ExiledLichtie

Just let it be over. I can't believe I'm saying this, but this needs to be a proper shaming before the meet the manager event takes place.

Agreed. Fresh start needed.

The boy seems to get a payrise every time he is mentioned.

I'd like to imagine it will be civil. Surely nobody is going to go to one of these things with the intention of acting the arsehole. But this has left me absolutely despondent. I just find it absolutely unfathomable that we could go into the new season with McIntyre as the manager. It absolutely kills the excitement of the new season. It would just be such a massive self inflicted own goal. There's so much gloom around the club already, and our approach is "more of this please". Insanity. Do we particularly fancy league 2?

We are so doomed.

That Ranger's statement is remarkable, I come on this thread all looking forward to laughing at Dundee's repeated inability to drain a pitch, but that one read of that statement and I'm immediately on team Dundee.

They have some nerve, didn't they need a set of waders to get around their own pitch at one point?

I think that might be the issue...

Here we are again. All marvelling at how a pitch at the top of a hill manages to get waterlogged while everywhere else in Dundee is fine. Too busy throwing cash about on wages and racking up huge losses. Typical Dundee.

Its a sad day when I find myself not trusting a word the club says.

I've absolutely got the fear. We can't go into the new season with McIntyre, we just can't. It seems almost like willful self sabotage. I mentioned a few days back how we went with continuity with Brownlie and Kirk after we got relegated, and it was a disaster. We just can't do that! On another note, that's Booner away, new company in: https://www.arbroathfc.co.uk/peter-clark-and-pac-garden-services-thank-you/

Nononono! You have to win the playoffs. One of the consolations of being relegated is that we don't need to play you any more. Don't take this from us!

Do you not have a pitch to be swimming in?

Thinking back to last time we were relegated, we had an awful squad of players that were barely even league 2, an absolute bare bones new stand, a crumbling terracing with a limited capacity, and a huge debt. This time round, it isn't even close. We have money in the bank, top of the line hospitality, and a fully modernised stadium with new gates, new barriers, better segregation, repaired terracing, refurbished dressing rooms and stand, additional toilets, and a much more professional off the pitch set up. Oh, and the memories have been amazing! Beating the Dundee teams on the pitch as equals, seeing 5,000+ people in the ground for league games, watching Nouble cheat code his way through the league, taking Killie all the way, seeing us absolutely shitfest teams with some truly epic timewasting, its been brilliant. This time round, being in the championship has been good for us, and I don't think that was necessarily the case last time. I think this is what makes us different from some of the other part time clubs who have had championship runs. We invested our money wisely off the pitch. Yes, some aspects will need to be downsized, sponsorship income will shrink, crowds will fall, but we are in a good place as a club. I think the key will be to make a fresh start of things in the summer, and to try and look forward to winning some games and scoring some goals in what should be a much more competitive league. Hopefully our board will be able to look at the things that aren't working (our social media has been poor, and probably building a housing estate in Inverkeilor off of short term lets) and fix them, and hopefully they will pick a good manager.

What was the sending off for?

In a way, its a weird relief that its officially confirmed. I'm already looking forward to next season under a fresh manager. Lets get him punted, give Gold the caretaker gig for a few games and then get a permanent manager in place the moment the season is over. Its been good fun being a big club, but it had to end at some point! The good news is that the investments we've made in the ground and the facilities we've put in place will stand us in good stead for decades.

I think we all know why McKenna isn't starting, which means that in this no-win scenario, I am going to move smoothly from criticising McIntyre for being a weak manager, to criticising him for not picking our best player and the most likely to make something happen.

Ooft.

Are you saying that you didn't previously have any issues with poor drainage and postponed games?

Isn't that the point everyone has been making though? We spent part of our budget on infrastructure in recent years. So new facilities, improved conditions in the stadium, better fan experience, and yes, that likely meant we probably didn't have as big a player budget as we potentially could have if we just decided to sit in squalor in a run down shambles of a swamp.

Are you saying your pre-season work was adequate?

Are you saying that this is an unknown problem that never occurred before this season?

Its tinpot. You could spend some money and fix it? You know, like every other club with a stadium not fit for purpose has to?

At this point, there's a non zero chance that either team could be led out by Yogi!

Correct. Any manager with any authority about him at all would see McKenna dropped for tomorrow at the very least. He agreed with a facebook post calling for the manager to go. Dick would probably have run McKenna's flayed hide up the flagpole as a message to everyone. Other managers might have been less extreme, but only the weak and the desperate would play him. Of course, if he doesn't play him, the fans will absolutely crucify him. He can't win here. It might not be fair, but its the situation we are in.