Donnyarb Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 There will be unlimited slots in my game for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Ah, I was looking for you in the newbie section It all seems a lot more complicated than ours It is... I'm gonna end up mod killed pretty quickly first time round I think for not following it to a T, but I'll do my best. The guys on the 'proposition' thread seemed quite nice, and one of them is also in the game, so fingers crossed they'll at least give me a few days to adjust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gy diamond Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Its a difficult one as the amount of people who are now playing the mafia games is moving towards a level that is tough to contain in one game. So youre left with the unsatisfactory solutions of either creating 2 games at once and splitting players up, or what we had in this game, ie qualifiers and seedings etc, which only serve to create an elite and reduce the level of unpredictability and fun for new players. We have about 25 constant players and 8/9 on off players so at most we have 30 players in each game so no need for 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Its a difficult one as the amount of people who are now playing the mafia games is moving towards a level that is tough to contain in one game. So youre left with the unsatisfactory solutions of either creating 2 games at once and splitting players up, or what we had in this game, ie qualifiers and seedings etc, which only serve to create an elite and reduce the level of unpredictability and fun for new players. To be fair, Jupe is in the final having never played any other games before and Nizlopi is there too having only played a few. Catering for more than 20 in that survivor game was always going to be a step too far. The first night's task is always a nightmare to try and fit in the normal time parameters, so the qualifiers was to try and add a bit of excitement as well as getting the numbers down to a workable level. I quite enjoyed running the qualifiers if I'm honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Its a difficult one as the amount of people who are now playing the mafia games is moving towards a level that is tough to contain in one game. So youre left with the unsatisfactory solutions of either creating 2 games at once and splitting players up, or what we had in this game, ie qualifiers and seedings etc, which only serve to create an elite and reduce the level of unpredictability and fun for new players. I think people need to just start counting themselves out, and there should be a number of slots available for inexperienced players. Not as formal as it sounds obviously, but some of the usual suspects need to just take a game out here and there, and then its fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think people need to just start counting themselves out, and there should be a number of slots available for inexperienced players. Not as formal as it sounds obviously, but some of the usual suspects need to just take a game out here and there, and then its fine! Exactly, maybe put themselves as backups. If newer players want to play then they sign up but if the GM needs more players then they can put themselves in. Maybe GTG needs to break his run of not being in every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I've had a look at the mafiascum rules for the type of game I'm going for (it's called a 'long normal') and they don't see too much different from our own. Longer deadlines and more formalised styles of posting aside, I think we could handle it. Here's a list of their 'basic' rules. Mafiascum rules Obviously these are in addition to the etiquette set out on the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gy diamond Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think people need to just start counting themselves out, and there should be a number of slots available for inexperienced players. Not as formal as it sounds obviously, but some of the usual suspects need to just take a game out here and there, and then its fine! Exactly, maybe put themselves as backups. If newer players want to play then they sign up but if the GM needs more players then they can put themselves in. Maybe GTG needs to break his run of not being in every game Why? Just because we are regular players why should we give our place up in games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_binos Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Exactly, maybe put themselves as backups. If newer players want to play then they sign up but if the GM needs more players then they can put themselves in. Maybe GTG needs to break his run of not being in every game GTG and JamboStu retired at one point but quickly came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 GTG and JamboStu retired at one point but quickly came back. So did Sooky and Ludo, and I'm sure Gy said he wouldn't play in another game involving Lichtie. All of whom are now back to playing regularly (which is of course good news!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_binos Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Did Ludo retire? I thought it was an extended break. There was a point where a few folk between scunnered with the game. The last few games have been tremendous and that's without good players like Parscelona, monkeyblair et al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo_dee Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Invertebrates, the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gy diamond Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Did Ludo retire? I thought it was an extended break. There was a point where a few folk between scunnered with the game. The last few games have been tremendous and that's without good players like Parscelona, monkeyblair et al Yes he retired then came back during Sookys game to kill me when no one knew he was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Why? Just because we are regular players why should we give our place up in games? Because if you don't allow new players to come in then the games will die through lack of players. Trust me, I've seen it happen on my other board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Did Ludo retire? I thought it was an extended break. There was a point where a few folk between scunnered with the game. The last few games have been tremendous and that's without good players like Parscelona, monkeyblair et al Yeah, he didn't play for quite a good while, although i think he followed the games he missed. I agree as well. The strength of the players has improved massively in the last 6 months or so especially, I think since the the first Survivor Game. I think everyone is a lot more confident to speak out and argue with other players, which has made all the difference.We're slowly moving away from killing the most active players too, which helps the latter part of the game - thank f**k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Good luck in the game Kyle - what if you don't return and you prefer them over us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Because if you don't allow new players to come in then the games will die through lack of players. Trust me, I've seen it happen on my other board. Exactly, and thats part of the reason the games went through a dead crappy spell (in addition to the inability of players to wait for the next one), not enough fresh players showed up, people went round and round, and eventually loads got bored, leading to that awful tedious series of games. You have to keep bringing new players in occasionally, it ups the standard all round and keeps things fresher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Good luck in the game Kyle - what if you don't return and you prefer them over us Doubts! This is an experiment. Having read the rules, I think this could be a 6 week drawn out affair. This is my mafia home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gy diamond Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Because if you don't allow new players to come in then the games will die through lack of players. Trust me, I've seen it happen on my other board. We have done quite well over the last 2 years since there is only a couple of left from the start and everyone else seem to come and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Exactly, and thats part of the reason the games went through a dead crappy spell (in addition to the inability of players to wait for the next one), not enough fresh players showed up, people went round and round, and eventually loads got bored, leading to that awful tedious series of games. You have to keep bringing new players in occasionally, it ups the standard all round and keeps things fresher. Absolutely. Guys like yourself, Jupe, Nizlopi, forehead Stewbo etc have come in recently and it's stirred the pot. I think the players coming in all seem to be well educated individuals (along with everyone else who is educated) so the arguments and 'cloak and daggers' have been much more elaborate and exciting. You should play in a normal mafia game Xbl... you'd be a fucking dynamite investigator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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