hellbhoy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 They just have the holding company and ltd company/club to make asset stripping quick and convenient in the event of a pre-pack CVA ensuring the spivs are the major creditors and any IPO funds are creamed off ... enabling them to sell the 'club' to any interested buyers including the fans .. I don't think it runs any deeper than that ... the company in liquidation is no longer a block to any naming convention as it's now called Rangers 2012 or something like that ... But on a bright note for the bears ... Phil was wrong about the share issue ... Tedi is cock-a-hoop as it was a resounding success by failing to make the full 4 million with the spivs stumping up a large portion to make the 75% cutoff ..... Imagine Phil under estimating the determination of the spivs to keep the banger bus on the road .... :lol: You don't think it runs deeper than that ?, you underestimate the spivs Dhenny. These crooks will have all sorts of mechanisms to fleece the fans and shaft them in the event they run the Ltd club into the ground. The clubs a clusterfuck of biblical proportions at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wrong choice of words, the fleece factor definitely runs deep ... just think the naming convention is bollix Then why didn't the spivs just rename the holding company to "Rangers Football Club PLC" ?, seeing as there is a notable difference between the entities according to corporate law, one is a Ltd company and the other is a PLC company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Because they wanted to use International in the name to promote 'global brand' image during the IPO to ill informed investors outwith Scotland ... plain and simple ... The name is not in use by any company at present ... as far as I am aware .. 1. The liquidated club is Rangers 2012 or some such ... 2. The current ltd club is TRFC .. 3. The holding company is RIFC There is no bar calling the holding company RFC PLC as far I can tell ... they simply chose not to do so for the reason I have stated. You been sniffing the communion wine again? (Disclaimer: No offence intended to Catholics by that last remark, not that they are sensitive fannies like the currants) Pheonix................. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Because they wanted to use International in the name to promote 'global brand' image during the IPO to ill informed investors outwith Scotland ... plain and simple ... The name is not in use by any company at present ... as far as I am aware .. 1. The liquidated club is Rangers 2012 or some such ... 2. The current ltd club is TRFC .. 3. The holding company is RIFC There is no bar calling the holding company RFC PLC as far I can tell ... they simply chose not to do so for the reason I have stated. You been sniffing the communion wine again? (Disclaimer: No offence intended to Catholics by that last remark, not that they are sensitive fannies like the currants) Chucky bought the name "Rangers Football Club" (the trading image) from the administrators what he couldn't inherit is the company status of the old club "PLC", the oldco was renamed to RFC 2012 PLC to allow Chucky to rename his company Sevco Scotland to "Rangers Football Club Ltd". What Chucky has been not allowed to use is the PLC status name of the club that went into liquidation and the name and company status of the oldco are listed in companies house as previous names used by the club ie "Rangers Football Club PLC". Once the old club has been fully dissolved then the club can apply to companies house to become a PLC because they have systems in place that flag up companies of similar name and the old club is still being wound up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 My mistake then ... I assumed when he renamed it the company name was freed up also ... explains TRFC then. Zombie phoenix clubs with holding companies .... confusing. Anyhoo .. still think you've been on the communion wine ya bassa .. confess ... it's good for the soul .... :lol: We don't use wine at our church unfortunately and the fecking kosher grape juice replacement is crap, I quoted to the pastor even Jesus would spit this mush out and would ask for some alcohol as the Jews in Israel in the time of Jesus only drank very weak wine because the water was usually polluted and wine was healthier. Anyhoo Stella's are cooling down in the fridge and the wife says she's gettin ta hell ootta dodge,fcuk knows why ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The QC and that other twat, self appointed experts on Rangers, financial matters and company laws. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The QC and that other twat, self appointed experts on Rangers, financial matters and company laws. and wine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Are Fraser Aird's comments on immigration and the vote a reflection on Rangers and views of people who choose to associate themselves with that club? http://www.scotzine.com/2014/09/rangers-youngster-fraser-aird-posts-anti-immigrant-indyref-comment/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Are Fraser Aird's comments on immigration and the vote a reflection on Rangers and views of people who choose to associate themselves with that club? http://www.scotzine.com/2014/09/rangers-youngster-fraser-aird-posts-anti-immigrant-indyref-comment/ Oh look a Rangers player wrote something about Politics. Really who cares what Fraser Aird thinks? Nothing controversial in those comments at all and even less truth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Oh look a Rangers player wrote something about Politics. Really who cares what Fraser Aird thinks? Nothing controversial in those comments at all and even less truth. Sweep sweep nothing to see here. How can you defend that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sweep sweep nothing to see here. How can you defend that? Defend what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 What an absolutely daft assumption, this is simply an individual expressing an individual opinion, I also think he has a point, there are many people in this debate that do not have a clue. I watched a programme on the BBC news channel called Mibbes Aye / Mibbes Naw (i think) and the lad from Dennistoun has changed from a No to Yes as he reckons the party if the Yes Campaign win will be better The Girl from Parkhead has changed to Yes as well as she has read up on it all and wants to keep free prescription and free University places...That's great but these are already decided by the Scottish Government!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It is a tad hypocritical for Aird to attack immigrants for having a vote in the Scottish independence referendum, when Aird himself is an immigrant – born in Toronto, Canada. More than 4.2 million out of the 5.295 million Scottish populace have registered to vote in the independence referendum, making it the largest electorate ever in Scotland. Numbers that certainly make Aird’s comments look ridiculous and ill-informed also. The 19-year-old had represented Scotland at youth level, but changed allegiances to represent Canada at international level. The midfielder has played 58 times for Rangers scoring ten goals. That two-faced b*****d and numpty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It is a tad hypocritical for Aird to attack immigrants for having a vote in the Scottish independence referendum, when Aird himself is an immigrant – born in Toronto, Canada. That two-faced b*****d and numpty. Exactly and is why they should not be taken seriously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Oh look a Rangers player wrote something about Politics. Really who cares what Fraser Aird thinks? Nothing controversial in those comments at all and even less truth. Sweep sweep. That's nothing to do with politics. He's displaying a bigoted and narrow minded atitiude. Blaming immigrants for a Yes vote, Aye? Absolute cretin, no wonder he's voting No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sweep sweep. That's nothing to do with politics. He's displaying a bigoted and narrow minded atitiude. Blaming immigrants for a Yes vote, Aye? Absolute cretin, no wonder he's voting No. He is a fucking immigrant himself ... It is unbelievable how people will go out their way to be offended. The guy is a numpty and shouldn't have said anything on the subject but i am not going to get upset about it. In the same way i am not going to get upset at some Gay Hairdresser from Dennistoun voting Yes just so he can go to a better party. Everybody is entitled to vote whatever way they want 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sweep sweep. That's nothing to do with politics. He's displaying a bigoted and narrow minded atitiude. Blaming immigrants for a Yes vote, Aye? Absolute cretin, no wonder he's voting No. He's putting across his opinion and tbh as a Scot living in England who hasn't got a vote in this i have to say there is a valid point that Scots born people living in other parts of the UK are being denied the chance to have a say in the future of their country,whether they still reside there or not. We have East Europeans who are living in Scotland that have no links whatsoever to the country and in all likelihood will return to their home country at some point in time and yet they will have a vote to determine the future of a country that they have no emotional or family ties to in any way. That is fundamentally wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm not upset about it, he's obviously a complete cretin as I said. Voting Yes for a better party is mind numbingly stupid, but it's not the same as the bigoted and pejorative comments Aird has made about immigrants. Bearing in mind these views are no doubt popular with the bigoted section of the Rangers support. He obviously doesn't consider himself an immigrant, maybe he's just talking about the Polish immigrants or the brown immigrants. Fuckwit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) He's putting across his opinion and tbh as a Scot living in England who hasn't got a vote in this i have to say there is a valid point that Scots born people living in other parts of the UK are being denied the chance to have a say in the future of their country,whether they still reside there or not. We have East Europeans who are living in Scotland that have no links whatsoever to the country and in all likelihood will return to their home country at some point in time and yet they will have a vote to determine the future of a country that they have no emotional or family ties to in any way. That is fundamentally wrong.Deary me, people living here and paying their taxes have no right to vote on the future of this country? Should we devise a test for the immigrants to see if they can vote? That's almost as bad as saying half those voting no are stupid immigrants who just arrived yesterday don't have a clue what they're on about. Frightening stuff. That's not what he said though Youngsy, I sympathiser with the Scottish diaspora being voteless for this referendum but his point was unconnected to that. There is something wrong with expressing an opinion if it's as ridiculous and borderline rascist like this is. I imagine at most normal clubs he would be pulled up for these comments and attempts would be made to educate him. Doubt it'll be happening here though. Edited September 14, 2014 by AberdeenBud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Rangers fans and players being xenophobic.. Never though i'd see the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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