LIVIFOREVER Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Montano was really good at getting the odd goal when we were struggling to score at the start of the season, could do with him back playing and scoring just now, our goals seem to have dried up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/livingston-set-trigger-contract-extensions-29330911 Boyes, Obileye, Montano, and Nouble all having their extra year extensions triggered. Specifically mentions Devlin, Holt, Omeonga and Shinnie as players out of contract that are looking for more money, sounds like expecting them to be off. Callum Carson also suggesting that Deas will be done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, LiviLion said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/livingston-set-trigger-contract-extensions-29330911 Boyes, Obileye, Montano, and Nouble all having their extra year extensions triggered. Specifically mentions Devlin, Holt, Omeonga and Shinnie as players out of contract that are looking for more money, sounds like expecting them to be off. Callum Carson also suggesting that Deas will be done. Come home Nicky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, LiviLion said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/livingston-set-trigger-contract-extensions-29330911 Boyes, Obileye, Montano, and Nouble all having their extra year extensions triggered. Specifically mentions Devlin, Holt, Omeonga and Shinnie as players out of contract that are looking for more money, sounds like expecting them to be off. Callum Carson also suggesting that Deas will be done. All those player are 30 or older this year with the exception of Omeonga. Cant see us holding on to Shinnie; I like Holt and think he still has a lot to offer but he seems to have propped out of favour recently. Omeonga will probably be out of our price range. Nicky Devlin appears to have been losing pace against attacking wingers recently (unless he's carrying an injury). He can still do a job for us but then again isn't irreplaceable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Players expect a raise upon each contract extension and it's possible we can't even afford to offer their current terms again. The covid financial effects have hit now, Martindale has said, so the budget is down on what it was one and two years ago. Shinnie will likely be let go as he's older and features less than the other three mentioned. We'll be lucky to find the money for one of Holt or Omeonga. I hope we can but be braced to lose both. Devlin might be prioritised of the four. Managing to finish Top Six and the extra prize money awarded for that could make the difference here. Sean Kelly was signed after being released by a third tier side. That career background of player is one we can actually afford without caveats. The others mentioned come to Livi at well below their earning potential. They do so in exchange for increased exposure, as Martindale said in the report there. We can't keep these players long term as they come to the club thinking it can provide a career bounce. Edited February 28, 2023 by FreedomFarter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thruthenight Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, FreedomFarter said: Players expect a raise upon each contract extension and it's possible we can't even afford to offer their current terms again. The covid financial effects have hit now, Martindale has said, so the budget is down on what it was one and two years ago. Shinnie will likely be let go as he's older and features less than the other three mentioned. We'll be lucky to find the money for one of Holt or Omeonga. I hope we can but be braced to lose both. Devlin might be prioritised of the four. Managing to finish Top Six and the extra prize money awarded for that could make the difference here. Sean Kelly was signed after being released by a third tier side. That career background of player is one we can actually afford without caveats. The others mentioned come to Livi at well below their earning potential. They do so in exchange for increased exposure, as Martindale said in the report there. We can't keep these players long term as they come to the club thinking it can provide a career bounce. As far as I'm aware, Omeonga and Shinnie are on high wages. Both haven't provided enough to justify keeping them on that salary. They've both been good players, and assets to the squad of course, but as high earners then they're first out the door when we're needing to be more conscious about finances. Holt may well fall into the same bracket. Devlin as captain is slightly different, but he could move on and get more money elsewhere, and I wouldn't blame him for that. I'd be surprised if any of the 4 are here next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, thruthenight said: As far as I'm aware, Omeonga and Shinnie are on high wages. Both haven't provided enough to justify keeping them on that salary. They've both been good players, and assets to the squad of course, but as high earners then they're first out the door when we're needing to be more conscious about finances. I've suspected Martindale has always seen Omeonga as effectively on a two season loan at us, so remote was the chance of Omeonga signing another contract. Then that might've caused Martindale to prioritise the selection of other players who were more likely to be at the club longer term. Probably not, though, this is me pulling ideas out my arse. I do think contract situations affect team selection to some extent, though. Sean Kelly was identified as a good candidate to remould into a much needed, post-Bartley midfield anchor. Probably the potential for Sean Kelly to be at the club longer term was partly what made Martindale decide to do it. You need Sean Kellys and Scott Pittmans, the fully affordable players, to become longer term squad backbone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menga Bus Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Think next season Pittman will be forced into a deeper midfield role, not quite holding midfield but slightly less box to box than he currently is. His G/A for an attacking midfielder is non existent. Stephen Kelly should play in that “10” role, while we have a base of Sean Kelly and Pitts. Obviously we will need to add to that for depth but it’s not a horrendous outlook. Would be ideal if we could manage to keep one of Holt or omeonga though. Losing Holt, Fitz, Shinnie, omeonga and Devlin would be a very large amount of prem experience disappearing at once. Edited February 28, 2023 by Menga Bus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Out of the 4 Holt and Devlin would be the biggest losses. Devlin probably the priority to keep and the emergence of Stephen Kelly/Sean Kelly has meant that Holt may be easier to take as a loss. I wouldn't be too bothered in losing Omeonga or Shinnie to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrong Car Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I'd echo all of the above - Devlin and Holt should be the priority Shinnie has been a good player for us, but I get the feeling he's close losing any pace he had, and Omeonga doesn't justify the wage demand With Parkes likely to leave, along with Fitzwater, I'd hope Martindale can get contracts fot the first two. The article reads more like a warning to their agents, especially given Martindale essentially froze out Robinson and Byrne once they wanted to leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav nan Gael Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 If Dev go's,Brandon is the straight replacement. Prone to injury JB but no doubting his quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrong Car Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Brandon may turn out to be good, however we'd miss the experience and leadership of Devlin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy.1995 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 TBF,haven't seen enough of Brandon to offer any fair critique.Looks promising though.Time will come when some that have been mentioned will leave the club.Can but hope that those coming in can be suitable replacements.Guess we'll have to trust Davies judgement here again.Certianly interesting times ahead.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveRangers1922 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Jackson Longridge, please please tell me some good things and he's not a dud! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 22 hours ago, Menga Bus said: Think next season Pittman will be forced into a deeper midfield role, not quite holding midfield but slightly less box to box than he currently is. His G/A for an attacking midfielder is non existent. Stephen Kelly should play in that “10” role, while we have a base of Sean Kelly and Pitts. Completely agree that Kelly should be the 10 but I'm not convinced Pittman's the right type of player to play deeper. I'd be doing whatever possible to keep a hold of Holt or Omeonga. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) Goalkeepers 1. Shamal George - 2026 32. Jack Hamilton - 2024 Brian Schwake - 2023 Defenders 2. Nicky Devlin - 2023 4. Tom Parkes - 2024 5. Jack Fitzwater - 2023 6. Ayo Obileye - 2024 11. Cristian Montano - 2024 12. Jamie Brandon - 2025 15. Morgan Boyes - 2024 23. Luiyi de Lucas - 2024 (1 year extension option) 29. James Penrice - 2024 Jackson Longridge - 2023 Midfielders 8. Scott Pittman - 2026 17. Stephen Kelly - 2025 18. Jason Holt - 2025 22. Andrew Shinnie - 2024 24. Sean Kelly - 2024 33. Stephane Omeonga - 2023 Scott Bitsindou - 2024 (1 year extension option) Forwards 7. Dylan Bahamboula - 2024 (1 year extension option) 9. Bruce Anderson - 2024 16. Steven Bradley - 2025 19. Joel Nouble - 2024 28. Kurtis Guthrie - 2024 (1 year extension option) Esmael Goncalves - 2024 (1 year extension option) Jack Hamilton - 2024 Jaze Kabia - 2023 In Dylan Bahamboula - Oldham Athletic Scott Bitsindou - KSK Lierse Kempenzonen Steven Bradley - Hibernian Jamie Brandon - Heart of Midlothian Phillip Cancar - Western Sydney Wanderers Luiyi de Lucas - FC Haka Shamal George - Colchester United Esmaël Gonçalves - Sheikh Russel Kurtis Guthrie - RoundGlass Punjab Jack Hamilton - Greenock Morton Stephen Kelly - Rangers Out Odin Bailey - Birmingham City (Loan return) Daniel Barden - Norwich City (Loan return) Phillip Cancar - Newcastle Jets Caleb Chukwuemeka - Aston Villa (Loan return) Harrison Clark - Gateshead Alan Forrest - Heart of Midlothian Keaghan Jacobs - Arbroath Ivan Konovalov - FC Tobol Adam Lewis - Liverpool (Loan return) Jack McMillan - Partick Thistle Josh Mullin - Ayr United Carlo Pignatiello - Greenock Morton Matej Poplatnik - Ilireja 1911 Craig Sibbald - Dundee United Sebastian Soto - Norwich City (Loan return) Max Stryjek - Wycombe Wanderers Gavin Reilly - Queen of the South Contract Expiring Brian Schwake Nicky Devlin Jack Fitzwater Jackson Longridge Stephane Omeonga Jaze Kabia Edited May 10, 2023 by EdinburghLivi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrong Car Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Longridge confirmed as away to Cove on loan Not a surprise, a good player but clearly limited and now 3rd choice LB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, CoveRangers1922 said: Jackson Longridge, please please tell me some good things and he's not a dud! As said above, a good player but not quite cut out for a fight for top 6 in the Premiership. I'd be surprised if he doesn't do well in the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveRangers1922 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, LiviLion said: As said above, a good player but not quite cut out for a fight for top 6 in the Premiership. I'd be surprised if he doesn't do well in the Championship. Sounds better than what we have. Doubt he's anywhere close to Harry Milne or Max Johnston but should do well for us. We have our a fight of our own. Hopefully he can help with our survival bid. A lot rides on us staying up as there is the promise of switching from PT to FT if we manage it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 With more snow and -11° forecast for next week, surely that Dundee Utd game is in danger of a third postponement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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