HibeeJibee Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Game is off according to shire web site. Fucking disgracefulhttp://www.eaststirlingfc.co.uk/news_artic...livipreview.htm Have Shire called this game off? The SFL? (And if so, how, on a Friday evening). Livingston have not - according to BBC News and Radio - been given permission not to play tomorrow. Farcical... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larbert_Par Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 This has gone well beyond a state of comedy now. An absolute joke and Livi are simply managing to piss everyone off. Feel for the Shire here as they will lose money because of this, which for smaller clubs is never good. Regardless of any appeal regarding their league placing, I would dock Livingston 15 points for not being able to play. And the fact that Airdrie and Cowdenbeath's games could become totally irrelevant makes the situation even more of a laughing stock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNECKSTAGGIE Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Livi will now be relying on the chairmen of all the other clubs to come to their rescue and to overturn the original decision, I wouldn't have thought that they have done themselves any favours with the manner that they have gone about this whole farce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luggy Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Has the SFL said it's off to avoid prejudicing the process - or is this the Livi/Shire line? How can the SFL say that all games are on at 11am, then do an entire 180 degree turn later in the day? This is the second game we have been out of pocket for this week Spencer is 100% correct Sack The fuckers who make these stupid decisions. SFL w**k w**k w**k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) this is total farce.shire are gonna be well out of pocket fo rthis non game as they will have to pay for stewarding & policing (extra for opening the terrace), lost hospitality, cost of staff wages, cost of hiring stenny for a non existant game plus what about the fans that are travelling from england who have trains and hotels booked. There is never any consideration for fans as people just think they live locally and never have to travel for a game or make plans so they can get to the game. East Stirling are entitled to pursue Livingston for actual losses accrued - under SFL Rule 28.4.1. From the SFL site.... a somewhat different take on the issue from the wording that appears on the ES site.East Stirlingshire v Livingston The Scottish Football League have this evening been advised by that Livingston Football Club will not be fulfilling their IRN-BRU SFL Third Division fixture against East Stirlingshire at Ochilview Park tomorrow, Saturday August 8, which had a scheduled 3.00pm kick off. It is our duty to communicate this information to all supporters who were planning to attend the match. This matter will now be referred to the Scottish Football League Management Committee for consideration. All other fourteen fixtures in the IRN-BRU Scottish Football League will be played tomorrow as previously communicated. If this is true then clearly the SFL position is they categorically know Livi will scratch tomorrow, so they are telling everyone in advance. The punishment must be severe, as with Hamilton Accies... Edited August 7, 2009 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 From the SFL site.... a somewhat different take on the issue from the wording that appears on the ES site.East Stirlingshire v Livingston The Scottish Football League have this evening been advised by that Livingston Football Club will not be fulfilling their IRN-BRU SFL Third Division fixture against East Stirlingshire at Ochilview Park tomorrow, Saturday August 8, which had a scheduled 3.00pm kick off. It is our duty to communicate this information to all supporters who were planning to attend the match. This matter will now be referred to the Scottish Football League Management Committee for consideration. All other fourteen fixtures in the IRN-BRU Scottish Football League will be played tomorrow as previously communicated. Well that's that then. The SFL haven't postponed the game and so long as 'Shire are there, Livi are, and I offer no apologies for my succinctness, fucked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news...amp;newsid=2845 Edit: Yeah, like the previous poster said. Looks like the SFL have not agreed to this. Edited August 7, 2009 by Yoss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantoms-livi-lass Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 That is, unfortunately, bollocks. They are anything but happy about it. Read your own board for details. Ok I'll rephrase it: most of the Livi fans do not think we are too good for the third division & we would be very happy just to survive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidediamond Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Here's the official SFL line, somewhat different from the wording on the Shire site. http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news...amp;newsid=2845 East Stirlingshire v Livingston The Scottish Football League have this evening been advised by that Livingston Football Club will not be fulfilling their IRN-BRU SFL Third Division fixture against East Stirlingshire at Ochilview Park tomorrow, Saturday August 8, which had a scheduled 3.00pm kick off. It is our duty to communicate this information to all supporters who were planning to attend the match. This matter will now be referred to the Scottish Football League Management Committee for consideration. All other fourteen fixtures in the IRN-BRU Scottish Football League will be played tomorrow as previously communicated. edited to add link Edited August 7, 2009 by southsidediamond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rankine Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Games offhttp://www.eaststirlingfc.co.uk/news_artic...livipreview.htm "Now that the appeal has been lodged the SFL cannot allow anything to prejudice that process. Therefore, the scheduled match will not take place. Officials of East Stirlingshire FC were informed of the league's decision to postpone the match at 8:10pm on Friday evening." It's looking more like an official postponement - which means Livi will receive no punishment for this. Clearly the SFL is now running scared (perhaps rightly) of legal proceedings and is proceeding with the utmost caution. For McGrouther and the Consortium it is a last throw of the dice. Win the appeal, they stay in Division 1 and have a long-shot of making their business plan work. Lose the appeal and Livi goes out of business, making the fulfilment of the East Stirling fixture academic. Part of McGrouther's legal remit is to ensure he doesn't make the financial situation worse than it already is. In his eyes, laying out expenses to fulfil (again, in his eyes) a meaningless fixture suddenly makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordieBoy80 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Who the hell do Livi think they are blackmailing the league ? The Old Firm ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I just don't understand that.How could fulfilling a fixture prejudice the process? Ah, you see, what you are trying to do is make sense of The SFL. That way madness lies. I suggest you go and nail some jelly to the wall, or fold some gravy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Well that's that then.The SFL haven't postponed the game and so long as 'Shire are there, Livi are, and I offer no apologies for my succinctness, fucked. Shire's website suggests they don't intend to turn up. Leaving them open to sanction too ? http://www.eaststirlingfc.co.uk/news_artic...livipreview.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larbert_Par Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Ok I'll rephrase it: most of the Livi fans do not think we are too good for the third division & we would be very happy just to survive. The people attempting to rescue your club would do well to listen to that then and get on with things. Livingston FC deserved to be punished for years of financial mismangement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Livi will be back in the 1st division once the legal eagles check the small print. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 This is the second game we have been out of pocket for this week Spencer is 100% correct Sack The fuckers who make these stupid decisions. SFL w**k w**k w**k Instead of blaming the SPL, I'd look in the direction of West Lothian if I was you. Livi have been demoted and they should play the fixture. Their fans want a club and a chance to start afresh; this is their opportunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinheed Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Ok I'll rephrase it: most of the Livi fans do not think we are too good for the third division & we would be very happy just to survive. Sorry to say, you will be very lucky to survive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNECKSTAGGIE Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I am glad that it is quite clear that they have broken yet another rule and that they, hopefully, pay a hefty price for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 This is the second game we have been out of pocket for this week Spencer is 100% correct Sack The fuckers who make these stupid decisions. SFL w**k w**k w**k Shire's statement: http://www.eaststirlingfc.co.uk/news_artic...livipreview.htm The SFL statement: http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news...amp;newsid=2845 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityfan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 McGruther on Sky Sports News just now saying Livingston will survive as he's recieved 2 different acceptable offers. 1 is an offer for Livi as a 1st division club and the other is an offer for Livi as a 3rd division club, so no matter the result of the appeal, Livi will survive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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