Aberdeen East End v Dundee North End

    Buchanhaven v Forfar West End 

    Culter v Luncarty 

    Ellon Utd v Hall Russell 

    Longside v Buckie Rovers 

    Islavale v Newmachar 

    Sunnybank v Aberdeen Uni 

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    Junior attendances 2019/20

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    2 hours ago, Lokloyal said:

    I agree that overstating crowd sizes is not going to harm the marketability of the product(then again as I have said many times we could start with the easy step of 3pm kick offs) but it would be very interesting to get an honest and accurate picture simply by clubs who issue tickets letting us know what the numbers through the gates were.For example do we not at least have the accurate figures for the last round of the Scottish where clubs must record the gate and confirm to their opponents and the SJFA?Can anyone give those crowds as declared?

    I totally understand where you are coming from regarding gate numbers. My personal opinion regarding attendance figures is they should include all on spectators side of barriers. This imo gives a more accurate figure of spectators. Take the Darvel / Petetshill game. 305 I believe was paying gate? I may be wrong? Add on two committees, helpers, kids etc and can be quite easily another 80+. Spectators. All are seeing advertising / sponsorship / club adverts / buying food & drinks etc and almost certainly watching the game.

    Regarding cup games I can understand if gate is split but if figures are given as paying between clubs, and then a total including free, kids, committee etc then I'm sure that could work when announcing total att.  Still need all clubs to help with getting most accurate figures possible. 

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    Junior attendances 2019/20

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    Posted · Edited by Burnieclub78

    2 hours ago, jimbaxters said:

    To what end though? I actually think it could be problematic for future sponsorship if said potential sponsors see just how low the footfall can be.

    Ok then let's look at it this way.

    I have figures from 459 junior games ( only started collating end Oct approx) 

    Total spectators counted so far 65,113

    Average att / headcount across all junior regions 142, league & all cups.

    I am missing figures from 264 games since I started. Let's multiply this by average and add to total counted so far. Over 102,000. If I had figures from beginning of season to now we would be possibly looking at a cumulative att fig of well over 200,000 for all junior regions to date. 

    Let's take all the west region 

    48270 counted so far from 250 games

    Average att 193

    100 games missing figures since I started so let's multiply by average and add to total giving around 67,570 cumulative total att ( mind this is only from October so figure for West would easily top 100,000 by now with figures from all games)

    I'm fairly confident that possible sponsors would like to see cumulative att / headcount over a season of say 200,000 / 300,000 and average att / headcount of 142 all regions or 193 West region. All leagues, regions, clubs would have stats and spreadsheets to use to help with sponsorship / advertising or what ever each see fit. 

    All att / headcount will do if all clubs supply headcount of all on spectators side of barriers is give all stats to use.

    This is why I believe every count from say 30 to 300 + are all just as important as each other. They all do their bit to get to your cumulative total. This total is imo one of many positive tools to have. 

    Only take the positives to potential sponsors 

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    Junior attendances 2019/20

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    29 minutes ago, Lokloyal said:

    I think there is a great deal of exaggeration in most of these “headcount” figures.Unless there is a ticketed attendance take most of them with large punches of salt!

    Most of " these " headcount figures are around or under 100. Most figures given will be there or thereabouts. This exercise is not official attendance with ticket count only or counting through the gate only. Everyone on spectators side of barriers should be counted as a spectator.  A physical count around the ground with a clicker of heads will give a more accurate fig and may well surprise many with how many spectators are in ground. Yes there may well be some inflated figures given but they will be the minority. When they are they usually do get called out. This is still early days with this but I believe with a bit more time and more clubs help the figures will become more and more accurate as we go on. 

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