Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) I don't get the problem here, if rangers are found guilty of illegal use of EBT's, that means title stripping, suck it up. There's all sort of problems here. Not least the SFL refusing to participate in punishments being offered before establishment of guilt. The league cups aren't on the table as a punishment, but the league titles are. Why would that be - we'll see in court soon enough. And how can we forget the 'independent' lawyer who screamed his frustration to Green over his refusal to bow to the attempted blackmail. Witnessed, noted and soon to made public. More corrupt SPL/SFA activity to be revealed. These leaks aren't going to stop Edited September 22, 2012 by Bendarroch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 How many of the Goon Brigade did Lawwell ban? Remember he told the world they would hunt down those responsible and ban them...They didn't have to hunt them down as they went into Parkhead on their own accord and had a nice wee meeting with Lawwell and were promised celtic would never again put a poppy on their tops. The Green Brigade had a thread running into 100s of pages on this very subject...Funny it was never reported in the media Goon brigade and hate are very welcome at darkhead. Part of the clubs DNA after all. Poppy sellers? Not so much... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 .Just want to point and laugh is that asking too much? No, it's not. Thing is, some want to point and laugh right back. A right to reply if you prefer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I don't get the problem here, if rangers are found guilty of illegal use of EBT's, that means title stripping, suck it up. Not when you have an SPL that had a pre-ordained punishment on the club to strip 5 titles and 4 Scottish Cups as a condition of acceptance to the first division without first hearing the findings of an independent panel to ascertain guilt or innocence on the whole situation. That comes across as a finding of guilt before trial,something that is fundamentally against the principles of law. It seems that the SPL have shown a biased attitude by trying to impose punishment against the club before hearing any defence from the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The 2 bennies and, WKR and Dhenbhoy et al are killing this thread. Shut the fech up. Used to enjoy this thread. .Just want to point and laugh is that asking too much? There is already a point and laugh thread and a Two Cheeks thread. This thread has become just like them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Not when you have an SPL that had a pre-ordained punishment on the club to strip 5 titles and 4 Scottish Cups as a condition of acceptance to the first division without first hearing the findings of an independent panel to ascertain guilt or innocence on the whole situation. That comes across as a finding of guilt before trial,something that is fundamentally against the principles of law. It seems that the SPL have shown a biased attitude by trying to impose punishment against the club before hearing any defence from the club. You're wasting your time Youngsy. They see what they want to see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I doubt that this will make me popular but then I'm here to post my views rather than be popular. This thread used to be excellent. It had wit, wisdom and insight. Guys posted funny, knowledgeable and acerbic comments here. Not always enjoyable to read for me as a Rangers' fan but I respected the intelligence of the posters. Had there been some sort of Oscars for football forums then this thread would have won it hands down. However, it has become tired, sad, predictable and prosaic this past couple of months. Bendarroch - Joined 4th August Tedi - Joined 27th July. Nuff said I think. BTW my phone autocorrect suggested "tedium" when I typed "Tedi". It might have been right..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Not when you have an SPL that had a pre-ordained punishment on the club to strip 5 titles and 4 Scottish Cups as a condition of acceptance to the first division without first hearing the findings of an independent panel to ascertain guilt or innocence on the whole situation. That comes across as a finding of guilt before trial,something that is fundamentally against the principles of law. It seems that the SPL have shown a biased attitude by trying to impose punishment against the club before hearing any defence from the club. If the SFA are the appeals board for title stripping, how can there be a fair appeal when we now know the SFA wanted to strip titles before guilt had been established? It's impossible. And they know it. More leaks to come. And at least one court case to follow. How many of the corrupt cabal running Scottish football will fall? Sporting integrity demands better than this Edited September 22, 2012 by Bendarroch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Bendarroch - Joined 4th August Tedi - Joined 27th July. Nuff said I think. Aw, petal, did those nasty Rangers supporters start answering back? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Apparently they can't make them at Dens Park any more either. Only at Sevconians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 How many of the corrupt cabal running Scottish football will fall? Sporting integrity demands better than this Full list of corrupt institutions destroyed by their own fraud thus far: 1) Rangers FC and 2) That's it. I'll put a tenner on that list remaining unchanged for three years, with only one exception - I fully expect The Rangers 2012 to be on it by 2014 at the latest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/leaguedivision3/4551484/We-see-secret-document-that-says-Hampden-beaks-wanted-Gers-stripped-of-9-trophies.html *Paraphrasing* Listen up cheats here's a really, really good deal: We know you're guilty as sin, you know you're gulity as sin. Rather than continue the car-crash why don't you accept the fact that you're cheats and we can all move on and go back to playing sport? We'll even go as far as giving your new zombie club a leg up, over and above what you deserve and at worst place you in professional football, when of course you, as a totally new club, should be playing on blaze pitches against welders and the students union 1st XI. No? Well f**k you then. We'll spend a whole lot of time and effort assembling evidence and bring in top impartial legal types. They will, after a totally unnescessary waste of time, money and effort find you guilty as we all know you are. Then they'll nail you to a wall. Happy now? And another thing. Sorting out what punishements to crucify these b*****ds with ahead of time does not mean your guilt in terms of process is a fait a compli. It is simply prudent to get the firing squad lined up and loaded just in case they are found guilty. Or though they will be, because they are and the entire universe know it, even you zombie sevconians, yes you, admit it go on. It would also seem prudent to establish what the zombies will get ahead of time after the last clusterfuck when they tried to be nice to them and as a thank you the farkin cheats took the whole stramash to court. I cannot wait for the next few weeks compulsive viewing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 And how can we forget the 'independent' lawyer who screamed his frustration to Green over his refusal to bow to the attempted blackmail. Witnessed, noted and soon to made public. No matter how many times you and your Sevco friends keep saying this, doesn't mean it's true, without proof it's just another myth. Along with how the media and especially the BBC are running a hate campaign against Rangers If you want to have a discussion, fine but try as sick to the facts and not coming out with the Vanguard Bears propaganda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Only at Sevconians. And there was me thinking it was Celtic players subjected to racist attacks at Dens Park. Momo Sylla and Bobo Balde to be specific given the details of charges from the court. Edited September 22, 2012 by Bendarroch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 And there was me thinking it was Celtic players subjected to racist attacks at Dens Park. Momo Sylla and Bobo Balde to be specific given the details of charges from the court. Aye, one geezer banned for life and you actually think you made a point. Sad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 You're wasting your time Youngsy. They see what they want to see I know,8. It's saying something when an eminent law lord and two eminent QCs are stating the status of a club and company as a club continuance and the company as owners/operators but still they will argue differently,despite one of the QCs being an expert on sports and company law. You're bang on, they see what they want to see,they are behind this panel for a finding of guilt,they'll accept that without a problem as long as it goes the way they want it but will argue against the panel about the club continuance. Hypocrisy in it's highest form. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 No matter how many times you and your Sevco friends keep saying this, doesn't mean it's true, without proof it's just another myth. A few days ago we were being told the pre-ordained punishments were a myth So much so that Green is on another trumped up disrepute charge for daring to speak the truth. More leaks to follow The Rangers will see the corrupt cabal in court. Pleasing - I believe that's the P&B phrase of choice. Ultimately, if they do allow the plastics to take a few titles they did not win - we'll just have to win them back. And we will, nothing surer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The Rangers will see the corrupt cabal in court. Then "The Rangers" will be out on their arse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Aye, one geezer banned for life and you actually think you made a point. Sad. Of course. Dens Park racism is better because it's (inevitably) on a smaller scale due to your stadium being largely void of supporters. I didn't know the ANL were only interested in rejecting racism on a scaleable basis. Every day is a school day right enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Then "The Rangers" will be out on their arse. We were told that in the summer when we went to court. And you're the guy that tells us racism doesn't matter if it's on a small scale. Not your best day is it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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