VincentGuerin

Football is a partisan thing and (most) Hibs fans will defend this to the hilt. Just the way it is. The pitfalls are obvious though. Hibs fans are currently falling over themselves to assert that "we're all feeder clubs anyway!!!", but, as pointed out by Craigkillie above, this is a massive false equivelance on their part. Simple example being Hearts with Shankland. If it comes to selling him, we'll be selling him at a time and fee that we consider to be to our advantage. Or we'll keep him. We won't have a big brother elsewhere leaning on us )or outright forcing us) to sell to them when it suits them and for a fee they find convenient. It's also not clear what leverage Hibs will have to fix things here if they find this does not work to their advantage. I'm against multi-club groups etc in principal. For me it's akin to the B-Team disgrace. When you have teams participating in a competition whose function is to serve someone else higher up the chain, you devalue that competition. It could be Hibs, Hearts, St Mirren. Doesn't matter. When our clubs lose autonomy that is a bad thing. No ifs or buts. I doubt this will be the last of these types of things we'll see. But for me it's part of a slow erosion of our game. This is the direction of travel for modern football, but it's one that should be resisted.

Alex Neil would be an excellent choice, but I've got no idea if he'd be interested. He'll likely fancy his chances of further work in England. Hopefully they'll go for Robinson. He'd probably be rubbish and the St Mirren fans' meltdown would be good.

Jim Hamilton must be it. Was always surprised more didn't come of his career after he impressed early on in a really good Hearts team.

I'm going to leave the thread now. @JD and associates has twice been reported for the same thing. Admin deleted the thread and took no action last time.

People can give and take it without baselessly (and repeatedly) accusing others of racism.

Touched a nerve as you know it's true. Nobody will lift a finger. There won't even be a phoenix club.

You did. And got a thread deleted. You should have been banned. I imagine you'll get yourself banned in future, so no worries. I look forward to raising a glass to your club's demise.

You go on about this so much that I'm actually tempted to 1) tell the missus we need to get married. 2) get become racist 3) get in a fight on a bus all to make your wee fantasy come true. You're wired to the fucking moon. And your (stolen) team is going bust.

You're an idiot.

I think you've misunderstood, respectfully. Nobody wants him sacked.

Our champion. The man carrying the hopes of the nation. Get this vile footballing experiment relegated and consigned to the rubbish bin of liquidation ASAP. Ross County; we are with you. xxxxxx

Fans are too quick to judge and clubs never give a coach time these days. Stick with Baz.

Shielding the ball is allowed. Tripping is not. I mean, I've literally pasted the laws of the game for you.

Ok, Ric.

Ken. No idea.

There have been various numbers run on this. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9413155/ This study reckons 92% pre-VAR 98% with VAR. I don't think that's worth it. Maybe you do. The rest of it, I can't be bothered with. I honestly just think you're talking mince and going over ground that's been covered loads of times. Substitutions and throw-ins have been improvements in the game. The passback rule was an improvement in the game. I don't comprehend how anyone can consider VAR to have been an improvement in the game. You do, I don't, I'm not spending all day going over old ground with you.

I agree the linesman (right next to it) and the ref should have spotted it between them. Mentioned it above. I think if the goal had been allowed to stand, it would be fair to say Hearts would have been rightly miffed.

A lot of this is stuff that has been addressed countless times. 1) The laws of the game were broadly fine. Football's the most popular sport on the planet and we shouldn't be altering its laws to suit the use of technology that the sport doesn't need, and that only marginally increases the number of correct calls when the vast majority were correct pre-VAR. 2) The timing issue will never be fixed. And this is no great secret. If you're going to check for a handball in the box, then you need to check that phase of play for offside and other potential offences. There is no way to do that that doesn't take time. The idea we should give officials 10 seconds to decide if there's an issue gives us the worst of both worlds; constantly stopping the game needlessly, but then making them rush and possibly get it wrong or miss things anyway. Bad idea. 3) I want to go back to the game being officiated by the officials on the pitch. What's hard to comprehend about that? Most deisions were right anyway, and the game was better to watch.

I am completely against VAR and would never have introduced it and would bin it tomorrow. But we need to discuss reality here, and it is used, so let's take that as our starting point. Miovski is unlucky. I don't think he trips Beni on purpose. But the fact remains that it has a material impact on what happens next. Beni can't shut his man down, the ball goes into the box, and a goal is scored. The fact that Miovski didn't mean it and then scored a nice finish does not change the fact that the foul helped Aberdeen score the goal. I don't agree that disallowing it is a travesty. The goal was assisted by the foul. In general, get VAR in the bin. Absolutely. But as long as it's used, that's never going to be a goal.

We really don't need to discuss this further. https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/laws-of-the-game-2023-24?l=en A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force: • charges • jumps at • kicks or attempts to kick • pushes • strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt) • tackles or challenges • trips or attempts to trip You'll note that the laws of the game have no requirement for tripping to be deliberate to be a foul. There's really mothing to debate here. It's an open and shut case.

Sometimes they are given, and I'd argue they should be given more often. But I think refs generally find them hard to call. Sometimes it's just a collision and you can't tell who initiated it, or often both did. As for accidentally tripping an opponent; that is a foul and has been as long as I've been watching the game. Relatively few fouls are actually deliberate. Miovski tripped Beni, impeding him in attempting to close down an opponent. It's a foul. Tripping is a foul. Again, I understand fans being frustrated, especially as you went on to lose. But it's a non-controversial free-kick award. In the VAR era there's no way it could not have been given.

Yes. It is.

The SPFL introduced THE POSSIBILITY of relegation from its bottom tier as part of the deal for improved conditions. And that process is contrived to keep clubs like your snuggly in the SPFL set-up. You are a footballing "have". Then even if you somehow manage to drop out of the SPFL, you go into the Lowland Leauge, which itself has limits on when it'll allow relegation. You just perceive this differently because of your club's position in the ladder. It's not all that much different. Anyway. SPL is a good name. Bring it back.

Belgium's P&B is going to be awash with fans of any club wronged by an official demanding a replay. And I'm sure some coaches etc. And why the f**k not? If you can get a replay after you've got beat, people will push for it. Fucking stupid.

Come on, now. Let's not be silly. Short of sniper in the stand, there is no reason for Beni to go down. He's moving towards blocking the pass. If Miovski had been running into the box and Beni had accidentally clipped him in the same way, you'd be on here (correctly) arguing it was an obvious penalty. I understand you're frustrated. But it was a foul.