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Players clipping the ball aimlessly forward as soon as they got it. Like watching a team of Gary Irvines.
Michael O'Halloran not making the ball stick up front? No shit. Not really his fault, though. And he was never getting in behind.
No power left in May. Brown a Championship player.
Positives: Bryson busy as usual. Booth had a good first five minutes. Thought Viv was lively and tried to make things happen without it ever looking likely (no space to work with, and not enough guile in the team generally).
County well worth the win, and Saints look like a team destined to lose a lot more games by a single goal if nothing changes.
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47 minutes ago, scottsdad said:
Deepti's irony monitor isn't working.
The rise of the scientist-commentator (and the public spats between colleagues) has been one of the most fascinating aspects of the pandemic for me.
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3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
I'm currently working my way through Gary Rowetts managerial career to see who's available from his previous squads.
Strangely enough, it appears from newspaper reports at the time as though Butterfield left Derby because he didn't like Rowett's style of play.
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54 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
I don't think changing formation matters much anymore tbh.
We'd still be playing the same aimless style with the same shit players in attack.
Don't necessarily disagree with that, but we might as well be off the pace in January having tried something different with those players - albeit a slight formation tweak isn't hugely revolutionary.
Any early thoughts or rumours about who we could go for in January (other than Walker)? I can't see Davidson taking any more punts on unknown overseas players at such a critical time. A striker who can carve out their own opportunities would be ideal - especially if we struggle to add genuine creativity in Wotherspoon's absence. Hoping Butterfield isn't another 'brilliant in 2010' signing and shows he can add that bit of quality to our midfield.
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Liverpool-style 4-3-3 for me:
Clark; Rooney, Gordon, McCart, Devine; Bryson, Davidson, Butterfield; Middleton, May, Viv
Not sure who the Salah is, mind.
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Accidentally deleted this earlier, but one of the ex-players on the radio said that "fans can be fickle" in response to a question about potential disquiet among St Johnstone supporters. We've scored nine goals in 18 games!
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What a player he was, by the way.
On a related note, I think Melamed's introduction helped us massively last season. He had the knack of getting into positions and scoring goals against the diddies, turning those frustrating 0-0s and 1-1s into positive results and helping enable our resurgence (or at least that's how I remember it - clearly there were other factors too). Doesn't feel like that's going to happen this season
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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:
Manager calling certain players shitebags...
Do you think he's implying certain individuals are shirking challenges etc? If so, who? Starting XI tomorrow will be telling.
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2 hours ago, craigkillie said:
Glad he's finally called Jacob Brown up, I've been banging on about him for years.
I feel as though I've heard of Jacob Brown, but that might be because he has the most Championship-sounding name imaginable (happy to hear alternative suggestions).
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Think Mark Connolly was also a Hamilton 45er. (Could be wrong.)
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1 hour ago, The Real Saints said:
A few parallels to be drawn between ourselves and Chelsea this season, I reckon. Obviously we play a superior standard of football, but it’s the same set-up, same formation, difficult for ‘better teams’ to break us down, and both teams have a massive goal virgin leading the line.
I pitched this thesis to some friends after the Champions League final, but they weren't interested. I think it fell down on Hibs = Man City.
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16 minutes ago, Kyle said:
I’ll be honest, I think the current 4 hurt us more than the first 4 but it’s still not a complete disaster.
Very difficult to argue it the other way. Fingers crossed they're all OK and available for the final.
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Out of Bryson and Conway, I doubt many would have picked the thrice-capped former Derby ace as the one to get the new deal. Not until a few weeks ago, anyway. I still feel his lack of acceleration gets shown up at times (eg on one occasion yesterday when he let the ball run across him in midfield), but he's neat and tidy with the ball and I don't begrudge him another year.
Melamed's influence has waned recently, but he offers something different and I'd love him to stay. Still feel he can be a regular chance-getter and goalscorer – particularly against the diddy teams.
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Pleased with that lineup, and at least we have some good attacking options on the bench. Big role for Bryson today in Craig's absence. No idea how much the players will be affected by a week of disruption, but that XI is near enough our strongest. Main worry would be certain players having to go longer than they normally would - particularly if it goes beyond the 90.
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At his best, O'Halloran looked like an adult playing against kids. That doesn't really happen any more. However, he's still quick, and I'd be happy to have him around if it made sense for Saints financially.
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Mannus was solid. Did he produce the moments of wonder we saw from the mercurial Enckelman? No. Did he chuck the ball in the net? Not really. He knew his strengths and limitations, and has to be up there with our best ever keepers based in large part on his consistency and reliability (and physique). I'll always have more of a soft spot for the likes of Enckelman and 90s Main, though.
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10 minutes ago, andylivi1 said:
Before the game would I have taken any St Johnstone players over our players? No. Think it’s fare to back your own players
This was the only bit that raised an eyebrow from my perspective. I see where you're coming from regarding backing your own team, but I doubt David Martindale would turn his nose up at Ali McCann, for example.
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12 hours ago, andylivi1 said:
Congrats to the St Johnstone boys on here, I’ve purposely stayed off here because I’m not gonna lie it hurt a lot watching that yesterday.
We spoke about it today though, that was just as hard lol.
Can listen here - https://talklivipodcast.libsyn.com
Again to reiterate, my genuine congratulations to you lads, a thoroughly deserved win, as hard as that is to say. Still gutted.
Enjoyed listening to that (and not simply to revel in others' misery).
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1 hour ago, Widge said:
I'd 100% keep him, purely because he scored goals and offers something different to the team. Do I think he'll stay, I'm not convinced. I suspect he's missing him family and maybe feels that Davidson is still not 100% trusting him. I think he'll play in almost all the games from now until the end of the season, I also think he'll score goals. But there's a part of me that hopes if the world opens up again and he's able to get his family, etc. across to visit him, he might get a little happier. It's a really tough situation for him and the club and I'm sure that no matter what the club will do the right thing by him, especially if he wants to go, it would be with our blessing and thanks.
It must be pretty gutting not to get a single minute of the semi-final or final after being such a big part of the team's recent upturn in league form. (That's not a dig at Davidson, as clearly his decisions paid off big time.)
I'd like to see Melamed stick around – I enjoy watching him and he offers something different from our other forwards.
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Feels a bit off from our perspective. Need to settle down.
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I'd echo the other comments. Don't like it but not surprised by it and happy to put faith in the manager after it came off against Hibs (albeit after a watch-through-your-fingers first 30).
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9 minutes ago, tree house tam said:
I was staying off the alcohol today and refused to go to a couple of gazebo affairs but f**k it, I am now going to treat this game with the respect it deserves.
Quite right. Maybe if Callum has a few drinks he'll be persuaded to stick Melamed on the teamsheet.
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4 minutes ago, Sconesaint said:
id love it to be set up just as it was on Saturday but Davidson likes to be cautious in big games. I see this been no different.
Having just said the opposite, you may have convinced me otherwise already!
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Butterfield and McCart deserve a mention here too.