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4 hours ago, PedroMoutinho said:
In an ideal world we would not be in our fourteenth season outside the top flight.
I would suggest a fourth stand is the least of our concerns at the moment.
Of course it is but the disconnect from the club and manner in which the foundation is being run at the moment most certainly should be a concern.
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6 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said:
It’s on club land so you have to assume the club are happy with whatever gets built.
How far does the land the club have extend? I wasn’t actually sure where the boundary was. Thought it might just have been in line with where the hypothetical 4th stand would sit and no further?
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39 minutes ago, Bigbrbairn said:
For me the problem with the development is not the positioning but the disconnect by the Foundation from the club itself.
Precisely, any development should be a joint venture considering ways of maximising benefits to all parties including the club itself. At the very least there needs to be consultation. In an ideal world any construction should sensibly be incorporating a 4th stand where the club already have outline planning permission to build.
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10 minutes ago, latapythelegend said:
It's a money grabbing con. £35 person that per player in the foundation. They rake in thousands per month and associated teams still have to raise their own funds for everything other than matchday strips.
Said this previously but it’s something the club really need to seriously look at while the foundation are trading and actively using the football clubs brand, facilities and fan base to attract kids. Although unfortunately it appears we actually have very little control over how the foundation operate now with the club not even having a seat on its board so I’m not sure how we’d go about trying to implement change as things stand. The club either need to gain some level of control where by we can influence these things or if push comes to shove the nuclear option would be to stop the foundation using the clubs brand, logo, strips, facilities ect and we look to do something more in house as was done previously pre foundation with Falkirk FC in the community.
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4 minutes ago, AJ1981 said:
if you look at the foundation board it's a teacher, 2 accountants, 2 in healthcare, 1 in what looks like PR and a professional board member of unknown experience, where's the sport or football knowledge? where's the business leadership experience? who needs 2 accountants ffs?
It’s completely ridiculous the club have no representation on that board whatsoever yet it’s marketed at kids looking to play football as the “Falkirk Foundation” using the club badge and football strips. That in itself needs to change.
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2 minutes ago, AJ1981 said:
the football is a cash cow for one glorified backslapping ego trip, the club are scrapping pennies together to get out of the league and the foundation are leaving fans short changed while sending people to Greece for a fucking conference its a disgrace.
Unless there is some dialogue and meaningful change the club should seriously consider bringing the football back in house and stop the foundation using the clubs name, the clubs brand, the clubs strips ect.
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The club need to have a serious conversation with the foundation, if the football side of things is no longer a priority for them and the club have no meaningful control or input to change that then we really can’t afford to be associated/affiliated with the organisation anymore in a footballing sense (particularly when it appears the football side of things and association with the club is now only being used as a cash cow) and should perhaps look to stop the foundation marketing to these kids as being part of the football club. It’s the clubs brand and reputation at the end of the day and if could be brought back in house somehow as it was previously then that may need to be looked at.
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12 minutes ago, AJ1981 said:
aye, raking the cash in by adding team after team and don't provide any support or infrastructure. all using the club's logo and good will. then declare that football is secondary and charity work is a priority, as well as the staff and trustees slapping themselves on the back telling everybody how good they are. it's a fucking disgrace. i've kept quiet for what seems like forever but shutting down the dev team and withdrawing from the east league is the final straw for me, these people are charlatans.
Spoke to a parent today , his son has not long left Bo’Ness to play for a foundation ran team and he’s anything but impressed. One coach to 20 boys most of the time, £40 a month and apparently outwith the coaching all the kids get is a strip. The Bo’ness team periodically took the kids away day trips to various places, they got home and away kits along with branded tracksuits, ruck sacks and water bottles ect with lower monthly fees.
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28 minutes ago, AJ1981 said:
heard the same, sort of, they are using the club to advance their own agendas, taking most of their money from parents and fans who identify with the club all while they see themselves as separate from the club and on a different path altogether. this latest shit show is disgusting when they have serious dough in the bank, £80,000 at the last accounts.
Full thing needs a shake up, maybe the club needs to start taking a harder line with the foundation, sounds like a number of hangers on and blazer chasers causing issues within the organisation very similar to how the club once was. For one reason or another the two organisations have drifted way too far apart. The foundation only exists because of the club, previous to the charity being set up the club done this completely by themselves through Falkirk FC in the community, the club shouldn’t be in a position where the tail is wagging the dog here. If the foundation are no longer interested in the football side of things and the club has no meaningful input then a new arrangement needs to be considered. They are using the club brand , club facilities and trading on the back of the Falkirk support where most fans are under the impression the foundation and club are one and the same, that clearly is no longer the case.
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19 minutes ago, AJ1981 said:
he is still on the board of behind the goals a position fully supported by the foundation, their chairman charles macdonald keeps him there as he is his pal.
Why are the foundation even involved with the south stand bar in the first place?! Surely that’s purely the clubs domain and revenue stream, Sandy Alexander owning the stand and the club paying full rent to him for using it. Get AT to f**k, he was part of the previous regime that nearly sunk the club. It’s starting to sound like the inner workings of the Falkirk foundation have been going under the radar and need a closer look, surely at least the footballing side of the organising needs to run in conjunction with the club with oversight from both parties?
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1 hour ago, Bainsfordbairn said:
I have no knowledge of overall Foundation finances and so can’t comment on them.
As for “excelling at”, I have an extremely biased opinion because I’m heavily invested in the womens team. I have friendships with coaches which go back years and spend every Sunday travelling all over the country to support them. It was just over a year ago when I had a fourteen hour day taking some of our players to Golspie in my car, as did the coaches, so that the girls could play a Scottish cup tie in a town not far from Wick.
I don’t believe the Foundation excel at supporting their womens team.
One of the things that frustrates me is that Falkirk women are at the bottom of the pyramid with only the regional leagues below them. Big names such as Spartans and Montrose are three leagues above us. Gartcairn, Boroughmuir Thistle, Stirling University, Glasgow Women (not City) are two leagues above. Rossvale, East Fife, Dryburgh, Renfrew, Westdyke & Hutchison Vale are one league above. Those are massive clubs for our girls to try and compete with.
I’d love to know what support those teams get from their parent organisation that allows them to be so much better than Falkirk.
Might be worth raising at the upcoming FSS AGM, not sure how much control the club have over the foundation now right enough but they should certainly be an active partner and able to influence the football type aspects which this is. Pre creation of the foundation it was “Falkirk in the community” which was obviously completely and solely ran by the club so i’d like to think we still have some influence over the footballing side of things which most certainly should include the woman’s teams.
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8 hours ago, Bainsfordbairn said:
We’ve had a womens development team for a number of years and some really good players have come from it. Current womens first team goalkeeper Rachel Pirie, midfielder Iona Bridges and winger Ella Stewart spring to mind. The first two are superb and the third has massive potential.
The development team suffered a major setback earlier in the season when one of their coaches left to join another club and took a large number of players with him. There are no transfer windows or rules surrounding player movements at this level.
However, they attempted to rebuild and had found enough players to make up a new team.
Before I go into the next part, I should explain that all womens football at Falkirk is amateur and costs money to participate. To cover fees for referees, pitch hire, strips, travel, etc. In many cases, amateur teams raise money from monthly player fees. The senior womens team have scrapped those. Our A licence coaches have given up any reimbursement and the team is paid for by fundraising and sponsorship from various companies. It was done that way to make it easier to attract good players. Every one of us who help the Falkirk womens team do it for the love of the game and are out of pocket because of it. Falkirk FC cover my fuel costs if I drive to Kelty to shoot the first team, as I did on Saturday, but if I drive to Dundee to shoot the women it costs me £sss.
That’s not a complaint and it’s no big deal for me, but it is for the girls. This is a direct quote from one of our former development players as to why they all left.
"None of them have committed because of the massive monthly fee and not getting anything in return"
It’s one of the reasons why I’ve posted a few times online about womens sponsorship. And why I’d love to see our girls team brought into the main football club instead of being with the Foundation. A tiny fraction of the mens first team budget would transform our womens team.
I’d have thought the women’s team would be exactly the sort of thing the foundation should be excelling at, are the issues all purely around funding? I was under the impression the foundation was awash with money. Did they not just receive a 400k government grant? There was also 20k surplus they were given from the money fans raised doing the KM7 stand at the beginning of last season which I am told was meant to be for funding a sensory center within the stadium, as far as I’m aware that still hasn’t happened so presumably the money should still be sitting there, perhaps somebody from the club could politely suggest they use some of those funds to help the girls out if the sensory center isn’t going to happen.
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Just imagine what would probably have happened if the club had went for the knee jerk reaction and binned Mcglynn after the Airdrie play off? It would have been yet another cycle of new manager, paying players off, more crazy player turnover in the summer ect ect. Thankfully calmer heads prevailed, on the whole last season was very decent considering where we were starting from, Dunfermline were just that bit more consistent then we cracked up in the later part of the season after it became obvious we weren’t going to catch them. In hindsight I’m glad the Airdrie result wasn’t looked at in isolation and we stuck by the manager and the plan looking at a bigger picture otherwise more upheaval would most likely would just have seen the club continue to spiral.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBairn said:
Taking the Falkirk rose tinted specs off for a second, from Ethan’s point of view, there’s the potential to be playing in the Premier if Raith went up and offered him an extension on more money. So the out of contract players will be weighing up scenarios of their own. With that in mind, (per bairn88’s comments) perhaps a little caution with the club’s purse is a good thing.
Ross said he has yet to receive an offer from Raith, I don’t think he’s in a position to be to demanding or picky if we are indeed trying to sign him. He’s most certainly good enough and has shown it when he’s played, only having arguably the two best players in the league in front of him with Miller and Morrison has limited his appearances. I hope we are trying to keep him, having both him and Alfie on the bench gives us excellent depth and has no doubt kept both Miller and Morrison on their toes. A few bad games for either of them and nobody would bat an eye lid at either of them switching out for either Ross or Alfie.
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8 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:
Rudden, Byrne and Ashcroft won't have been cheap loans for a start. Then there's paying money for Jack Hamilton on a 3 year deal.
They won't be anywhere near Dundee United's wage bill but they'll have players on more than us. Did they even offer Lang & Spencer a new deal?
Yes, both had pretty well reported options of 1 year extensions on the table.
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3 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:
Add Rothy Ravers to that list too.
I know the new owners are putting extra finance in but are they really spending that big comparatively to the other teams on players? We were obviously able to match or better the extensions they’d offered both Lang and Spencer.
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29 minutes ago, Springfield said:
Counting UTD as SPL team
Queen’s Park are also paying fortunes, you think Danny Wilson came back from America for £500 a week? The team or teams relegated will also have players tied up on big money as well which they’re parachute payments will cover, especially if Ross County are one of them where McGregor will predictably bankroll a promotion push like he’s done after previous relegations. Outwith those two or three clubs I’d like to think with a few more FSS sign ups we’d be able to be competitive budget wise with any of the other clubs however.
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Must be getting a good few quid extra, might need to put the FSS minimum up to £20 a month! Lol
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3 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:
So wait a minute is that him signing a pca for Linfield then
Thought he was going to Hamilton?
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2 hours ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said:
So two thirds of the season gone and thought I'd look at how the top two compare from last season
To this season
In conclusion, most other seasons Hamilton would still be in a title fight. But we have absolutely cruised it
Some of the Hamilton fans really need to have a look at this to put their season into perspective. Some delusions of grandeur over there. If we had binned Mcglynn at this point last season like they want to with Rankin where would we be now?
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20 minutes ago, Hisingdoon said:
The keepers make mistakes but the rest of the team have bailed them out for it and as you say we’re harsh on the keepers probably because we have had so many shit keepers
A steady reliable goalkeeper would make a massive difference to that 11, it’s the only position I’d say we’ve had any significant issues with.
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1 hour ago, Disco Duck said:
Miller looked out on his feet about half way through the second half, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Ross starts.
Thought this as well, Ross was also pretty lively when he came on. Would be happy if that switch was made.
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17 minutes ago, Ian Mcleod said:
He's an OK manager and usually does get results however it ended at Raith because he signed a certain player which put Raith in jeopardy (not saying he was the only person who made the decision though) there's certainly a big difference from the championship to league 1 in my opinion which will be hard for players who've played in league 1 for a couple of seasons to get used to. Arbroath likely going down means unless a PT team won the playoffs all of the championship will be FT next season it will certainly be interesting to see what happens in that league next season.
That’s not factually correct is it? The baggage the Goodwillie signing entailed obviously factored in his decision to leave but at the end of the day he was still offered a years extension when Falkirks interest became apparent and despite unrest from some Raith fans he could just as easily have chosen to stay and front it out.
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6 minutes ago, Ian Mcleod said:
I don't know about that we all know how it ended for McGlynn at Raith.
I’d ended because he rejected a contract extension and singed one with Falkirk , don’t see how that changes the fact he finished 2nd with them in the season immediately after promotion.
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Re training facilities: The club do also have use of little Kerse again at no cost other than maintaining the pitches (a club sponsor has offered to do this). That deal was done at the beginning of last season but Mcglynn opted to use the stadium for training instead.