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  1. 59 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

    Can’t comment on the season tickets but is it my imagine or did Livvy not just sell Dykes for £2m ? Even if it’s a structured deal over a period of time I don’t think they’ll be skint !!

    I genuinely hope not. This may surprise a few folk, but I don't like to see clubs go to the wall, and given the current climate that's distinctly possible, unfortunately. 

  2. 1 hour ago, LiviLion said:

    St Mirren fans have this weird need to have a rivalry with Livingston, eh? They must miss Morton. 

    Shame no one gives enough of a f**k about their tinpot little club. 

    I don't really think about Morton, to be honest. I've always wanted a rivalry with Thistle, as I have often worked with their supporters and they're more our level. 

    I was just wondering whether you'd really only sold 200 STs. Genuinely. See Cambiebud's reply:

    https://www.blackandwhitearmy.com/forums/index.php?/topic/50928-kristian-dennis/page/3/#comments

    Do you not see any irony in calling a club founded in 1877 'tinpot', given your own club's history? You're basically a franchise. 

    2 hours ago, crispy said:

    The Old Firm and Edinburgh clubs thing is without doubt the biggest challenge. Do you think affluence has any role? I read an article that said women in Livingston were joint lowest paid in the Lothians. I can’t imagine the men are making that much more. There are low income areas dotted across the country so it may not be a significant differentiator.

    I think it's probably also attributable to the fact Livingston is a new town, and folk have roots elsewhere. Clyde and Livingston are similar in that respect. 

  3. 2 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

    Nicely put.:thumsup2

     

    Sorry to disappoint,  apparently we've just come into a wee windfall.

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    Aye, I was a bit blunt, admittedly. I actually have a lot of respect for Livi fans. Your club not only lives in the shadow of the OF, with umpteen buses departing for Glasgow each week, no doubt, but also the Edinburgh clubs. You had a pretty good season last year, and yet are still struggling to sell STs.

    We've sold > 3,200, despite preserving our top flight status in the last game of the season. 

  4. 1 hour ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

    No mate, what’s happened is that the emergency call has gone in and the responder has asked the crucial question ‘what colour is the attacker?’. After learning that the attacker is, in fact, non-white, he has hit the ‘send armed response unit’ button as opposed to the ‘send social services’ one. It’s clear as day. ACAB

    I can't tell whether this is satire or not, anymore.

  5. 4 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said:

    I'm thinking 6 people being stabbed gives a bit of a clue to how dangerous he was.

    If he was a white guy they must have shot him, as an absolute last resort, because he was dangerous. If it was a black dude, they probably just did it for fun, or because they could. Isn't that the narrative?

  6. Just now, Detournement said:

    The UK exported grain from Bengal and Ireland during famines. Probably other places as well. 

     

    I know. That's why certainly the Irish 'famine' can rightly be considered a genocide.

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    James Pius Sweeney of New York, writing in the Irish-American paper, the Irish Echo, while acknowledging that there were differences between the Famine and the Holocaust, went on to argue:‘The genocide of the Holocaust was remarkable because of the macabre efficiency of freight cars, camps and gas houses. The genocide of the Great Famine is distinct in the fact that the British created the conditions of dire hopelessness, and desperate dependence on the potato crop through a series of sadistic, debasing, premeditated and barbarous Penal Laws, which deliberately and systematically stripped the Irish of even the least semblance of basic human freedom.’When blight struck the Irish were ‘totally vulnerable’. This was a ‘nuanced genocide’, he continues, one that manipulated fate ‘by pushing a people to the brink of annihilation and turning away so not to hear the wailing …’.

     

    Put briefly and more bluntly, professors Charles Rice and Francis Boyle believe: ‘the policies pursued by the British government from 1845-50 in Ireland constituted ‘genocide’.’

    Source: https://www.qub.ac.uk/sites/irishhistorylive/IrishHistoryResources/Articlesandlecturesbyourteachingstaff/TheGreatIrishFamineandtheHolocaust/#:~:text=The genocide of the Great,Irish of even the least

    One could argue that genocide is when a government intentionally kills people, ans this was just callous indifference. But if you're confiscating food from people who are starving, that amounts to murder, surely?

  7. 3 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

    To get back on topic, much to the disappointment of Burnley fans and other racists everywhere, "The incident has been assessed by Counter Terrorism policing HQ in London and determined not to be a terrorist incident. It will be investigated by Police Scotland."

    Racists? I've been told it was an attack on asylum seekers by a neo-Nazi?!

  8. 4 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

    Again an oversimplified view. China was exporting food because it believed it had a surplus. The central party were not made aware of the extent of the deficit due to regional party officials attempts to look as tho they were surpassing their quotas. The point remains it was bad management that contributed to those deaths. Not the great spookter of Communism. That same poor management is just as prevalaint in other systems of government. The same thing STILL happens in capitalist states.

    Woah! That's some psychopathic shit right there - people are starving to death and regional party officials are only worrying about surpassing their quotas? Or were they just terrified of the consequences of not meeting quotas.

    Anyway, comrade. The revolution might happen this decade, so who would you put up against the wall first? Tories, bankers, fascists...people who wear glasses? 😄

  9. 5 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

    It basically lists every "non natural" death in any communist state. It's laughable.

    To take deaths due to famine during the Great Leap Forward in China, for instance, there's no doubt there were huge mistakes made by the Maoists in moving to a centralised agricultural system (to say nothing of their ridiculous personal blast furnaces idea). Their ideas were based on a scientific ideal that has since been disproved and many people within communism went along with it blinded by the fact it fitted communism ideals. It was also during the worst period of natural disasters (first famine, then flood) in areas of China that meant even a "perfect" agricultural system would have led to deaths.

    So did deaths occur due to a combination of poor agricultural practise and natural disasters? Were people who forwarded this bad practise blinded by ideology? Yes. Is it easy to blame that on just "communism"? Yes. Is that accurate? Of course not. Otherwise we need to blame every single death by famine outwith communism as a death by capitalism and those who use the Black Book as a basis are usually not keen on using that same methodology in reverse.

    China was exporting food whilst people were starving. In the Ukraine food was confiscated from people who were starving at gun point. So, aye, they starved to death, but the Holodomor was a deliberate act, whilst in China the government could have prevented it. Still, you get the government you vote for, oh wait... 

  10. 4 minutes ago, coprolite said:

    I can't believe people have taken this as a cue for another tedious politics debate. 

    People have died in horrific circumstances. It's not an appropriate time to discuss politics. We should be putting that aside and making tasteless jokes instead. 

    I'm sure the puns will start once we know more about the victims and attacker's motive. 😄

    I remember how I learned of Princess Diana's death, a pal rang me up and said, "Did you hear Princess Diana was on the radio last night..."

  11. 53 minutes ago, ali_91 said:

    This is lazy and absolute nonsense by the way. There is absolutely no comparison between the far right and the far left other than both tend to be set in their ways and don’t really have much time for opposing opinions. That’s where the similarities end.

    The far right hate people based on anything that makes them different, hence why you see thousands and thousands of tweets talking about multi-culturism failing  as soon as there is any hint of an attack. These people are despicable and hold despicable opinions.

    The far left jump to premature conclusions because they are desperate to protect the people that are oppressed in this country. Whilst they can be a bit nuts and unreasonable, their hearts tend to be in a good place.

    The only people that seem to want to say ‘two cheeks one arse‘ are those on the centre right.  
     

    Happy to hear a rebuttal on why they are as bad as each other, but got a feeling It will be a massive stretch whatever you come up with.

     

    The far left did kill approximately 100 million people last century...but other than that, they're lovely people. 

  12. 36 minutes ago, JTS98 said:

    While that's true, it's also true that black people commit a disproportionally high amount of crime in America.

    For example, according to the Department of Justice more than 50% of murders in the USA are committed by black people. Back in 2002 a think tank mob produced a study that said black offender-white victim robberies were 12 times more common in American than the reverse. Black people account for 35% of gang membership in the USA.

    To any sensible mind, all of these things are quite easily explained by history and economic conditions. But for the discussion of this issue to go anywhere there has to be acceptance of facts. Not just the facts people like.

    It is a fact that black people in America are responsible for a disproportionate level of crime. It is also an established fact that men commit more crime than women. Therefore, it shouldn't really be a surprise that black men are the section of the US population who attract the most heat from the police.

    10 million arrests are carried out in the USA every year. Every time someone resits arrest in the USA using physical force, it is reasonable that the copper assumes his or her life is in danger, since they are carrying a gun they can be shot with if they are overpowered. It's easy to see why some of these incidents will get out of hand. The relatively high representation of black people in criminality means that this will affect them more than other sections of society.

    I don't doubt there are plenty of racist police. There are racists everywhere. I don't doubt that some incidents are caused or exacerbated by racist police. But I think the public discussion on this issue is missing a sober and difficult analysis of the facts.

    While black people are worse off than white people, black people will commit more crime. While black people commit more crime, the police will continue to have an eye out for them. In a highly-armed society that is and will continue to be a recipe for disaster.

    This is, at heart, an economic issue. Taking a knee, having a slogan, celebrity support etc are all things that can be admirable, but they are not what is going to sort this problem out. Part of sorting the problem out is an acknowledgement that this is not as simple as the police all being racist.

     

    There you go again with your facts and statistics!

    "FaCtS dOn'T MaTtEr, It'S fEeLiNgS tHaT cOuNt!" - they probably think you should be locked up for some sort of hate crime, as those facts are RaCiSt!

    No wonder half of the folk that frequent the politics forum also post in the depression thread, and wonder why people vote Tory. I laugh at their stupidity. 

     

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