Lobby Dossar
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5 hours ago, Vietnam91 said:
Even if we gave him Kelly's reported wage, do you think we could keep him when his head (and that of his agent) will be turned by wages down south which are going to be in excess of that?
The issue is both the fee being talked about and the bump in salary for him feels like it’s universally acceptable.
He’s on peanuts, even if we up his wages to anywhere near what Kelly is on, his agent has told him he’ll quadruple that to a mid table championship or top of League 1 team. So no matter what we offer him he’s offski. Let’s just hope we get the best deal we can !!!!
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53 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said:
In all my years supporting Motherwell, I don't think we've sold a goalkeeper for a transfer fee (Andy Goram to Man Utd may have had a loan fee), or brought in one from our academy (I'm not including Ross Stewart's 1 minute appearance).
Kelly being signed for a fee is an obvious exception, but generally we get keepers who arrive for free and leave for free.
We sold Keith MacRae to Manchester City
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2 hours ago, Neil86 said:
credit where credit is due, I know it ultimately boils down to the player wanting to stay but convincing him Fir park is the best place for his development is good going.
Just show them game time between Lennon Miller and Bailey Rice since his move to THE Rangers
Miller Started - 19. Sub - 7
Rice. Started - 2. Sub - 0
Both very highly thought of in the Academy but Rice decide ( more his father decided ) on a move to Ibrox
who do you think has advanced their development. ????
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5 hours ago, AJF said:
Celtic had our number the first half and should’ve been out of sight. By far the better side. Then they proceeded to chuck it.
Naw they brought on McGregor for what they thought was a cameo appearance when he was nowhere near match fit
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If this game goes ahead it means that THE RANGERS are going to play on a ploughed field on Wednesday night ……… just wait and see the outcry that causes.
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2 hours ago, AJF said:
To be honest it didn't look like Casey needed to go to ground, IMO, which has resulted in his follow through cleaning out McCausland. He gets there well ahead of McCausland and clears the ball in a normal running action. He then goes to ground after winning the ball and slides into him.
It's a moot point really as it should've simply been a foul in my opinion with no real bearing on the game (other than McCausland unfortunately picking up a knock).
Big guy hits Little guy and Little guy shits himself and pulls out of contact
Was always told when you pull out of tackles that’s when you get injured and that’s exactly what happened to McCauslnd …. … He shat himself !!!!!
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40 minutes ago, TheScarf said:
Have Rangers not realised Sima was offside so they wouldn't have got a penalty under any circumstance?
The process should have been penalty awarded then bit would be overturned for the offside decision
The fact that Collum didn’t think it was a penalty is where all this shite starts
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12 hours ago, ropy said:
Kettlewell has shown great loyalty since he came in but if Butcher is fit he needs to come in and stiffen up the defence.
Think Butcher needs some game time BUT there is no way we should be risking him on that plastic monstrosity that Killie call a football park !!!!!
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1 minute ago, Handsome_Devil said:
The way big clubs throw money at potential these days I'd be amazed if he's still a Motherwell player this time next year unless there's some 'loan back' deal agreed.
Agree … … Although I think we’ll be doing well to keep him until January
The worst case scenario would be the end of this transfer window He has started every game this season even when we played 3 games in a week. Are the club actively trying to encourage suitors????
As you say there has been some funny money paid for potential and this boy has plenty of that
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Great result yesterday … always in control and never looked like loosing a goal until the handball not much Casey could do about it
Know all the hype is about Berieth and rightly so but what about the dink pass from Lennon Miller … … sublime form a 16 year old
We are going to get a lot of money for this boy wouldn’t be surprised if the vultures start circling soon0 -
1 hour ago, welldaft said:
Not if you know what you are doing.
My use of the word speculative has created a wee reaction for whatever reason
. Maybe I should have used the word risky instead. Jesus I wish I had !
Virtually every player we sign is speculative. It may be based on lots of knowledge, but with the money we can afford to pay every signing carries a risk as to whether they perform for Motherwell or not.
At the moment it looks like a rather big mistake.
Sorry mate wasn’t having a go … … From what I’ve heard the guy can’t kick his own arse
So someone at the club fucked up Big Time
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6 hours ago, welldaft said:
. Clearly he was a speculative punt. But one that appears to have not paid off.
You don’t give speculative punts a 3 year deal !!!!!
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Am I the only one who thinks KVV will end up at MK Dons the guy who owns them is minted.
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1 hour ago, capt_oats said:
A point that is compounded by McKinstry getting splinters on his arse because we're not playing with wingers.The more games that McKinstry starts the more money we have to give Leeds
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48 minutes ago, capt_oats said:
Not according to the official site: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/player/max-johnston/
He definitely came through the academy and 2020 would be his 17th birthday We’re not allowed to sign them on a pro contract till then.
Funny how ex-pros Johnston Beattie and Miller have all allowed their kids to join the Well academy… must be doing something right And the only way we list Bailey Rice was because his old man was a die in the wool blue nose and was desperate for his boy to go to Ibrox0 -
2 hours ago, capt_oats said:
Aye.
Alexander gave him his debut when he was 17 and we had an injury crisis in the 20/21 season but this is his first established run.
He joined the club in June 2020 so in that time he's had Robinson, Alexander, Hammell plus whoever we hire next as his first team manager.
It kind of feels like his development hasn't been helped by the amount of flux we've seen in senior positions. It's all been a bit of a mess and if you believe the rumours there was a bit of friction with Alexander apparently not showing enough *trust* in Academy players in general.
Unlike someone like say, Allan Campbell, who got his debut then dropped out for a couple of months before firmly establishing himself in the first team it's never really been that clear what the plan has been with Johnston. A part of that may well be that the Reserves league is a complete fucking shitshow though.
As I say, he made his debut in the Covid season, was loaned out to QoS 21/22 but picked up an injury for the 2nd half of that one. Then was loaned out to Cove for the first half of this season after Alexander fell out with SOD, signed McGinn as a replacement before being emptied himself after Sligo which left us with 3 right backs.
He was being linked with Championship clubs as far back as last summer so his Mr 20% getting his name in the papers isn't anything new here although going by the reporting from the AGM last month Hammell was apparently confident that he'd sign a new deal.
In fairness I can't say I blame him for holding off on committing on anything as there's a legitimate question of what the f**k is actually going on at the club in terms of senior positions and general direction.
He’s been at the club since he was 12 years old
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2 hours ago, Quatermass said:
Is it the general understanding that Jim Goodwin didn’t apply? His name was all over it then nothing. Possibly a bit sickened by his time at Aberdeen that he feels it is too soon to jump straight in to a relegation battle that if he loses he’d struggle for another decent job again.
Could effect his compensation from Aberdeen if he takes a job so soon after leaving.
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4 hours ago, Darren said:
Might have got more if it wasn't Motherwell selling the tickets. No loyalty points has put off a few folk I know.
That’s cause you abuse the concession tickets Adults buying student tickets Motherwell raised it with Hertz but they did nothing about hence we are now selling the tickets ourselves
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40 minutes ago, welldaft said:
Get someone in who is willing to try and get the squad playing football and that the players may well respect and respond too.
Not really interested in them playing football just get someone who can organise a defence and making us hard to beat. 0 - 0 from now till the end of the season would do just fine.
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1 hour ago, Kapowzer said:
This plan to look for a benevolent angel, business etc. and its failure to be launched was a major oversight if, as described the way to be a true safety net.
About 18 months ago an American businessman who was interested in investing significant money was introduced to the club through a 3rd party. Discussions went on for 3 or 4 months then the club decided against it for whatever reasons. Not sure of the reasons but I’m sure being fan owned and the amount of control they wanted would have something to do with it. If people are going to invest a significant amount of money they then want some say is how the club is run.
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23 minutes ago, dezz said:
That’s good news. Much sooner than I thought after the video he posted on IG around New Year when he could hardly walk. Hopefully he picks up where he left off to give us another option and some much needed pace.
Mid February likely to be back in training …. … be lucky if we see him back this season
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Max Johnston is a 100% improvement on SOD …… not sure how he can play today do Cove not have a game tomorrow
Get the boy back down the road and get him into the team
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60mins in and we’ve emptied the bench … … interesting Barry Maguire playing centre-half
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Only change at H/T Oxborough for Kelly … … not surprised thought Kelly was at fault for 2 of the goals
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Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Think some on here need a reality check on where we are as a club. Yip fan ownership is great but sorry our fanbase just does not support it. So where does the money come from with the greatest respect to the WS raffles and race nights ain’t going to cut it. Inward investment is essential so who on the Board or WS board can provide that. Energetic amateurs have no chance.
Let’s look at Hertz as an example 17k members and over 17k season tickets and a philanthropist throwing in couple of million every now and then.
Apart from us St Mirren and the two cheeks of the same arse every other club in the league now has people willing to put money in. Hell Billy Bowie was prepared to pay Van Veen £5k a week even when McKinnes didn’t want him.