Durnford Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Genuinely, how on earth do you think that running a full time set up is achievable on your crowds? There's no way your posting a profit or breaking even. Not that its really any of your concern but actually I believe we have now reported making a small trading profit for three years running now Edited December 28, 2017 by Durnford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Talk to me about Pittman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I can understand @Livi's concerns with our history but John Ward genuinely seems like a breath of fresh air compared to our rogues gallery of previous helmsmen. He's running the club like a business and letting the football minded people run the football side by the sounds of it. I have faith that the right man is in charge...there may be some tough decisions to make in the future but I'm sure any decision made by John and the team will be for the benefit of Livingston FC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, gav-ffc said: Talk to me about Pittman. Fantastic player that we picked up from the juniors. Story is he's just signed a new 2 year deal too. I'm sure he has a brother that plays too...maybe Falkirk should try him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Not that its really any of your concern but actually I believe we have now reported making a small trading profit for three years running now A quick look at your website says that was largely down to having Hibs, Rangers and Hearts during that time, that your estimated to make a loss for your year in league 1, will be interesting to see how your accounts fare this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogieLivi Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Really hoping that these signing rumours are true. Including getting Austin. In reference to the mistake in the book, it states that Dominic Keane was not at the CIS cup final. The pictures immediately after the final whistle prove otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Grant228 said: 10 minutes ago, Durnford said: Not that its really any of your concern but actually I believe we have now reported making a small trading profit for three years running now A quick look at your website says that was largely down to having Hibs, Rangers and Hearts during that time, that your estimated to make a loss for your year in league 1, will be interesting to see how your accounts fare this season. Hibs barely managed to exceed a good Falkirk travelling support - partially due to most of our home games against them being televised. Hearts had the best impact on the gate but that was unfortunately only for one season. Unfortunately all three visitors required a hefty and expensive security presence; actually I've be surprised if Hibs showed any profit based on all the shenanigans with fireworks and having to escort significant numbers to Livi South station. Hearts must have shown a decent profit for us and for the local traders though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, LogieLivi said: Really hoping that these signing rumours are true. Including getting Austin. In reference to the mistake in the book, it states that Dominic Keane was not at the CIS cup final. The pictures immediately after the final whistle prove otherwise. Pretty sure the signing rumours are a wind up; there's no way we'd be offering two year contracts at this stage. With regard to DK at the CIS cup final he was definitely there although I think he was as a guest rather than as chairman at that stage. The club went into administration on the same night we won the semi final against Dundee at Easter Road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, LogieLivi said: Really hoping that these signing rumours are true. Including getting Austin. In reference to the mistake in the book, it states that Dominic Keane was not at the CIS cup final. The pictures immediately after the final whistle prove otherwise. We're officially out the race, he's going to either ICT or Raith, ICT offered a house and double what we'd pay 20 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: Talk to me about Pittman. He's been offered a 2 year extension, not much more you need to know 26 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Genuinely, how on earth do you think that running a full time set up is achievable on your crowds? There's no way your posting a profit or breaking even. We run on a small scale full time operation, there's some part time teams that offer more wages than us easily. Given our wage cap is roughly 500pw I doubt we're living outwith our means 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, Durnford said: Pretty sure the signing rumours are a wind up; there's no way we'd be offering two year contracts at this stage. With regard to DK at the CIS cup final he was definitely there although I think he was as a guest rather than as chairman at that stage. The club went into administration on the same night we won the semi final against Dundee at Easter Road. 100% those three have been offered 2 year deals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, ATLIS said: 100% those three have been offered 2 year deals. Source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 FT =/= big wages; I’d be very surprised if there’s a full-time team in the country barring Airdrie who offer less than ourselves. The Austin situation sums it up perfectly; it’s now the second time this season that Raith, slogging it out in League 1, have offered a far better package to someone we wanted to sign. ICT can shell out a hell of a lot more than us given the respective recent histories of both sides, and even having the luxury of chucking in accommodation too. Would’ve loved to have seen Austin here, but there’s no need to burst the budget for one guy who’s not desperate to be here (can’t blame him at all).We will always be a selling club, and it doesn’t matter if it’s to Falkirk, St Mirren or an English side. Pittman to Falkirk would take the biscuit but money talks unfortunately, I’d be mightily disappointed if we couldn’t at least get one of the top performers on a long-term deal and make some serious money off them come summer time, but sometimes we’re left with no real option (see Mullen, Danny). Agree with the shouts regarding John Ward. Good guy, if he’s given an extended run at this without any daft shit being sprung on us from cretins like Rankine then we’ll be in a far better state than any Livingston fan could have imagined in the past decade. I’m just enjoying this season whilst it lasts seeing as we’ll be scrapping for 8th come April 2019, should half the squad depart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Durnford said: Pretty sure the signing rumours are a wind up; there's no way we'd be offering two year contracts at this stage. With regard to DK at the CIS cup final he was definitely there although I think he was as a guest rather than as chairman at that stage. The club went into administration on the same night we won the semi final against Dundee at Easter Road. Yeah DK was at the ground parading the cup to the fans after the game when we got home, letting fans have a touch of the cup as he walked round the edge of the pitch. Pretty sure our fans were singing Quino and he thought it was to him (Keano), but it was to Francisco Quino as Rubio was on the pitch at the time phoning him in Spain, telling him we'd won the cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cilitbang Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 28/12/2017 at 01:22, Livilion28 said: Ive heard that Partick Thistle are monitoring Craig Halkett and Shaun Byrne. I’ve seen Archibald at our last couple games. He will be keeping an eye on Penrice and supposedly looking at Halkett and Byrne If the other 2 have caught Archie’s eye then that’s just good/bad luck depending on who you support. How good/potentials are we talking? positions/playstlye? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Just now, cilitbang said: If the other 2 have caught Archie’s eye then that’s just good/bad luck depending on who you support. How good/potentials are we talking? positions/playstlye? Halkett was at Sevco and we picked him up a couple of seasons ago when he was released, cracking CB now and def good enough for the Premiership. Byrne came from Dunfermline and has been part of a very good midfield 2/3 with Pittman and Jacobs, not sure he's good enough for Premiership though, he's a good Championship player but might be a risk signing him for a level above. Both are too good to be playing with us for much longer though, same with Pittman, hoping we can hold onto them for the rest of the season, and hopefully the talk of us offering them 2 year deal extensions are true, and that they sign them. Edited December 29, 2017 by LIVIFOREVER 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 38 minutes ago, cilitbang said: If the other 2 have caught Archie’s eye then that’s just good/bad luck depending on who you support. How good/potentials are we talking? positions/playstlye? Halkett easily the best CB in the Championship by some way, absolutely solid defender who rarely makes mistakes and chips in with goals. Joint top for us now I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livilion28 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Halkett was at Sevco and we picked him up a couple of seasons ago when he was released, cracking CB now and def good enough for the Premiership. Byrne came from Dunfermline and has been part of a very good midfield 2/3 with Pittman and Jacobs, not sure he's good enough for Premiership though, he's a good Championship player but might be a risk signing him for a level above. Both are too good to be playing with us for much longer though, same with Pittman, hoping we can hold onto them for the rest of the season, and hopefully the talk of us offering them 2 year deal extensions are true, and that they sign them. You say both are to good for Livingston but not sure there good enough for premiership , what level would they go to next? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
third lanark Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 10 hours ago, ATLIS said: We're officially out the race, he's going to either ICT or Raith, ICT offered a house and double what we'd pay He's been offered a 2 year extension, not much more you need to know We run on a small scale full time operation, there's some part time teams that offer more wages than us easily. Given our wage cap is roughly 500pw I doubt we're living outwith our means If Partick Thistle offered these players contracts and who have the new £6 million training complex being built from the money from the Weirs (who have guaranteed it regardless of whether Thistle are relegated or not) and they choose to stay with Livingston, I would think its likely they would be on a lot more than £500 per week? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 55 minutes ago, Livilion28 said: You say both are to good for Livingston but not sure there good enough for premiership , what level would they go to next? I said i'm not sure Byrne is good enough for Premiership, Halkett is, he's coasting it at this level. I know you rate Byrne highly, prob higher than Pittman, so you wont agree with me, I like him too and think he's been excellent at Livi, i'm just not sure he could step up a level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 8 hours ago, ATLIS said: Halkett easily the best CB in the Championship by some way, absolutely solid defender who rarely makes mistakes and chips in with goals. Joint top for us now I think. He might be the best CB in the Championship, he's certainly up there and I agree he would be a good signing for a Premiership club. I think it's stretching it a bit to suggest he's "easily" the best though. I'd take Halkett in a heart beat given a chance. Not seen enough of Byrne. He had a really good game at Palmerston at the end of November though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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