Jeremiah Cole

Around 60,000 people a year have the common cold when they die in the UK This compares with 2,300 who have died with coronavirus

I’m the one in the extreme minority trying to argue an alternative view with people who won’t accept that they might be wrong. And for the sake of healthy debate you think I should accept that my position may be wrong? yeh, I see your logic there

Indeed. They are going to need to double down on this over reaction for a long time to come in order to justify the damage they have done and the panic they have spread. Truth and reality will eventually emerge.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/04/healthy-debate/

So you’re saying the hospitals in New York are empty as per the video and that they’re just waiting for the rush? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/31/new-york-city-hospitals-coronavirus/?outputType=amp fuckwits line you are literally killing people by throwing them out of hospitals

These numbers are meaningless They are telling us the numbers dying WITH coronavirus, not OF it we need to know the excess mortality i believe the excess mortality in the UK will be zero

New York is currently the world epicentre allegedly folk need to start waking up

Confirms what I’ve been hearing about hospitals in Scotland today. The RAH and the Queen Elizabeth Uni in Govan have never been quieter

Neither am I I’m just putting out the information and asking questions. Up to people to make up their own minds. If folk want to hurl abuse at me then fine.

The more people start to ask questions, the better. A couple of weeks ago folk were sceptical of everything the government came out with. Now everyone seems to be accepting what they are saying without question. The tide will turn soon enough and the backtracking will begin. They’ve already started telling us that there are green shoots, that we’ve not to pay too much attention to large daily death figures. Next they’ll tell us that the lockdown has worked better than expected and tell us how successful they were in saving so many lives.

Hospital situation in the US, Germany and Switzerland The US television station CBS was caughtusing footage from an Italian intensive care unit in a piece on the current situation in New York. In fact, dozens of recordings by citizen journalists show that it is currently very quiet in the hospitals on the US East and West Coast. Even the „corpse refrigerator trucks“ prominently shown in the media are unused and empty. Contrary to media reports, the register of German intensive care units also shows no increased occupancy. Citizen journalists visited completely abandoned Covid19 admission centres in Berlin clinics. An employee of a Munich clinic explained that they had been „waiting for weeks for the wave to hit“, but that there was „no increase in patient numbers“. He said that the politicians‘ statements did not correspond with their own experience, and that the „myth of the killer virus“ could „not be confirmed“. Also in Swiss clinics, no increased occupancy has been observed so far. A visitor to the cantonal hospital in Lucerne reports that there is „less activity than in normal times“. Entire floors have been closed for Covid19, but staff „are still waiting for patients“. The hospitals in Bern, Basel, Zug and Zurich have also been „cleaned out“. Even in Ticino, the intensive care units are not working to capacity, but patients are now being transferred to the empty German-Swiss departments. From a purely medical point of view, this makes little sense.

Italian authorities estimate that around 12% of deaths were specifically caused by the coronavirus, ie around 1,500. A bad flu season can cause over 50,000 excess deaths in Italy. The collapse of their healthcare system caused by the panic has caused far more deaths.

Dr. John Lee, professor emeritus of pathology, is writing about the highly misleading definition and communication of „corona deaths“ in the British Spectator. The latest data from Norway, evaluated by a PhD in environmental toxicology, again show that the rate of test-positives does not increase – as would be expected in the case of an epidemic – but fluctuates in the normal range for coronaviruses between 2 and 10%. The average age of the test-positive deceased is 84 years, the causes of death are not publicly reported, and there is no excess mortality. Sweden, which has so far managed without radical measures and has not reported increased mortality (similar to Asian countries such as Japan or South Korea), is remarkably put under pressurefrom the international media to change its strategy. Data from New York State show that the hospitalization rate of test-positive individuals could be more than twenty times lower than originally assumed.

April 1, 2020 On the situation in Italy Italian doctors reported that they had already observed severe cases of pneumonia in northern Italy at the end of last year. However, genetic analyses now show that the Covid19 virus only appeared in Italy in January of this year. „The severe pneumonia diagnosed in Italy in November and December must therefore be due to a different pathogen,“ a virologist noted. This once again raises the question what role the Covid19 virus, or other factors, actually play in the Italian situation. On March 30, we mentioned the list of Italian doctors who died „during the Corona crisis“, many of whom were up to 90 years old and didn’t actively participate in the crisis at all. Today, all years of birth on the list have been removed (see however the last archive version). A strange procedure. We have also received the following message from an observer in Italy, who gives further details about the dramatic situation there, which is obviously due to far more than a virus: „In recent weeks, most of the Eastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the „emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers. Many of these abandoned people then ended up after a few days in the hospitals, which had been permanently overloaded for years, because they were dehydrated, among other things. Unfortunately, the hospitals lacked the personnel who had to look after the children locked up in their apartments because schools and kindergartens had been closed. This then led to the complete collapse of the care for the disabled and the elderly, especially in those areas where even harder „measures“ were ordered, and to chaotic conditions. The nursing emergency, which was caused by the panic, temporarily led to many deaths among those in need of care and increasingly among younger patients in the hospitals. These fatalities then served to cause even more panic among those in charge and the media, who reported, for example, „another 475 fatalities“, „The dead are being removed from hospitals by the army“, accompanied by pictures of coffins and army trucks lined up. However, this was the result of the funeral directors‘ fear of the „killer virus“, who therefore refused their services. Moreover, on the one hand there were too many deaths at once and on the other hand the government passed a law that the corpses carrying the coronavirus had to be cremated. In Catholic Italy, few cremations had been carried out in the past. Therefore there were only a few small crematoria, which very quickly reached their limits. Therefore the deceased had to be laid out in different churches. In principle, this development is the same in all countries. However, the quality of the health system has a considerable influence on the effects. Therefore, there are fewer problems in Germany, Austria or Switzerland than in Italy, Spain or the USA. However, as can be seen in the official figures, there is no significant increase in the mortality rate. Just a small mountain that came from this tragedy.“

BBC now asking the questions I’ve been asking for days Coronavirus: How to understand the death toll https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

They all just panicked and collapsed under pressure after Italy like a pack of cards

Ha ha. That’s so funny.

That’s hilarious my sides are splitting have you considered a career in stand up comedy?

I was in Asda last night and it’s little wonder that the NHS can’t get their hands on protective gear looking at the number of folk walking about dresses as surgeons. it was like halloween folk, who a couple of weeks ago were happy to meet up in the pub now in a panic in case their trolley happens to brush up against someone else’s trolley its a joke

Amazing how the public now unquestioningly believe everything that Boris and his far right fascist regime now tell them. Amazing how they now believe everything the mainstream media tell them. The compliant unquestioning masses now happy to fall in line and dutifully obey their fuhrer. The folk putting their heads above the parapets to question this will grow as the days go by.

That’s hilarious do you do stand up comedy?

Are you still fucking here? Unique patter.

Yet there’s no more death in Sweden where they are following exactly that route Indeed, there is no excess death whatsoever according to the European health monitor in excess death.

Up to 650,000 deaths directly linked to the flu every year. 73,000 have so far died WITH coronavirus. No stats on how many actually died OF it. Yet we’ve wrecked the economy and imposed a police state and all on the basis of a made up estimate using dodgy assumptions and flawed data from the people who got foot and mouth badly wrong. we need the mainstream media to start questioning whether this lockdown is justified

Sweden continues with no lockdown and continues to fare no differently from other Northern European nations