bennett Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The PM gangs ganging up on Tedi again and they're still making an arse of it lol... -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 It is relevant because that was the answer UEFA gave, ignore it if you want, no biggie really. That's kind of my point. It is no biggie. It is not relevant to the current discussion. The way you say "because that was the answer UEFA gave", makes it sound like this is them talking about old club/new club when it's nothing of the sort. More than a little dishonest that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The PM gangs ganging up on Tedi again and they're still making an arse of it lol... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No fukin words. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No fukin words. One word - PUB. Go on, Don, you've earned a couple of cold ones with today's attempted remedial lesson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No fukin words. Love is blind they say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 That's kind of my point. It is no biggie. It is not relevant to the current discussion. The way you say "because that was the answer UEFA gave", makes it sound like this is them talking about old club/new club when it's nothing of the sort. More than a little dishonest that. Exactly, it is a direct quote of one of their rules which sets out a list of criteria that all clubs must meet, in order to gain UEFA licence. It is not an opinion. As the rule was quoted in answer to a question as to whether The Rangers would be eligible for said licence, it has to be concluded that the club failed to meet part or all of the required criteria. Tedi has decided that it is the part that mentions 'change of legal form', this is incorrect. Clubs change legal form often but it does not prevent them participating in UEFA comp. The 3x year rule is the correct answer and it has fk all to do with being late with the accounts. Now pub. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 One word - PUB. Go on, Don, you've earned a couple of cold ones with today's attempted remedial lesson. Jacket is on. Take over, be my guest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The PM gangs ganging up on Tedi again and they're still making an arse of it lol...Presumably English is not your native tongue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Of course it is relevant, ASA asked for UEFA`s opinion or Rangers claiming continuity and that was the answer they gave, the fact you want to pretend it is irrelevant is no biggie it is exactly what I would expect. This is a response to whether or not sevco are allowed to play in Europe. Why are you resorting to telling lies? Poor show Tedi. Poor show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Of course it is relevant, ASA asked for UEFA`s opinion or Rangers claiming continuity and that was the answer they gave, the fact you want to pretend it is irrelevant is no biggie it is exactly what I would expect. Tedi, dear Leader, forget the ASA. Read the email from UEFA. The one in response to STV, not the ASA. The one which clearly states reasons why ANY club could be excluded from eligibility for UEFA competitions. We don't want you getting accused of deflection or attempting to muddy the waters here, do we now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 From the ECA .... Rangers do not hold a UEFA club licence as a result of a break in their accounts and, having lost their top-flight status, are no longer ordinary members of the ECA, the organisation confirmed. (Thats no licence because of a break in accounts ..not because they weren't filed in time but because they had none) "Alike at Scottish FA level, this 'new entity' had to re-apply for membership with ECA as according to Swiss law, membership of an association is neither heritable nor transferable (article 70.3 of the Swiss Civil Code). (Re apply- not heritable nor transferable) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 How can I? How can you?, we always have to remember the toils of the 78 who would not let it go and the 82 who could not let it go. Shields up. Waters muddied. Looks like the Don has the right idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 New Rangers owner Charles Green admits he is 'not confident' of achieving a company voluntary agreement (CVA) that would preserve the history of the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hello..... I hope that the creditors vote for the CVA route and that it's a success,that way the club will stay as it is in name and history. . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Rangers failed to achieve a CVA and are being liquidated. The current club which was formed by Charles Green's Sevco played their first ever game against Brechin City in the Ramsden's Cup. No amount of angels dancing on the head of a pin will alter those facts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Yep, the old Rangers cheated and then they died. Very simple stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is actually quite important. The SFA, as the governing body, have ameneded their rules to provide a way for clubs' companies (pay attention to the grammar there) to actually avoid being prosecuted for precisely this offence. It has taken the most extravagant implosion of one of their main marketing tools (RFC) to make them realise this. As such they deemed it necessary to provide this fudged method of continuity to allow them (the SFA) to be able to market the bigot twins as an historical continuance if and when they get back together. They will say, and in fact do, anything to perpetuate the hate-fest as they see it as their preferred marketing product. Can they convince the rest of Scottish Football that this is so....? Can they f**k...... If not the spelling 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 anyone got 1.1m? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-27069770 B -b -b -b -b -but whit aboot his "wealth-off-the-radar" ? Shoorely the odd million is sweetie money to Wee Craigy ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) This again? It's straightforward, surely - in the sense that they play in blue at Ibrox in front of the same fans, Rangers are still "the same club". In the sense that the old club overspent far beyond its means and died as a result, and some roaster bought the stadium, its contents and some of the players, they're an entirely new enterprise. For footballing shorthand, NewCo Rangers are "Rangers". In any other sense, they're a new team, just as new Airdrieonians are not old Airdrieonians. This issue isn't in dispute, by the way - it's merely denied by the fans of one team, which isn't the same thing. If a tenth of the population decided tomorrow that the world is flat, there wouldn't be a dispute over the flatness of the world - the world would remain as round as it's ever been. It's just that there'd be a mob of nutters claiming otherwise, which would be a total irrelevance to the world's actual shape. Edited April 17, 2014 by flyingrodent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 flyingrodent, on 17 Apr 2014 - 18:43, said: Rangers are still "the same club". Excellent, one less to convert. Ironically, this bit of grab-the-bits-you-like comedy is pretty much the "Rangers Live!" argument, in microcosm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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