Par-NO1 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Really enjoying this season, it's been great so far. Jon/Sansa vs Ramsay will be immense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The Stormlands = The Failed Statelet of Westeros 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Only just caught up on last week. Great episode, loads going on plot-wise. I liked Tyrion's plan but I did wonder if they're setting it up for things to go badly wrong. Can see them all just giving up on Mereen. All the Castle Black scenes were great. That awkward convo between Brienne, Melisandre and Davos! There's a theory going around that Ramsay's letter was actually written by the Umbers as part of some sneaky plan. Would be really disappointed if that was true because I a) don't like the idea of someone else being able to 'do' the character, it was perfectly worded as something he would say and b) don't think it makes sense dramatically to have another set of characters we don't really know attempting a powerplay at this stage. I even liked the Littlefinger scene, manipulating Robyn into sending the Knights of the Vale in with like zero effort, barely bothering to keep up the facade. Cersei and Jaime's rescue plan was interesting, I reckon it'll end up with the Sparrows defeated but Tommen dead. Edited May 22, 2016 by Christophe -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hang on, just thinking out loud here, what if Littlefinger sent it?! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hang on, just thinking out loud here, what if Littlefinger sent it?! Would mean he'd gave to have been in cahoots wit the Umbers then to know that Rickon was there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Would mean he'd gave to have been in cahoots wit the Umbers then to know that Rickon was there That would not surprise me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 If Tommen dies, is Cersei the Queen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 If Tommen dies, is Cersei the Queen? don't think so? If Tommen and Margeary have comnsimated there marriage I think she would get the crown? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 don't think so? If Tommen and Margeary have comnsimated there marriage I think she would get the crown? Nope, it should go to Stannis, then Shireen, then Renly. It would then go Tywin, Jaime, Cersei, Tyrion, Kevan, Lancel. All Lannisters. I assume Cersei would seize power as Queen if that came to pass as Jaime can't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 In fact, I think Jon Snow would have a legit claim as son of Rhaegar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 That would all be dependent on Jon being recognised as such which is surely impossible seen as Howland Reed and a man in a tree are the only ones that know. Unless Dany conquers we'll be working down the 'Baratheon' line or what's left of it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Tonight/tomorrow episode is 'available' early apparantly. It goes without saying that this definitely would be a time to use spoilers if you watch it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Well there seems to be free reign on book shite so who knows what people on here see as spoilers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Would mean he'd gave to have been in cahoots wit the Umbers then to know that Rickon was there Not necessarily, he has plenty "little birds" -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Tonight/tomorrow episode is 'available' early apparantly. It goes without saying that this definitely would be a time to use spoilers if you watch it Looks that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Anyway hope it's not Littlefinger, don't like the idea of him manipulating the WHOLE game, gie someone else a go -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I was speaking to someone last night who was adamant that the Umber's were playing Ramsay. They claimed for one that the head on the hook was too small to be a direwolf so it wasn't Shaggydog. Reckoned it was a ploy to get close to Ramsay and sack Winterfell from the inside and install Rickon as the Lord. I wasn't convinced though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Nope, it should go to Stannis, then Shireen, then Renly. It would then go Tywin, Jaime, Cersei, Tyrion, Kevan, Lancel. All Lannisters. I assume Cersei would seize power as Queen if that came to pass as Jaime can't. The Lannisters have absolutely no claim to the throne. Cersei was a queen regent and is no longer the queen, so no longer plays a role in the succession; a succession that is entirely based on her children being from the Baratheon line. So long as Margaery's marriage is viewed as legit then she would play the role of kingmaker, but I wouldn't fancy her chances of lasting in that role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just checked it, and the next episode is definitely up now. Will watch it after dinner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenElves Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I was speaking to someone last night who was adamant that the Umber's were playing Ramsay. They claimed for one that the head on the hook was too small to be a direwolf so it wasn't Shaggydog. Reckoned it was a ploy to get close to Ramsay and sack Winterfell from the inside and install Rickon as the Lord. I wasn't convinced though. I've heard a few folk say they didn't think it was a direwolf's head, but I can't say I noticed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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