The Old Northerner Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 but there is a queue to buy season tickets if these bigots give up their tickets That particular assertion is often debunked by your own fans - have there been any half-season book offers recently? I'd reckon the absence of your former business partners would be decreasing demand anyhow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I dont suppose any fans of a "diddy" team are RAF pilots that could, due to instrument failure on a training exercise, fly over Ibrox and accidentally release a full payload? Just asking. No, but I'm a sparrow with decent wings and an arse of a crow. Just say when. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Roth Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 That's really good news, I'd like to see other chairmen come out with similar statements. Aye, clear and to the point as well, kudos to Wiggy. Too many using doublespeak these days "just in case". This is a time to call a spade a bigoted b*****d. Wonder whether Bomber "David Niven" Brown will have anything silky to say in response. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Bearing in mind that the majority of the Tartan Army is made up of fans from the Diddy Clubs.......could we see an empty Hampden Park for Scotland's World Cup Qualifiers ? Yes. 'Cos if we don't go, and the Orcs certainly won't be there, who will? A few hundred away fans plus the blazers. Grrrr, gettin' annoyed. Canny DAE anythin'. Jist strongly worded emails. Beelin'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Dear Sirs, With regards to the comments in todays press regarding a newco being parachuted into the SFL1 I find myself shocked and horrified that this could happen, please could you clarify the situation in regards to the rules that are readily available for all the public? This almost constitutes league fixing and is surely as frowned upon as match fixing, how does this carry with UEFA and FIFA stance on fair play? If this were to go ahead, by saving 1 club you run the real scenario of killing dozens with the fans turning their backs on the game in this country, myself and my family included, not one SFL or non Rangers SPL fan I have talked to can believe we are even entertaining this idea. They are a Newco and hence have to apply like any other club to the 3rd division by the rules. Precedence has been set previously with Airdrieonians who after liquidation were refused entry to the league, so what is the difference this time? Remember by taking preferencial treatment to one club you are jeopordizing many more with fans stopping attending games, and they won't be back to their club games or to their countrys games. I look forward to your reply. Kind regards The Nolly Partick Thistle Fan Edited June 28, 2012 by thenolly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Email Sent To SFA/SFL Dear Sirs, I understand from today's media broadcasts and websites that a deal has been struck to parachute a brand new club with no history , no accounts, three players and no proof to show they have funds enough to fulfil a season's fixtures straight into the second tier of Scottish football . If the above is not true as I'm sure it is not (as league fixing is surely as frowned apron as match fixing) then can you please explain why the above is being discussed as fact on our National TV, radio and press without a denial from this country's footballing governing bodies ? I look forward to your reply. Kind regards Dear Pele 1922, We have no intention of letting Stoneybridge "parachute" into the league set up.It is a shit hole that puts cowdenbeath to shame , yours indudibilitily, C. Ockwomble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzie Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I smell shite ! and what is your source there cap'n ?. Your theory is based on a small hard core group of sectarian bigots who need ra gers themselves and the rest of us normal fans just need a league of teams to play against.Celtics business model is based upon results on the park and not just vile bigotry against a dead team 4 times a season.Possibly some fans will not go to games coz the other ugly sister has committed suicide but there is a queue to buy season tickets if these bigots give up their tickets.Part of Celtics business model and is probably the most important is European football and acquiring a good run if at all possible because this creates more money than winning a backwater SPL league as it is.Next year we will have no rangers in the SPL and if one or two teams put up a good fight till the bitter end then ALL THE BETTER I say.Yes some die hard fannies will be at Parkhead next season with banners celebrating the death of rangers but that will soon dissipate into obscurity.Rangers demise has possibly given Celtic a short time of domination but I fully expect one team to take the plunge and go for it as there is only Celtic to beat if they can attain a decent squad of players and get results against all the other teams and get results against Celtic then they could win the league,because Celtic will surely cut some cloth to suit because they do not need to spend as much because the OF is not there any more and the newco certainly won't have any spending power for many a year. Try and enjoy the moment instead of being a chicken little FFS. There we go with the fecking negative reps again for posting a little bit of truth yes I'm a Celtic fan but I'm NOT A FECKING BIGOT OK.Why do people not see the opportunity for some other team to have a crack at the title instead of greetin that Celtic will dominate for all time.Rangers have capitulated and the SPL are about to kick their hopes of parachuting into the SPL ! there are another 30 teams who now have the opportunity to vote the newco into non existence and ensure there will never be again the OF dominance in the Scottish leagues. The silence from Celtic over the past 4 months has been absolutely deafening.I think it's time we heard from them. Don't you? Edited June 28, 2012 by fozzie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I have season ticket money sitting here for Firhill. I wont be able to travel to see the games, but after all the optimism at the end of the season I wanted to invest something in the club. BUT if this proposal goes through I WILL buy a season ticket, but at a championship club, where what I spend wouldve got me 2 tickets at Thistle. :angry: Watch for the post I have stirring in my loins! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 From OrcTalk,,,,,, allegedly what Green said to Brown.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The Rangers should take the lead and say they are going apply to enter the SFL at 3rd Div level 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Jusr sent this to the appropiate people in the SFA and SPL: All Having seen the proposals for restructuring Scottish professional football on the BBC and STV websites, I an wholeheartedly behind them. Football needs a shake-up every so often and this might just improve competitiveness. The fact that 2 places in the SPL are now in the relegation danger zone will increase excitement and might just cause teams to think twice about their spending. This may help keep Scottish football 'honest'. Remember that word. I said I was wholeheartedly behind these proposals. Well, I am. Mostly. There's one small fly in the ointment - the part where Rangers Newco are parachuted into the SFL1. This is a travesty and stinks of corruption. This involves changing the rules at short notice for the benefit of a new company with no proof that it has either a ground, a business plan or a squad. I would not be surprised if these organizational contortions drew the attention of UEFA and/or FIFA. If these proposed structural changes are being mooted as 'good for Scottish football', then they will still be good for Scottish football without the Rangers Newco part. Please show some moral fibre and reconsider this proposal. It's not about the money: it's about sport, competition and the love of the game. I really fear for what this would do to the international reputation of Scottish football. If football isn't about integrity and fair competition then it's just a business and not one that I want to pay my money to. Regards It won't make a toss worth of difference but it makes me feel better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 This is last week's story, containing sloppy journalism like Rangers being 'relegated'. Liked the bit about 'pervious' club though. The SFL clubs will all have a vote on this, and The Rangers will have to start in Div 3 once their hopes are dashed for Div 1. Disgraceful behaviour by the football authorities nevertheless. What are Livingston thinking about this? Let's get back to the John Brown videos. By far the most hilarious thing about this shambles. Comments on here have been brilliant. Can someone bring out a DVD of Brown addressing the masses from the steps of Ibrox please? With subtitles. I was half expecting Stanley Baxter to step up afterwards to explain, à la Parliamo Glasgow, what had been going on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The Rangers should take the lead and say they are going apply to enter the SFL at 3rd Div level There is no 'Rangers' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Rather think the suits have shot themselves on face here by misjudgmen of mod of fans and many clubs. Don't see any way newco will get voted into first ...and having opened the Pandora's box of reconstruction ...will be very hard to shut it! Btw have sponsors of sfl and spl been consulted?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 That is why i referred to them as "The Rangers" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzie Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I think this is true. However, the placing of "The Rangers" in Division 1 is farcical and will only inflame the supporters of all Scottish clubs. I'm with Welsh Bairn's suggestion of 3 x14 leagues this would be a much more acceptable compromise IMO . Cutting down time to get to top flight to two years rather than three. I reckon all fans including "The Rangers" fans would buy that proposal. I don't! Well, at least not the bit about Motherwell going into admin. Just think about it for a second. How does a club get into administration? i) It has to get into debt ii) then it has to reach a point of insolvency whereby it can't pay its bills iii) then an administrator has to be appointed to protect the business pending the proposal of a CVA. For a start, Motherwell don't really have any big debts at the moment, they posted a huge profit this season and have some champions league football to look forward to next season. Secondly, its running costs over the coming season, even with wages wouldn't evn push it near the point of insolvency (Think Kilmarnock, Aberdeen etc. We'd still only be talking about a fraction of their debts!) Thirdly, even in a worst-case scenario, their biggest cost by a mile is wages which can be renegotiated without any need for a CVA (Think Clyde, Stranraer etc.) Finally, the potential losses outlined by their board for the loss of income are no more than they could potentially lose in terms of prize money by finishing a few places lower in the table, which they will certainly have budgeted for. No. The whole Motherwell in admin thing is a nonsense I'm afraid. Edited June 28, 2012 by fozzie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The silence from Celtic over the past 4 months has been absolutely deafening.I think it's time we heard from them. Don't you? Yeh I'm kinda wondering why they haven't made something public about this fiasco.What are they waiting for ? are they scared to go public ? are they worried about something ? would be nice to hear the boards stance on the subject or are they leaving the gers carcase for all the other clubs to finish off completely before making a statement ?.Or just plain simple keep the ginger heids mouth shut totally so as not to offend anyone ?. Who knows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Bad press is scaring them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Folk are looking the wrong way here. Its not Doncaster, Regan, the SPL, the SFL nor the SFA that is attempting to come up with a solution to keep Rangers in Scottish football. Its Celtic. Celtic are the driving force. Fans need to wake up and realise that Celtic are absolutely desperate to keep the Old Firm alive. Their business model depends on a sectarian rivalry with Rangers. They can't survive as they are in the long term - or even the medium term - without Rangers. Supporters need to keep the pressure on their clubs to ensure that the Old Firm do not win the day here. This nonesense 'solution' that has been leaked today STINKS to high-heaven of Liewell - I reckon a forensic examination of his laptop will find where it was first scripted. He is stuck between a rock and a hard place.........half of the representations he receives are from timaloys saying they won't renew their season tix if zombie-co is allowed to survive in SPL BUT the other 50% are those saying they won't unless they can have their OF bigotfests 4 times a season. It has been of little surprise that the other Big Hoose in the East End of Glasgow (who have a wealth of PR resources) have been strangely silent in terms of press releases whilst diddy SPL Clubs with few resources can manage to consult and convey where they are at each new twist in the saga. Liewell must have sat-up for nights on end wondering how he can appease the 2 sides of his supporter crew. This fudge which would mean only 1 year missing the other half of the dastardly duo is the best he can invent. GRRRRRR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 That particular assertion is often debunked by your own fans - have there been any half-season book offers recently? I'd reckon the absence of your former business partners would be decreasing demand anyhow If by some miracle one other team pushes Celtic to the wall on the title race till the end of the season then maybe the death of ra gers will mean nowt in the end.Yeh it was always nice to look forward to the OF games but if at least one other team stands up to the challenge we will have a rival again. Who was Third Lanark's rival and did they lose fans as a result ?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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