sjc Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 McCoist is spineless. Remember, this is the man who refused to be part of the process of a player cull. He said he wouldn't even be in the room when they were told, instead he would wait outside to speak with them after. He's the manager, he's an adult, he should have been the one breaking the news to his own players. I agree with that......that's "management" after all which many of us in our own workplace have to carry out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckinho Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Amazing, that is the gaffers role isn't it. Unless your club is run by some shady characters... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 They should just relegate all teams placed 3-12 and cancel promotion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuntoiRab Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Dead the morra. You heard it here. Nae takers, once the tow man sees the books he'll fek offskiy sharpish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I've just heard that John Lennon was killed last night No supprise there then ,rangers fans are usually 30 years behind everyone else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenpot Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 No supprise there then , Ra Selik fans are usually 50 years behind everyone else. Sorted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 McCoist is playing the Rangers fans like a fiddle. He knows full well that before Administration the knives were out and since then has pulled off a series of cliched soundbites to have the moronic masses eating out of his hand. Lennon is simply a graceless, classless cuntwipe. Agree with both points,,,as for mccoist still waiting for anyone in the press to ask him if he took an EBT,and any other so called legends for that matter ,,but this seems to be an unaskable question for some reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I'm a w**k sorted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I've been away for a few days but if I am picking things up correctly the selling price is only in the 15 million ball park? Would it not be worth an old firm hater with cash buying the club for 20 million, selling the players who have value then knocking down Ibrox and giving Murray park to charity. I am sure you could make a profit on it. The only down side is I am sure some Rangers fans would hunt you down quicker than Lennon runs on to a pitch at full time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutty Old Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 While we all want to see Rangers punished accordingly, I think a bit of credit is due to McCoist, as he has dealt with the adversity pretty well, and in a dignified fashion. A certain other manager would do well to learn a bit from him. Other than McCoist and a few decent Gers posters on here, everyone else connected with the club has behaved like a complete cretin. Our wait may be a long one if it's appropriate punishment we're looking for. It baffles me how a club can approach the football authorities and are accommodated in the form of negotiations about sanctions that will be applied when contravention of the rules are being considered. Rangers Football Club should have no part in the decision on sanctions that are to be applied. The argument appears to be that Rangers are in such a mess that it will require a new owner to take the helm and tthe club's misdemeanours should therefore be overlooked. So, liquidation suits the American as it will give him a healthier business and the creditors, tax authorities, tax payers, creditors, rival clubs, rival fans should all rally round losing substantial sums of money, to ensure that a strong Rangers emerges from this shambles of business management. If all this is allowed to happen the upside (sarcasm alert) for everyone in Scotland will be a competitive Rangers improving the co-efficient in Europe so that Rangers and their friends, Celtic, can enjoy the improved income generation that European football will bring thus allowing them to dominate scottish football for the foreseeable future. It is, of course, also important that the current voting structure is maintained for the good of scottish football (another sarcasm alert ) as creating an equitable decision making structure would interfere with the aspirations of Rangers and Celtic so the bottom line is that we need to get back to the way things were as soon as possible. Remember, the only reason Kilmarnock, Ayr United, Arbroath and East Stirling exist is to make it look like we have a football infrastructure for the two real football teams to 'represent' The various surveys showing the disaffection, with the current set up, of football fans in general can easily be disregarded by people with a vested interest in keeping the majority of the money (Old Firm) or the scraps from the table of the big two (other SPL teams). We have been patronised by chairmen, managers and players for so many years now when they proclaim " The fans are the most important part of the game" We know better of course. If ever there was a time for football fans to stand up and be counted it is now. We can make threats like these ever-so intelligent Rangers supporters who made demands of the administrators to take action by a certain time and as we all realised it was a laughable threat. No amount of shouting and bawling at matches or on the internet will make a jot of difference. A strategy needs to be employed by football fans that will have an impact on the decision making of the football authorities in particular whilst also influencing our individual clubs. A boycott of games is a worry as it can have an adverse effect on the clubs we love but there is no doubt it would reap long term benefits in the shape of a more competitive, equitible, fair football environment for everyone. Stopping short of boycotts, the only action that I can think of to exert influence from our perspective would be a supporters' rally where all scottish football fans converge at a central point in a display of unity to protest at the state of our national sport, the corruption that exists and the discrimination of the masses by the few. Just a thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 They should just relegate all teams placed 3-12 and cancel promotion. In all seriousness why not ? it is ALL about the TV deal after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckinho Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I like the idea of a mass supporters rally or some such but it always runs the risk of being taken over by the wrong elements. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Our wait may be a long one if it's appropriate punishment we're looking for. It baffles me how a club can approach the football authorities and are accommodated in the form of negotiations about sanctions that will be applied when contravention of the rules are being considered. Rangers Football Club should have no part in the decision on sanctions that are to be applied. The argument appears to be that Rangers are in such a mess that it will require a new owner to take the helm and tthe club's misdemeanours should therefore be overlooked. So, liquidation suits the American as it will give him a healthier business and the creditors, tax authorities, tax payers, creditors, rival clubs, rival fans should all rally round losing substantial sums of money, to ensure that a strong Rangers emerges from this shambles of business management. If all this is allowed to happen the upside (sarcasm alert) for everyone in Scotland will be a competitive Rangers improving the co-efficient in Europe so that Rangers and their friends, Celtic, can enjoy the improved income generation that European football will bring thus allowing them to dominate scottish football for the foreseeable future. It is, of course, also important that the current voting structure is maintained for the good of scottish football (another sarcasm alert ) as creating an equitable decision making structure would interfere with the aspirations of Rangers and Celtic so the bottom line is that we need to get back to the way things were as soon as possible. Remember, the only reason Kilmarnock, Ayr United, Arbroath and East Stirling exist is to make it look like we have a football infrastructure for the two real football teams to 'represent' The various surveys showing the disaffection, with the current set up, of football fans in general can easily be disregarded by people with a vested interest in keeping the majority of the money (Old Firm) or the scraps from the table of the big two (other SPL teams). We have been patronised by chairmen, managers and players for so many years now when they proclaim " The fans are the most important part of the game" We know better of course. If ever there was a time for football fans to stand up and be counted it is now. We can make threats like these ever-so intelligent Rangers supporters who made demands of the administrators to take action by a certain time and as we all realised it was a laughable threat. No amount of shouting and bawling at matches or on the internet will make a jot of difference. A strategy needs to be employed by football fans that will have an impact on the decision making of the football authorities in particular whilst also influencing our individual clubs. A boycott of games is a worry as it can have an adverse effect on the clubs we love but there is no doubt it would reap long term benefits in the shape of a more competitive, equitible, fair football environment for everyone. Stopping short of boycotts, the only action that I can think of to exert influence from our perspective would be a supporters' rally where all scottish football fans converge at a central point in a display of unity to protest at the state of our national sport, the corruption that exists and the discrimination of the masses by the few. Just a thought. I'll just stop going.......if others are happy for Rangers, Celtic & the football authorities to piss down their legs and be told its raining that's their perogative. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Agree with both points,,,as for mccoist still waiting for anyone in the press to ask him if he took an EBT,and any other so called legends for that matter ,,but this seems to be an unaskable question for some reason. It is disgraceful that this question has not been asked of Sally, Walter Smith etc. At least Alex Thomson proved the Greig received money from and EBT 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I like the idea of a mass supporters rally or some such but it always runs the risk of being taken over by the wrong elements. Agreed.....oldest trick in the book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutty Old Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Agreed.....oldest trick in the book. I agree also, you're making a good point.........it's so frustrating isn't it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 It is disgraceful that this question has not been asked of Sally, Walter Smith etc. At least Alex Thomson proved the Greig received money from and EBT Considering this could be the very thing that kills rangers its unbelievable that none of these people have been asked the question ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I agree also, you're making a good point.........it's so frustrating isn't it ? Very frustrating but its hardly surprising though is it ? When our sports media in this Country are so far up the OF's arses that they don't even acknowledge the existence of the rest what chance do we have of a "media whoring/reactive" SPL listening to us fans ?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Considering this could be the very thing that kills rangers its unbelievable that none of these people have been asked the question ... in the words of Hugh Keevins: "bbut bbut I'm just a football journalist......th tha that's more to do with business journalism." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthewing Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 in the words of Hugh Keevins: "bbut bbut I'm just a football journalist......th tha that's more to do with business journalism." Keevins' stock answer is akin to "That would be an ecumenical matter." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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