Caledonian Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 If indeed this scenario turns out in reality to be as described above, then I fail to see how UEFA / FIFA could stand idly by and let it happen. It would be a rigged league, pure and simple. Regan and Doncaster = venal, blinkered fuckwits. And possibly corrupt. League rigging smells heavily of corruption. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 info@uefa.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 What'd he have to say? And as Pressley was stating his objection to the Newco in Div 1 the Scotland Today reporter used phrases like "almost certain to be competing in Div 1" and "rubber stamped as early as the middle of next week" It's becoming more apparent by the hour that while the chairmen of Hibs, Hearts, ICT, Aberdeen, Utd and St Johnstone were be lauded for saying no to Newco in the SPL and as their fans rushed to purchase their ST's, all the time the deal was being done to re-admit them to Div 1. If this is not a done deal then will the same 6 chairmen be so quick to come out and state that they will be voting NO to this new proposal next week. If they remain silent we all know the answer. Similarily Stuart Gilmour was tight lipped today leaving Hampden when he was quick enough to give interviews when he was spitting mad at the Newco going to the Court of Session a few weeks back. Either come out and state NO NOW or hang your heads in shame every last one of you. Anything bar a no to this new proposal and you are con men pure and simple. When will chairmen realise that there is no club without fans. There is almost 100% support for a no to this new proposal from fans of every club yet they appear to be going to arrogantly ignore their own supporters and any crumb of sporting integrity just to protect their own little empires. The worst of all this is that the changes being proposed now can have no appeal at all to a bottom 6 SPL club. Voting for a possible 100% increase in relegation places and to fund TV rights for the Newco in the SFL is hardly a carrot to a bottom 6 club. They could have all the concessions they want if they just showed a little bravery and unity and dropped the short term protectionist attitude. A united front to say no to Div 1 and off to Div 3 would leave the way clear to vote through any raft of changes they wanted on their terms and in their time. FFS be brave, show unity and listen to the most important people in all of this, US, THE FANS. Agreement to this new proposal would be far more suicidal than any drop in funds that Newco FC might cause - it will lose you the life blood of every club in this land. Up to you Mr Chairmen it's your call now - you know how we all feel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'd be more than happy for St.Mirren to leave the SPL and apply to re-join SFL if these corrupt b*****ds get their way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Ever paid hard cash to watch a snuff flic and found out later the 'victim' lived? Well we have now Edited June 28, 2012 by wunfellaff -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I vote for SPL2. Member club(s): Sevco. Then they can get relegated and promoted at the same time while playing with themselves. Ooops...hasn't that already been suggested? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 info@uefa.com already done it, been reported on the beeb that alec fish pus is being kept up to date with developements , could be a time to fire of an email to him??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borys Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) In full: Document sent to SFL clubs to put Rangers into the First Division http://sport.stv.tv/...first-division/ :barf Borys Edited June 28, 2012 by Borys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Should the SFL clubs reject the plans, the SPL will push ahead with plans to form a second tier which would include the newco Rangers. First Division clubs would be invited to join the new division, reducing the numbers in the SFL and cutting off the promotion and relegation link between the two bodies. Now excuse me if i have picked this up wrong,but they are saying that if the SFL dont accept the new proposal they will have a breakaway,and end any chance the teams in the lower end of the league have of ever getting promoted to the higher divisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokcomble Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 If indeed this scenario turns out in reality to be as described above, then I fail to see how UEFA / FIFA could stand idly by and let it happen. It would be a rigged league, pure and simple. Regan and Doncaster = venal, blinkered fuckwits. And possibly corrupt. When you're in a hole, you really should stop digging ? I don't normally swear, but who do these c**** think they are ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I cannot quite believe my eyes. Neither can I. Not just league rigging but threats too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) FFS it's blackmail now. This is just totally disgraceful. Words fail me. Fvcking clowns have killed the game. Edited June 28, 2012 by madmitch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 In full: Document sent to SFL clubs to put Rangers into the First Division http://sport.stv.tv/...first-division/ Who the fcuk wrote this? I demand transparency, a ceiling hook, some chains, a paint brush, 3 starved cocker spaniels and a litre of bisto. FFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wee Scot Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Utter pish. Nuff said! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'd be more than happy for St.Mirren to leave the SPL and apply to re-join SFL if these corrupt b*****ds get their way. Intact all SPL clubs should leave the SPL! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELFASTSAINTEE Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 WE HAVE CONSIDERED FIVE SCENARIOS 1.Rangers stay in SPL 2.Rangers to Third Division 3.Rangers to First Division 4.Rangers to SPL2 5.Rangers terminated or suspended 1. RANGERS STAY IN SPL •Not an option •SPL clubs have indicated no 2. RANGERS TO THIRD DIVISION •Takes approximately £16 million out of the game •Commercial partners walk away and seek compensation •The settlement agreement becomes a major risk •The sporting opportunity is quashed for other clubs 3. RANGERS TO FIRST DIVISION •Reduces SPL income by approximately 30% •Balances short term need for redemption with a least worst case financial scenario •It is financially possible to recover from this scenario 4. RANGERS TO SPL2 •Currently not supported by the SFA •Creates a bigger divide •Leads to some short term commercial losses •A legal challenge could paralyse the game •The overall pot would be much less than anticipated 5. RANGERS TERMINATED OR SUSPENDED •Complete financial meltdown •Settlement agreement is obliterated •Fans are lost to the game forever •The game survives but where? WE HAVE CONSIDERED THE FIVE SCENARIOS 1 Rangers stay in SPL 2 Rangers to Third Division 3 Rangers to First Division 4 Rangers to SPL2 5 Rangers terminated or suspended **SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER? ** •Rangers in the IRN-BRU First Division this coming season •A one off fee to buy out the Rangers media value. (£1million) thus protecting the current contracts in place. IF WE AGREE THEN WE REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING •Play-Offs immediately, based on current format •A new distribution model with the settlement agreement value protected and future proofed •An amalgamation of the SPL & SFL •A more balanced governance model (as circulated) IF WE AGREE THEN WE REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING •Play-Offs immediately, based on our format •A new distribution model with the settlement agreement value protected and future proofed •An amalgamation of the SPL & SFL •A more balanced governance model (as circulated) WHICH WILL DELIVER BENEFITS TO THE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL LEAGUE •Immediate cash benefit for all 30 clubs! •Gate receipt uplift in Division 1 •Potential hospitality & advertising values increase •Sponsors receive added value through additional exposure •Scottish Government remain committed to our community strategy •SFL has more influence at the top table •Play-Offs restore the sporting meritocracy and deliver additional value AND BENEFITS TO SCOTTISH FOOTBALL •A unified plan presented to the Scottish footballing public which offers real possibilities for the game •Keeps all 42 clubs together avoiding a divisive SPL2 split •Deals with the need for sporting integrity with regard to Newco •Delivers innovation in the form of a single league, Play-Offs and a pyramid plan •Delivers new value for the game •Potentially narrows the financial gap between Scottish Premier League & Scottish League •Shows leadership for the game in Scotland •Allows fans to engage in the bigger picture •A positive media outcome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 So they are tacitly admitting that if newco finishes bottom of sfl two they can't be relegated?? If the finish midtable they get promoted anyway?? Where are the accounts to prove that club's need them? Don't see uefa or fifa intervening but if one club goes to cas ......then I think they may have a case to block this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Who is responsible for this document? I want to cut their fcuking balls off!!! AND BENEFITS TO SCOTTISH FOOTBALL •A unified plan presented to the Scottish footballing public which offers real possibilities for the game kills the game more like •Keeps all 42 clubs together avoiding a divisive SPL2 split pure blackmail •Deals with the need for sporting integrity with regard to Newco er, no it doesn't, it takes integrity and shits on it •Delivers innovation in the form of a single league, Play-Offs and a pyramid plan why do newco's situation prevent this happening anyway? •Delivers new value for the game new value? gibberish spin from amateurs •Potentially narrows the financial gap between Scottish Premier League & Scottish League again, why do newco need to be involved to change the game? •Shows leadership for the game in Scotland corrupt leadership - thats handy! •Allows fans to engage in the bigger picture whoever reckons this will appease fans is a moron. you'll never see this fan at a game again •A positive media outcome whhaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttt???!?!!?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Fat Sally saying he doesn't blame players for not transferring over to newco. Sally understands You obviously didn't read the article. Fat Sally wasn't even quoted in it. It's a jounalist's viewpoint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublinarab Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I won't freak out just yet. There is a lot of anonymous sources going on. Smokescreen for sevcos plight? Well done Aberdeen on clarification. If ST does not do same and has been part of this I will feel cheated for the financial contribution I ve made since last week. However there is an element of misreporting going on, so I won't lose hope yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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