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23 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:
I would think a Tayside league would be feasible, they're about 30 miles from both Blairgowie and Coupar Angus, albeit, travel up and down the A9 might be easier than cross-country. They're going to be outliers in whatever division they play, realistically.
Although, from the perspective of Highland League clubs, they're not that much out of the way for the Shire teams compared to Fort William, Brora and Wick...
I can see where you are coming from with the Tayside league (if it ever materialises), just seems crazy that they will be driving past 3 EoS teams to play in Dundee every fortnight as it’ll be easier to travel through Perth and across to Dundee/Angus.
Going north, their nearest rivals would be Spey Valley... 87 miles and over an hour n a half away.
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Just now, Marten said:
I've been there as well, decent ground. The people I spoke to over there reckon the only reason they got turned down was clubs not fancying the travel up to Aberfeldy.
Aberfeldy is a tricky one... Where would you put them if they wanted to join the pyramid system?
They are technically NORTH of the ‘line’ but not going to fancy a Aberdeenshire or Tayside league, or NCL.
I would suggest the EoS based to being a Perthshire team and the precedent set by the 2 Perth teams and Luncarty already. Starting in a EoS North division possibly... but if promoted, I can imagine small teams from East Lothian and The Borders being concerned about the cost/time of travelling.
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On 01/05/2020 at 13:11, Ginaro said:
Seems to be Kennoway's U17s
That was just their first team the last time I saw them!
Great club though, hope they keep the majority of the young lads together and grow together. Potentially a very tidy footballing team in the making... and a proper ground with a traditional Scottish slope to boot
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14 minutes ago, tamthebam said:
That's why the pavilion at Fernieside has a sign saying "Edinburgh South FC" on it then.
Some industrious vandals in that area
Craigour actually
Think there’s always been planning issues there with the locals and access though (where else would their dugs go to shit?!), hence why Tynecastle/Tollcross had to move away.
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7 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:
Much like I said in a tweet which you just liked - Deluded. Blinkered. Embarrassing.
He’s a bitter, bitter man and given a fair chance just spat out an absolute pile of nonsense and nothing’s.He’s not the only one, Mr Parks get far too much airtime spreading unsubstantiated claims of what it means for clubs joining the pyramid.
Yes, it’s not perfect... far from it at the moment. But with people still believing that floodlights are needed to join tier 6-8 and the SPFL being rotten to the core, there is a LOT of work to be done. Non-league, community (whatever you choose to call them) clubs fighting amongst themselves is not going to change things for the better though.
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9 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:
At least we've got a rough idea who does their Twitter.
That you only just found out?! I know, the actual club secretary!
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35 minutes ago, 8MileBU said:
Another bitter red neck for Armadale.
That’s actually quite embarrassing. He gets the chance to explain his problem with the EoS setup, completely misses the target and puts it out for a throw in. Absolutely nothing meaningful said in that interview from him at all apart for the usual shout of “lies” which he doesn’t back up with ANY facts whatsoever
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Could they run the conferences with EVERYONE involved at “tier 7” with no current tier 6 for one season to get round this?
It would mean no one would be promoted to the LL for 2021-22, but considering very few clubs are currently licensed and new licenses may well not be ready in time, it wouldn’t make much of a difference...
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1 hour ago, snoopdd said:
Season 2019/20 Edinburgh South sat ams and Edinburgh South Vic's merged and under the banner of Edinburgh South, so there would be no merger if the same club already
Could Drum Park at the top of Ferniehill be another option if there is too many problems with planning/access rights to the old Tollcross/Tynecastle ground where they are currently based?
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36 minutes ago, Ped said:
I'm just finding it he keeps contradicting himself and argues until he changes his own mind or is proved wrong like when his posts were all for the juniors and what ever option A B Cor X Y Z was right until wasn't
He’s been doing it for months...
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9 minutes ago, spud4 said:
I think the last sentence is the one we should be worrying about more than the conferences itself sadly. It could very well be the case. The regionalising scenario for financial reasons is a very good point and understandable but the argument could be a Lanarkshire club could be better off financially with a visit from Auchinleck than it would from Rutherglen for example. All hypothetical I know and there probably isn’t a correct answer. I’m sure clubs will be heard and their opinions considered.Yeah sorry to bring the mood down but we can bang our heads working out every different possibility under the sun. But until we know when football will start again and how many teams we will actually have, it’s all a waste of time trying to dream up who will be playing who
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This is how it was split in the east....
And this is how the conferences looked. Thanks again to FWF for breaking it down so neatly
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16 minutes ago, spud4 said:
My next question was going to ask how they did it in the east? I’m not even sure it’s really the same scenario as the easy though as everyone has moved across here. Again I don’t know, personally if regionalising it would ultimately be a fair way either. Think the idea of sort of “free for all” draw makes it more appealing to everyone and not just the elite teams. If you have a hard conference then ultimately that could provide the best football next year and the most entertaining conference. It will give everyone a fair chance of qualifying for the WOS league. Think over the next season or 2 most teams will find their level but this way allows, so called smaller teams a one year free hit next season and a big chance to jump a few leagues in one season, especially if they are in a so called easier conference. Will be interesting to see where it goes for sure.The other difference in the east is that they only had to sort out 39 clubs, not 67.
I personally am not a fan of regionalising the conferences but I figured that considering the circumstances of clubs not playing for so long and the amount of teams, it might be more appetising for the first (or even the first HALF) of the season to allow clubs to catch up with finances and old friends again.My other concern is 67 is a horrible number to try and split fairly, even with a higher in maths! Although sadly, the chances of ALL 67 making it to whenever the season starts again could be quite slim. I’m not banking on even seeing a 2020-21 season tbh
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22 minutes ago, spud4 said:
Would this years junior standings be relevant when taking into account the conferences for the WOS? With the organisations being two separate entities and the addition of the 4 new teams, again coming from separate organisations, would it not be prevalent to have all teams on a level playing field and basically draw the conferences out of hat so to speak? Would this not make it fair and would not differentiate the likes of Auchinleck and Kilwinning to Saltcoats and Drumpchapel for instance who really all should be on a level playing field. Well at least at the beginning and formation of the league you would think!
Possibly not, I’m just going on how it was done in the east, although they didn’t regionalise the conferences. The situation this season is completely different so I can see why it may not be the best way, but also a random draw could end up with ALL the best teams in one conference. Therefore putting better teams a division or 2 lower than not so good teams for season 2.
The only other way is to split the season in 2 to allow teams who got an unfairly difficult conference in the first place, to find their true level for the first full season of divisions...
It will be an interesting discussion but with the LL’s track record of allowing teams to have their say, I’m sure they will come to an agreement that (almost) everyone is happy about
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I’ve thought about something similar but instead of splitting teams from the same area up, loosely keeping teams from the same area playing each other in the first season of conferences...
So you would have teams seeded based on current standings in the WJ league, with the new teams added on, and try to keep the conference’s as close as possible geographically at first
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3 hours ago, Waspie said:
The pitch at Broadford is excellent but the old Sleat and Strath park at Kinloch was special in its one way. Forest on three sides and a burn on the other. And midges.
Would’ve loved to see the old pitch down there. It’s an amazing little corner of the island that often gets forgotten about with how spectacular the north half is. Would this have been in the grounds of the Kinloch Lodge estate?
And don’t mention the midgies! They’re like flying rats down there
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43 minutes ago, Robert James said:
There is still time to put in an application to join the NCL for the 2020/21 winter, thereby testing the standard, and local interest.
Can’t see there being a 2020-21 season tbh
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51 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
The SFA/SPFL Joint Response Group do have a committee specifically planning how to manage the return of football. But I'm not sure how you're expecting "some sort of football" to be structured if you don't also discuss reconstruction. How are you planning to start back up if you don't know which teams are in which competitions?
It’s about getting it in the right order.
First priority should be planning on how to get get games/income back on, forget the league structures or how many in each league. That will be stage 2 when we have a clearer idea of when club can start earning money and in what way.
Then, depending on how many of the club we still have left at that point, talk about how they will slot into order in a league structure.
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Is there any point in talking about reconstruction until we know WHEN we are playing again. There won’t be 42 clubs left by the time this is over, is a complete waste of time. The talk should be a Plan B on how we get some sort of football/income coming back into the game
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37 minutes ago, Robert James said:
I spoke to a couple of Skye & Lochalsh club officials approx 3 years ago. Two separate responses from them , and too expensivewere :
"travelling from Portree would be too onerous" and from another,
"my club wouldn't be strong enough to play in the North Caledonian League."
I suggested possible entry into one or more of the North Caledonian Cups (like Lewis & Harris do), to 'test the water', but there was no interest. Shame.
That’s a shame but I can understand the travel issues. Portree to Inverness by bus is around 3 hours and 120 each way. So playing Thurso, Halkirk, Orkney, etc. would need a massive amount of commitment and financial backing compared to what they are used to now
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8 minutes ago, Marten said:
They're called Sleat and Strath. I've been there. They play at a ground just behind a primary school, the ground itself is really just an unenclosed pitch, but the views are wonderful. What I've seen from them I don't think they're any worse than some of the lower division junior and EOS Division 1 teams I've seen play.
Thanks for that Marten, written off the top of my head and my memory is terrible! I’ve been up at the ground a couple of times but not when there’s been a game on. My mate played them in a game in Inverness and said they were a brilliant team so I reckon they could compete in the NCL if they had a little help and backing to make it happen. Although a ‘big’ team from that area with the cream of the local players, based in say Kyle or Kyleakin could definitely do a job in the NCL. Hopefully without causing too much of a negative effect on the current amateur setup they have
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I’m sure Strath and Sleat play in the Highland Amateur Cup, decent team too. Don’t know if there’s an island rivalry that would stop them teaming up with Portree and the north teams on the Island though, or the teams on the Kyle
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2 hours ago, The Mantis said:
I can tell you off the top of my head that Stornoway was serviced from either Kyle or Mallaig at least as far back as 1947, before postcodes were introduced. So the most logical conclusion is some arsehole behind a desk in London
Think it all goes through Ullapool now... Did it not got up via plane from Glasgow Airport before, hence the PA postcode?
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1 hour ago, Robert James said:
Can't find this tweet on its website (?)
Alex Chisholm (Clach's Chairman) "wishes ambitious North Caley clubs, luck in their bid to establish a pathway to the Highland League." (as published in the Inverness Courier).
I can’t see anything on Twitter either
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Will the crowds come back?
in East of Scotland Football League
Posted · Edited by Spyro
100% this!
Clubs should be using this downtime to be exploring new concepts. I doubt it will even affect crowds at all but will give them a massive opportunity to expand the club name and also great for sponsors. Some sort of pay-per-view platform so clubs can assess footfall and make decisions on the future based on concrete numbers. It will also attract a new generation of supporters, even giving them a say in MotM decisions and a place for everyone to get together as a club to debate future ideas